Solution to lobby dodging

HeroLives

Make it where the killer can’t see who the survivors are either. Seems fair, and a lot less likely to disconnect in match and than reset a lobby. Double blind that #########. 

Or you know make it so survivors can see which killer we are playing against so we can make our builds accordingly as well. Which also seems fair. I’m just saying if they can bring a mori Bc they see toolboxes and medkits or equip franklins Bc of it. I’d like to know if I’m going against a doctor so I can bring calm spirit yo!

se05239

What's up with people complaining about lobby dodging when there's 2+ survivors DC'ing every damn game?

HeroLives

se05239 said:

What's up with people complaining about lobby dodging when there's 2+ survivors DC'ing every damn game?

As a survivor I also dislike those dcing bastards. It doesn’t help me any. Killers dc too in match it isn’t one sided. Also Bc lobby dodging is a huge issue. 

Chaotic_Riddle

Being able to see the Killer would make it hell on the Killer. Players would just bring an anti-doctor build or an anti-Trapper build with Small Game and generally make underpowered Killers even more useless. It’s a matter of what you think is important to bring at all times, not what you need for just one game and then swap your perks the next and so forth. While Killers get an advantage being able to see the Survivors, they don’t know what they’re really bringing...With how many different variants of items there are for Survivors to use, Killers can easily mind-game themselves before a match by trying to figure out what a Survivor is bringing just by how they look and what is in their hands. It wouldn’t be fair to bring a key and not have the Killer know there’s a chance that 1 to 3, depending on how many gens are done and who is still alive, could easily just escape after gen rushing. You just need to generally go along with what you’re given, not what is known.

Master

@HeroLives said:
Make it where the killer can’t see who the survivors are either. Seems fair, and a lot less likely to disconnect in match and than reset a lobby. Double blind that #########. 

Or you know make it so survivors can see which killer we are playing against so we can make our builds accordingly as well. Which also seems fair. I’m just saying if they can bring a mori Bc they see toolboxes and medkits or equip franklins Bc of it. I’d like to know if I’m going against a doctor so I can bring calm spirit yo!

So that the killer DCs ingame then?
Well if you prefer that......

HeroLives

Chaotic_Riddle said:

Being able to see the Killer would make it hell on the Killer. Players would just bring an anti-doctor build or an anti-Trapper build with Small Game and generally make underpowered Killers even more useless. It’s a matter of what you think is important to bring at all times, not what you need for just one game and then swap your perks the next and so forth. While Killers get an advantage being able to see the Survivors, they don’t know what they’re really bringing...With how many different variants of items there are for Survivors to use, Killers can easily mind-game themselves before a match by trying to figure out what a Survivor is bringing just by how they look and what is in their hands. It wouldn’t be fair to bring a key and not have the Killer know there’s a chance that 1 to 3, depending on how many gens are done and who is still alive, could easily just escape after gen rushing. You just need to generally go along with what you’re given, not what is known.

Like I said they can also make it where the killer can’t see us. They can change their build accordingly but I can’t? Okay not fair. Fair is fair is fair. I’m okay with either or. Do you think bringing a mori Bc you see a bunch of medkits, toolboxes etc is the ability to last minute in Franklins is fair? We get in there not knowing who the killer is or what they brought. We don’t have the option to lobby dodge for an easy game but killers do Bc they can opt out if they don’t like what they see. Is that fair? Is that balanced. I can argue balance for survivors like you can killer.

HeroLives

Master said:

@HeroLives said:
Make it where the killer can’t see who the survivors are either. Seems fair, and a lot less likely to disconnect in match and than reset a lobby. Double blind that #########. 

Or you know make it so survivors can see which killer we are playing against so we can make our builds accordingly as well. Which also seems fair. I’m just saying if they can bring a mori Bc they see toolboxes and medkits or equip franklins Bc of it. I’d like to know if I’m going against a doctor so I can bring calm spirit yo!

So that the killer DCs ingame then?
Well if you prefer that......

I don’t prefer any dcing but if you want to take your depip go ahead Bc that’s the way it is for survivors now.

HeroLives

HeroLives said:

Master said:

@HeroLives said:
Make it where the killer can’t see who the survivors are either. Seems fair, and a lot less likely to disconnect in match and than reset a lobby. Double blind that #########. 

Or you know make it so survivors can see which killer we are playing against so we can make our builds accordingly as well. Which also seems fair. I’m just saying if they can bring a mori Bc they see toolboxes and medkits or equip franklins Bc of it. I’d like to know if I’m going against a doctor so I can bring calm spirit yo!

So that the killer DCs ingame then?
Well if you prefer that......

I don’t prefer any dcing but if you want to take your depip go ahead Bc that’s the way it is for survivors now.

Oh and killers dc at end game anyways if they did poorly . What’s the difference?

PiiFree

I see a lot more Survivors doding lobbies than Killers.
I also see a lot more Survivors disconnecting than Killers.

HeroLives

PiiFree said:

I see a lot more Survivors doding lobbies than Killers.
I also see a lot more Survivors disconnecting than Killers.

The only reason a survivor lobby dodges is Bc we can see how ######### your ping is bruh. Lie to someone else 

Delfador

@HeroLives said:

The only reason a survivor lobby dodges is Bc we can see how ######### your ping is bruh. Lie to someone else 

There is a thing called MLGA unless they removed it?

HeroLives

HeroLives said:

PiiFree said:

I see a lot more Survivors doding lobbies than Killers.
I also see a lot more Survivors disconnecting than Killers.

The only reason a survivor lobby dodges is Bc we can see how ######### your ping is bruh. Lie to someone else 

Also idk why a killer would be upset about in game survivor dc it just makes the match easier which is exactly my thought when I play killer. It hurts the remaining survivors more. So again lie to someone else.

HeroLives

Delfador said:

@HeroLives said:

The only reason a survivor lobby dodges is Bc we can see how ######### your ping is bruh. Lie to someone else 

There is a thing called MLGA unless they removed it?

What’s MLGA? Is that third party software?

Eveline

They should remove all items for survivors except the event ones and remove some killer add ons too.

HeroLives

Eveline said:

They should remove all items for survivors except the event ones and remove some killer add ons too.

I disagree that sounds like a fun sucking thing to do, but I respect your opinion. 

Tucking_Friggered

@HeroLives said:
Chaotic_Riddle said:

Being able to see the Killer would make it hell on the Killer. Players would just bring an anti-doctor build or an anti-Trapper build with Small Game and generally make underpowered Killers even more useless. It’s a matter of what you think is important to bring at all times, not what you need for just one game and then swap your perks the next and so forth. While Killers get an advantage being able to see the Survivors, they don’t know what they’re really bringing...With how many different variants of items there are for Survivors to use, Killers can easily mind-game themselves before a match by trying to figure out what a Survivor is bringing just by how they look and what is in their hands. It wouldn’t be fair to bring a key and not have the Killer know there’s a chance that 1 to 3, depending on how many gens are done and who is still alive, could easily just escape after gen rushing. You just need to generally go along with what you’re given, not what is known.

Like I said they can also make it where the killer can’t see us. They can change their build accordingly but I can’t? Okay not fair. Fair is fair is fair. I’m okay with either or. Do you think bringing a mori Bc you see a bunch of medkits, toolboxes etc is the ability to last minute in Franklins is fair? We get in there not knowing who the killer is or what they brought. We don’t have the option to lobby dodge for an easy game but killers do Bc they can opt out if they don’t like what they see. Is that fair? Is that balanced. I can argue balance for survivors like you can killer.

Life isn't fair. I'd address the rest but its pointless and the topic has been rehashed to death.

Chaotic_Riddle

HeroLives said:

Chaotic_Riddle said:

Being able to see the Killer would make it hell on the Killer. Players would just bring an anti-doctor build or an anti-Trapper build with Small Game and generally make underpowered Killers even more useless. It’s a matter of what you think is important to bring at all times, not what you need for just one game and then swap your perks the next and so forth. While Killers get an advantage being able to see the Survivors, they don’t know what they’re really bringing...With how many different variants of items there are for Survivors to use, Killers can easily mind-game themselves before a match by trying to figure out what a Survivor is bringing just by how they look and what is in their hands. It wouldn’t be fair to bring a key and not have the Killer know there’s a chance that 1 to 3, depending on how many gens are done and who is still alive, could easily just escape after gen rushing. You just need to generally go along with what you’re given, not what is known.

Like I said they can also make it where the killer can’t see us. They can change their build accordingly but I can’t? Okay not fair. Fair is fair is fair. I’m okay with either or. Do you think bringing a mori Bc you see a bunch of medkits, toolboxes etc is the ability to last minute in Franklins is fair? We get in there not knowing who the killer is or what they brought. We don’t have the option to lobby dodge for an easy game but killers do Bc they can opt out if they don’t like what they see. Is that fair? Is that balanced. I can argue balance for survivors like you can killer.

I play both survivor and killer, and I prefer survivor. I’ve played this game for two years on both Xbox and PC, and I can assure you, if you’re having games where killers bring Franklins a lot, you’re generally running a toxic build with other Survivors, such as most of you carrying flashlights or toolboxes to genrush. The last time I’ve seen a Franklins was against a Freddy about two weeks ago and that was because I was planning on toying with the Killer all match for ‘get chased for 2 minutes as Feng Min.’ Dropping your items suck, I know, but Killers don’t exactly have a lot to use to their advantage if they’re not playing someone like Hillbilly or Nurse. It’s a matter of thinking. It’s a horror game where Survivors need to complete gens, survive, and escape. If they knew 24/7 what Killer they were going against, it wouldn’t exactly be fun and get stale over time. The mystery of ‘well, I’m worried it’s a Doctor, should I bring Calm Spirit or should I keep using Lithe?’ is a matter of chance. Not only that, but planning ahead of the Killer, who’s main goal is to kill and keep Gens under control could make the game stale and unplayable for them if they have no clue their getting gen rushed planned by a group of 4 SWFs. You need to think about both ends of the balance scale and not outweigh one side because you favor it over the other. 

HeroLives

Tucking_Friggered said:

@HeroLives said:
Chaotic_Riddle said:

Being able to see the Killer would make it hell on the Killer. Players would just bring an anti-doctor build or an anti-Trapper build with Small Game and generally make underpowered Killers even more useless. It’s a matter of what you think is important to bring at all times, not what you need for just one game and then swap your perks the next and so forth. While Killers get an advantage being able to see the Survivors, they don’t know what they’re really bringing...With how many different variants of items there are for Survivors to use, Killers can easily mind-game themselves before a match by trying to figure out what a Survivor is bringing just by how they look and what is in their hands. It wouldn’t be fair to bring a key and not have the Killer know there’s a chance that 1 to 3, depending on how many gens are done and who is still alive, could easily just escape after gen rushing. You just need to generally go along with what you’re given, not what is known.

Like I said they can also make it where the killer can’t see us. They can change their build accordingly but I can’t? Okay not fair. Fair is fair is fair. I’m okay with either or. Do you think bringing a mori Bc you see a bunch of medkits, toolboxes etc is the ability to last minute in Franklins is fair? We get in there not knowing who the killer is or what they brought. We don’t have the option to lobby dodge for an easy game but killers do Bc they can opt out if they don’t like what they see. Is that fair? Is that balanced. I can argue balance for survivors like you can killer.

Life isn't fair. I'd address the rest but its pointless and the topic has been rehashed to death.

Okay so it’s fair to nerf survivors to pacify killers demands and wants, but not survivors? That’s what you’re saying? Okay 👌 

Tucking_Friggered

@HeroLives said:
Tucking_Friggered said:

@HeroLives said:

Chaotic_Riddle said:

Being able to see the Killer would make it hell on the Killer. Players would just bring an anti-doctor build or an anti-Trapper build with Small Game and generally make underpowered Killers even more useless. It’s a matter of what you think is important to bring at all times, not what you need for just one game and then swap your perks the next and so forth. While Killers get an advantage being able to see the Survivors, they don’t know what they’re really bringing...With how many different variants of items there are for Survivors to use, Killers can easily mind-game themselves before a match by trying to figure out what a Survivor is bringing just by how they look and what is in their hands. It wouldn’t be fair to bring a key and not have the Killer know there’s a chance that 1 to 3, depending on how many gens are done and who is still alive, could easily just escape after gen rushing. You just need to generally go along with what you’re given, not what is known.

Like I said they can also make it where the killer can’t see us. They can change their build accordingly but I can’t? Okay not fair. Fair is fair is fair. I’m okay with either or. Do you think bringing a mori Bc you see a bunch of medkits, toolboxes etc is the ability to last minute in Franklins is fair? We get in there not knowing who the killer is or what they brought. We don’t have the option to lobby dodge for an easy game but killers do Bc they can opt out if they don’t like what they see. Is that fair? Is that balanced. I can argue balance for survivors like you can killer.

Life isn't fair. I'd address the rest but its pointless and the topic has been rehashed to death.

Okay so it’s fair to nerf survivors to pacify killers demands and wants, but not survivors? That’s what you’re saying? Okay 👌 

It sure is cupcake. Welcome to the Just Desserts buffet. All you can eat.

Master

@HeroLives said:
Master said:

@HeroLives said:

Make it where the killer can’t see who the survivors are either. Seems fair, and a lot less likely to disconnect in match and than reset a lobby. Double blind that #########. 

Or you know make it so survivors can see which killer we are playing against so we can make our builds accordingly as well. Which also seems fair. I’m just saying if they can bring a mori Bc they see toolboxes and medkits or equip franklins Bc of it. I’d like to know if I’m going against a doctor so I can bring calm spirit yo!

So that the killer DCs ingame then?

Well if you prefer that......

I don’t prefer any dcing but if you want to take your depip go ahead Bc that’s the way it is for survivors now.

You do realize that depiping is actually a good thing in this screwed game?
I try not to DC ingame since I know how annoying it is, but if I am not able to dodge streamers and other toxic survivors in the lobby anymore, then I will do that ingame and gladly accept my "depip punishment"

Master

@Delfador said:

@HeroLives said:

The only reason a survivor lobby dodges is Bc we can see how ######### your ping is bruh. Lie to someone else 

There is a thing called MLGA unless they removed it?

Its bannable now

Tucking_Friggered

@Master said:

@Delfador said:

@HeroLives said:

The only reason a survivor lobby dodges is Bc we can see how ######### your ping is bruh. Lie to someone else 

There is a thing called MLGA unless they removed it?

Its bannable now

When did that change? Last I recall was that is was just not whitelisted. Not that it was bannable.

PiiFree

@HeroLives said:
PiiFree said:
I see a lot more Survivors doding lobbies than Killers.
I also see a lot more Survivors disconnecting than Killers.
The only reason a survivor lobby dodges is Bc we can see how ######### your ping is bruh. Lie to someone else 

Here are a few reasons why Survivors dodge lobbies:

• teammates are in a SWF
• teammates have toxic names
• MLGA blocked the Killer
• Steam blocked a Survivor
• Bad Ping
• Failed to streamsnipe their favourite streamer

And why would I be upset when Survivors DC? I'm looking for challenging matches and not some #########, boring farm matches. If 1-2 Survivors DC you "have to" farm with the other Survivors or they're going to flame the hell outta you. All I want is good, intense and thrilling matches and if Survivors disconnect, they ruin this for me.

HeroLives

Chaotic_Riddle said:

HeroLives said:

Chaotic_Riddle said:

Being able to see the Killer would make it hell on the Killer. Players would just bring an anti-doctor build or an anti-Trapper build with Small Game and generally make underpowered Killers even more useless. It’s a matter of what you think is important to bring at all times, not what you need for just one game and then swap your perks the next and so forth. While Killers get an advantage being able to see the Survivors, they don’t know what they’re really bringing...With how many different variants of items there are for Survivors to use, Killers can easily mind-game themselves before a match by trying to figure out what a Survivor is bringing just by how they look and what is in their hands. It wouldn’t be fair to bring a key and not have the Killer know there’s a chance that 1 to 3, depending on how many gens are done and who is still alive, could easily just escape after gen rushing. You just need to generally go along with what you’re given, not what is known.

Like I said they can also make it where the killer can’t see us. They can change their build accordingly but I can’t? Okay not fair. Fair is fair is fair. I’m okay with either or. Do you think bringing a mori Bc you see a bunch of medkits, toolboxes etc is the ability to last minute in Franklins is fair? We get in there not knowing who the killer is or what they brought. We don’t have the option to lobby dodge for an easy game but killers do Bc they can opt out if they don’t like what they see. Is that fair? Is that balanced. I can argue balance for survivors like you can killer.

I play both survivor and killer, and I prefer survivor. I’ve played this game for two years on both Xbox and PC, and I can assure you, if you’re having games where killers bring Franklins a lot, you’re generally running a toxic build with other Survivors, such as most of you carrying flashlights or toolboxes to genrush. The last time I’ve seen a Franklins was against a Freddy about two weeks ago and that was because I was planning on toying with the Killer all match for ‘get chased for 2 minutes as Feng Min.’ Dropping your items suck, I know, but Killers don’t exactly have a lot to use to their advantage if they’re not playing someone like Hillbilly or Nurse. It’s a matter of thinking. It’s a horror game where Survivors need to complete gens, survive, and escape. If they knew 24/7 what Killer they were going against, it wouldn’t exactly be fun and get stale over time. The mystery of ‘well, I’m worried it’s a Doctor, should I bring Calm Spirit or should I keep using Lithe?’ is a matter of chance. Not only that, but planning ahead of the Killer, who’s main goal is to kill and keep Gens under control could make the game stale and unplayable for them if they have no clue their getting gen rushed planned by a group of 4 SWFs. You need to think about both ends of the balance scale and not outweigh one side because you favor it over the other. 

I’m thinking about the unfair Imbalance it causes now for survivors. Like I said I’m okay with them not being to see us either. I can’t see that the whoever is bringing all these op builds Or try to guess what they might do Bc I know nothing. So if you don’t want us to know, we don’t want you to know either. I am the Lorax I speak for the trees. Fair is fair is fair.

darktrix

@se05239 said:
What's up with people complaining about lobby dodging when there's 2+ survivors DC'ing every damn game?

Cause DCing is the survivor equivalent of dodging.

Tucking_Friggered

@HeroLives said:
PiiFree said:

I see a lot more Survivors doding lobbies than Killers.

I also see a lot more Survivors disconnecting than Killers.

The only reason a survivor lobby dodges is Bc we can see how ######### your ping is bruh. Lie to someone else 

Hey Einstein, the killers the host and their ping is 0. That ping you see is your ping to them.

HeroLives

Tucking_Friggered said:

@HeroLives said:
Tucking_Friggered said:

@HeroLives said:

Chaotic_Riddle said:

Being able to see the Killer would make it hell on the Killer. Players would just bring an anti-doctor build or an anti-Trapper build with Small Game and generally make underpowered Killers even more useless. It’s a matter of what you think is important to bring at all times, not what you need for just one game and then swap your perks the next and so forth. While Killers get an advantage being able to see the Survivors, they don’t know what they’re really bringing...With how many different variants of items there are for Survivors to use, Killers can easily mind-game themselves before a match by trying to figure out what a Survivor is bringing just by how they look and what is in their hands. It wouldn’t be fair to bring a key and not have the Killer know there’s a chance that 1 to 3, depending on how many gens are done and who is still alive, could easily just escape after gen rushing. You just need to generally go along with what you’re given, not what is known.

Like I said they can also make it where the killer can’t see us. They can change their build accordingly but I can’t? Okay not fair. Fair is fair is fair. I’m okay with either or. Do you think bringing a mori Bc you see a bunch of medkits, toolboxes etc is the ability to last minute in Franklins is fair? We get in there not knowing who the killer is or what they brought. We don’t have the option to lobby dodge for an easy game but killers do Bc they can opt out if they don’t like what they see. Is that fair? Is that balanced. I can argue balance for survivors like you can killer.

Life isn't fair. I'd address the rest but its pointless and the topic has been rehashed to death.

Okay so it’s fair to nerf survivors to pacify killers demands and wants, but not survivors? That’s what you’re saying? Okay 👌 

It sure is cupcake. Welcome to the Just Desserts buffet. All you can eat.

Good thing you’re not the boss of the game cupcake, so wipe ya biased ass with that napkin.

PiiFree

@Tucking_Friggered said:
Hey Einstein, the killers the host and their ping is 0. That ping you see is your ping to them.

rekt

HeroLives

Tucking_Friggered said:

@HeroLives said:
PiiFree said:

I see a lot more Survivors doding lobbies than Killers.

I also see a lot more Survivors disconnecting than Killers.

The only reason a survivor lobby dodges is Bc we can see how ######### your ping is bruh. Lie to someone else 

Hey Einstein, the killers the host and their ping is 0. That ping you see is your ping to them.

Okay so you’re saying if the entire team has bad ping all 4 connections are trash, but the host whose connection it goes off of isn’t? Why you lie to people? If you have bad connection I’m going to have bad connection it’s the way it works. 

Paddy4583

Haha if you think survivor DC are bad now wait till they can’t use their DS, it’s gonna be carnage 

HeroLives

Paddy4583 said:

Haha if you think survivor DC are bad now wait till they can’t use their DS, it’s gonna be carnage 

Yeah not excited about it at all. I’m already pissed when they dc Bc it’s a trash move. 

HeroLives

Master said:

@HeroLives said:
Master said:

@HeroLives said:

Make it where the killer can’t see who the survivors are either. Seems fair, and a lot less likely to disconnect in match and than reset a lobby. Double blind that #########. 

Or you know make it so survivors can see which killer we are playing against so we can make our builds accordingly as well. Which also seems fair. I’m just saying if they can bring a mori Bc they see toolboxes and medkits or equip franklins Bc of it. I’d like to know if I’m going against a doctor so I can bring calm spirit yo!

So that the killer DCs ingame then?

Well if you prefer that......

I don’t prefer any dcing but if you want to take your depip go ahead Bc that’s the way it is for survivors now.

You do realize that depiping is actually a good thing in this screwed game?
I try not to DC ingame since I know how annoying it is, but if I am not able to dodge streamers and other toxic survivors in the lobby anymore, then I will do that ingame and gladly accept my "depip punishment

I like to go up against people around my level, I personally don’t like to Depip. I can die 12 times in a row and still pip my ass to the top. I know a lot of people dc Bc well we don’t have the same set of visual ability as killers do in pregame lobby. I bet if survivors could see or not be seen there’d be less lobby dodges. If you depip for easier games you just are a bully in my eyes.

Tucking_Friggered

@HeroLives said:
Tucking_Friggered said:

@HeroLives said:

PiiFree said:

I see a lot more Survivors doding lobbies than Killers.

I also see a lot more Survivors disconnecting than Killers.

The only reason a survivor lobby dodges is Bc we can see how ######### your ping is bruh. Lie to someone else 

Hey Einstein, the killers the host and their ping is 0. That ping you see is your ping to them.

Okay so you’re saying if the entire team has bad ping all 4 connections are trash, but the host whose connection it goes off of isn’t? Why you lie to people? If you have bad connection I’m going to have bad connection it’s the way it works. 

Hey Einstein, the killers the host and their ping is 0. That ping you see is your ping to them.

Master

@Tucking_Friggered said:

@Master said:

@Delfador said:

@HeroLives said:

The only reason a survivor lobby dodges is Bc we can see how ######### your ping is bruh. Lie to someone else 

There is a thing called MLGA unless they removed it?

Its bannable now

When did that change? Last I recall was that is was just not whitelisted. Not that it was bannable.

That has changed about a year ago I think.
Not being whitelisted means that it is bannable.

Master

@Tucking_Friggered said:

@HeroLives said:
PiiFree said:

I see a lot more Survivors doding lobbies than Killers.

I also see a lot more Survivors disconnecting than Killers.

The only reason a survivor lobby dodges is Bc we can see how ######### your ping is bruh. Lie to someone else 

Hey Einstein, the killers the host and their ping is 0. That ping you see is your ping to them.

Hehe, I hope you dont mind if I copy that from time to time

HeroLives

Tucking_Friggered said:

@HeroLives said:
Tucking_Friggered said:

@HeroLives said:

PiiFree said:

I see a lot more Survivors doding lobbies than Killers.

I also see a lot more Survivors disconnecting than Killers.

The only reason a survivor lobby dodges is Bc we can see how ######### your ping is bruh. Lie to someone else 

Hey Einstein, the killers the host and their ping is 0. That ping you see is your ping to them.

Okay so you’re saying if the entire team has bad ping all 4 connections are trash, but the host whose connection it goes off of isn’t? Why you lie to people? If you have bad connection I’m going to have bad connection it’s the way it works. 

Hey Einstein, the killers the host and their ping is 0. That ping you see is your ping to them.

Whatever if “my connection” to “host” is bad why would I enter a match, when I can get one with a stable connection? 

Tucking_Friggered

@HeroLives said:
Tucking_Friggered said:

@HeroLives said:

Tucking_Friggered said:

@HeroLives said:

Chaotic_Riddle said:

Being able to see the Killer would make it hell on the Killer. Players would just bring an anti-doctor build or an anti-Trapper build with Small Game and generally make underpowered Killers even more useless. It’s a matter of what you think is important to bring at all times, not what you need for just one game and then swap your perks the next and so forth. While Killers get an advantage being able to see the Survivors, they don’t know what they’re really bringing...With how many different variants of items there are for Survivors to use, Killers can easily mind-game themselves before a match by trying to figure out what a Survivor is bringing just by how they look and what is in their hands. It wouldn’t be fair to bring a key and not have the Killer know there’s a chance that 1 to 3, depending on how many gens are done and who is still alive, could easily just escape after gen rushing. You just need to generally go along with what you’re given, not what is known.

Like I said they can also make it where the killer can’t see us. They can change their build accordingly but I can’t? Okay not fair. Fair is fair is fair. I’m okay with either or. Do you think bringing a mori Bc you see a bunch of medkits, toolboxes etc is the ability to last minute in Franklins is fair? We get in there not knowing who the killer is or what they brought. We don’t have the option to lobby dodge for an easy game but killers do Bc they can opt out if they don’t like what they see. Is that fair? Is that balanced. I can argue balance for survivors like you can killer.



Life isn't fair. I'd address the rest but its pointless and the topic has been rehashed to death.

Okay so it’s fair to nerf survivors to pacify killers demands and wants, but not survivors? That’s what you’re saying? Okay 👌 

It sure is cupcake. Welcome to the Just Desserts buffet. All you can eat.

Good thing you’re not the boss of the game cupcake, so wipe ya biased ass with that napkin.

And yet you are still eating at Just Desserts buffet. Enjoy your fudgy sundae. Just lick the grit from your teeth and keep on swallowing.

Rebel_Raven

A solution to lobby dodging, a real one, is the hardest one.
Balance the game around SWFs/mid trial chat/coordination.

Maybe make stuff easier for killers to get so we have the tools to battle them, or something. 

HeroLives

@Tucking_Friggered
you obviously just want attention and have no real input, so I’m just going to ignore you from now on. Feel free to keep calling me names though .your hate only makes me stronger, and it’s no sweat off my ass

HeroLives

Rebel_Raven said:

A solution to lobby dodging, a real one, is the hardest one.
Balance the game around SWFs/mid trial chat/coordination.

Maybe make stuff easier for killers to get so we have the tools to battle them, or something. 

Killers on average get a 3-4K per match how much more “balance” do you need? 

PiiFree

@HeroLives said:
Whatever if “my connection” to “host” is bad why would I enter a match, when I can get one with a stable connection? 

So if a Killer dodges a lobby, how do you know it was not because of the bad connection of a Survivor to the Killer?

You enter a Killers lobby, you're one of out of 4 Survivors. Chances are high that at least one of the Survivors has a crappy ping thanks to the ######### matchmaking, so the Killer dodges.

Every Survivor: OMG the Killer dodged because of ME . They're afraid of ME! LOL!

Paddy4583

HeroLives said:

Paddy4583 said:

Haha if you think survivor DC are bad now wait till they can’t use their DS, it’s gonna be carnage 

Yeah not excited about it at all. I’m already pissed when they dc Bc it’s a trash move. 

Yeah it ruins the game, for all players, but thing is the way I see it, killers dodge what they deem as unfun, survivors DC what they seem as unfun, both are just as bad. Dodging is worse though as it causes most of the lobby issues and match making issues

HeroLives

PiiFree said:

@HeroLives said:
Whatever if “my connection” to “host” is bad why would I enter a match, when I can get one with a stable connection? 

So if a Killer dodges a lobby, how do you know it was not because of the bad connection of a Survivor to the Killer?

You enter a Killers lobby, you're one of out of 4 Survivors. Chances are high that at least one of the Survivors has a crappy ping thanks to the ######### matchmaking, so the Killer dodges.

Every Survivor: OMG the Killer dodged because of ME . They're afraid of ME! LOL!

You make a joke out of it but this forum is filled with killers that lobby dodge all the time for a list of reasons that have 0 to do with ping. I get lobby dodged a lot less when I play solo. If I’m in a group a considerable amount. Coincidence? I think not.

Tucking_Friggered

@HeroLives said:
@Tucking_Friggered
you obviously just want attention and have no real input, so I’m just going to ignore you from now on. Feel free to keep calling me names though .your hate only makes me stronger, and it’s no sweat off my ass

I don't need your attention my man. I have enough intellect to make a post and get responses by stimulating people mentally. You on the other hand can't deal with the level of angst I'm creating in you with each post and are now looking for a way out. Walk away with your tail between your legs. You join a ever growing group and won't be lonely.

HeroLives

Paddy4583 said:

HeroLives said:

Paddy4583 said:

Haha if you think survivor DC are bad now wait till they can’t use their DS, it’s gonna be carnage 

Yeah not excited about it at all. I’m already pissed when they dc Bc it’s a trash move. 

Yeah it ruins the game, for all players, but thing is the way I see it, killers dodge what they deem as unfun, survivors DC what they seem as unfun, both are just as bad. Dodging is worse though as it causes most of the lobby issues and match making issues

Which is why it should be double blind or both can see. That way it throws out the likelyhood of dcing in game Bc both go in knowing what they are getting into, or both are completely ignorant to what’s about to go down. Which is balance. 

Rebel_Raven

HeroLives said:

Rebel_Raven said:

A solution to lobby dodging, a real one, is the hardest one.
Balance the game around SWFs/mid trial chat/coordination.

Maybe make stuff easier for killers to get so we have the tools to battle them, or something. 

Killers on average get a 3-4K per match how much more “balance” do you need? 

Well, first off, where do you get that data?
And there are variables to consider. 
Largely what goes into being prepared to fight the SWFs who generally like to abuse match making to fight low rank killers.

I mean if these killers that get 3 to 4 Ks, but they have pages of 3 rank perks, purple moris, and high end addons, it doesn't mean anything to someone who doesn't even have a page of rank 3 perks, no purple moris, and insufficient offerings, both facing the same SWFs.

HeroLives

Tucking_Friggered said:

@HeroLives said:
@Tucking_Friggered
you obviously just want attention and have no real input, so I’m just going to ignore you from now on. Feel free to keep calling me names though .your hate only makes me stronger, and it’s no sweat off my ass

I don't need your attention my man. I have enough intellect to make a post and get responses by stimulating people mentally. You on the other hand can't deal with the level of angst I'm creating in you with each post and are now looking for a way out. Walk away with your tail between your legs. You join a ever growing group and won't be lonely.

It’s not walking away with my tail between my legs.it’s having enough inner peace and respect , than to fill this forum with junk insults back and forth that argue nothing about the game and its mechanics. I’m refusing to engage with you , because you offer nothing but insults and 0 insight. 

PiiFree

@HeroLives said:
You make a joke out of it but this forum is filled with killers that lobby dodge all the time for a list of reasons that have 0 to do with ping. I get lobby dodged a lot less when I play solo. If I’m in a group a considerable amount. Coincidence? I think not.

I hope so.

The SWF issue needs to be fixed, lobby dodging is just the Killers way to adress it. The more Killers dodge, the bigger issue SWF becomes and the devs are sooner or later forced to take actions or the people run away.

Paddy4583

HeroLives said:

Paddy4583 said:

HeroLives said:

Paddy4583 said:

Haha if you think survivor DC are bad now wait till they can’t use their DS, it’s gonna be carnage 

Yeah not excited about it at all. I’m already pissed when they dc Bc it’s a trash move. 

Yeah it ruins the game, for all players, but thing is the way I see it, killers dodge what they deem as unfun, survivors DC what they seem as unfun, both are just as bad. Dodging is worse though as it causes most of the lobby issues and match making issues

Which is why it should be double blind or both can see. That way it throws out the likelyhood of dcing in game Bc both go in knowing what they are getting into, or both are completely ignorant to what’s about to go down. Which is balance. 

I don’t think it’s an issue that can be resolved this way TBH 
in game DCs need to be revoked as an option, Killers shouldn’t see they lobby until they’ve locked in to playing then they have their count down to adjust accordingly.

Once You’ve locked it your all stuck playing. 
Plenty of online games have implimeded, dodging and dc counter measures.

My favourites being lock ins.

But here people will DC and dodge until the end of days 

HeroLives

Rebel_Raven said:

HeroLives said:

Rebel_Raven said:

A solution to lobby dodging, a real one, is the hardest one.
Balance the game around SWFs/mid trial chat/coordination.

Maybe make stuff easier for killers to get so we have the tools to battle them, or something. 

Killers on average get a 3-4K per match how much more “balance” do you need? 

Well, first off, where do you get that data?
And there are variables to consider. 
Largely what goes into being prepared to fight the SWFs who generally like to abuse match making to fight low rank killers.

I mean if these killers that get 3 to 4 Ks, but they have pages of 3 rank perks, purple moris, and high end addons, it doesn't mean anything to someone who doesn't even have a page of rank 3 perks, no purple moris, and insufficient offerings, both facing the same SWFs.

I believe one of the devs said it in a stream recently, or the stats were posted somewhere, hold on I’ll try to find it for you mate! 

CronaWins

@HeroLives said:
Make it where the killer can’t see who the survivors are either. Seems fair, and a lot less likely to disconnect in match and than reset a lobby. Double blind that #########. 

Or you know make it so survivors can see which killer we are playing against so we can make our builds accordingly as well. Which also seems fair. I’m just saying if they can bring a mori Bc they see toolboxes and medkits or equip franklins Bc of it. I’d like to know if I’m going against a doctor so I can bring calm spirit yo!

That's whole point of seeing items, and the reason why survivors can't see killers, is so you can counter play.

The reason they dc is because they don't know how to counter play and want to run the generic build instead.