When is kindred gonna become default?
I remember the devs saying that it could be built in instead of being a perk at some point. It would be nice because having a full lobby with solo people is a mess, and I'm pretty sure no one likes to get to second stage or end up dying on the first hook because people don't know if someone is going for the save or not.
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Limit 1 instance of a perk per SWF group. PROBLEM SOLVED!! SWF should be focused on team builds anyway, so preventing them from running 4 DS/Adren/UB would go quite a long way.
And before you ask NO it would not affect solo. If you play solo you would have no limits. If you play in a group then you need to share perks. Simple.
She could maybe use a very, very small nerf as well
This ^
You don't need perks at all to genrush.
Solo < Killers < SWF < Nurse
Also, what’s the problem with Kindred?
Or do you count pipping as win?
This lol. Just because you left your teammates hig hand dry and you camped the hatch doesn't rly mean much.
Ya... hence why it makes sense to limit those perks for SWF. If they are limited then they can't abuse stacking.
And you can gen rush just fine as solo. It doesn't need buffs, because then it breaks the game like SWF does. Solo should be left as it is, SWF is the problem and needs changing.
Wait you mean people can use a perk that does exactly what its intended to do instead of complaining it needs to be baseline?
MIND BLOWN!
P.S: I'm not making fun of you
just the people that want every possible bit of information spoon fed to them.
You can't change SWF because you have no control on it. Any change on that front is a lost battle. Buffing solo is much more safe. Obviously, after the change, killers should be balanced too, so don't compare to the current "killer vs swf" state. Imagine like if you balance killers only around swf (easier task to do for devs).
So you are getting caught quicker because you run one less perk? Maybe it’s just that you aren’t very good at chases?
tier 2 is good enough, as it shows everyone each other's auras, whereas tier 1 only shows 1 person, and tier 3 shows if the killer is within a certain range of the survivor.
Yes you can change SWF by IMPOSING LIMITS ON THEM! What a concept?
Buffing solo would just unbalance the only balanced part of the game. That is ass-backwards game design. You don't buff the balance part to make it broken, you nerf the broken part to make it balanced. To say they have no control over SWF because comms is honestly quite stupid.
Then you want to buff killers too? So basically do twice the work it would take to simply nerf SWF? Because that makes sense SMH
Ya so why make Kindred base kit? Basically you are making SWF type gen rush the norm at this point. It makes way more sense to limit SWF in some capacity than.
U can't nerf swf, voice communication is the strongest tool they have and devs CAN'T nerf discord. Even if they would nerf SWF so they only can use one perk and start injured, they will still stomp the killer and will be still better than solos with 4 meta perks and fully healed. That's just basic knowledge you get after playing enough.
No what you are asking is that they ruin the part of the game that actually works. SWF can be nerfed by imposing limits. Buffing solo and then buffing killers would just destroy the core experience. Not to mention that no amount of buffing killers would balance them against SWF. It would just make solo need even MORE buffs to compensate, and then it's a never ending series of buff to solo/buff to killer. That's dumb. I can't fathom how you would want to break the actual balanced part of the game just for the sake of SWF. It makes way more sense to nerf SWF in some way, even if it's not perfectly balanced it's better than constantly changing the game.
VOICE COMMUNICATION IS THE STRONGEST TOOL SURVIVORS CAN HAVE!!!
No matter how many limits you put for SWF's, they will be still much much stronger than solo survivors. Either find a way to block voice communication (which will never happen, devs don't have the power and people will always find a way around it) or just accept it if you really want a balanced game. Period.
Exactly so buffing solo won't fix the problem as much as it just breaks the balance that is already there. If you buff solo survivor you have to buff killers. If you buff killers, you have to buff solo survivors AGAIN because SWF is still too good. It creates a runaway power problem until you end up with a game where everything is OP and that's not actually balance believe it or not. If you play an FPS and start everyone with the most absolute powerful weapon in the game (eg. Rocket Launcher in Halo), on paper that's "balanced" but you sacrifice the core design of the game to do it. Playing Halo where everyone has RL is a fun offshoot of the normal game, but it'd be quite awful if that were the normal game. The game just becomes a chaotic mess where skill really doesn't matter. That's what you get by going the route of "buff everything to match SWF". It's an impossible task that ends up ruining the game.
Like, Nurse is the most powerful killer in the game but in some ways she breaks the core design of the game and is therefore OP in a sense. That means if you want to make other killers viable Nurse SHOULD NOT BE THE GOALPOST TO AIM FOR. By doing that you just make every killer ridiculously OP, and then need to buff survivors to compensate. It makes WAY more sense to aim for killers to be somewhere around Billy (or maybe even a bit weaker than Billy) or even nerf the Nurse because you're not getting that runaway power effect. You have a reasonable goal for balance where the game's core design still means something.
No wE nEEd baSELiNE KIndrED
They didn't promise this. It was just a suggestion they had, but I guess they listened to the backlash and didn't add it.
Even though Kindred isn't a "powerful" perk it's still very good and very useful in solo play. I wouldn't want to see Kindred added on default but if Killers would be revealed near hooked Survivors that could be helpful to reduce camping.
Nah all the crybaby killer mains will riot man , the devs can't do that.
I play survivor more and agree you should just run the perk if you want it.