The New Borrowed Time (Deep Wounds) gives me way more incentive to camp/tunnel...

Raccoon

Please note that this is coming from my Killer side.

In the interest of transparency, I will 100% be running this on my Survivor builds.

Since the perk now uses DW, there's literally ZERO reason not to tunnel the person that was unhooked, as the amount of effort in downing the unhooker (if they're healthy) is literally the same, without the potential of the unhooked BT survivor going down for you to search for after you get the unhooker. Plus, they're up a hook state, which instantly makes switching a bad move now.

It also provides extra incentive to camp the BT user out of the game on the first hook, as you'll lose more than two minutes restarting a chase from scratch (thanks to the DW) over multiple unhooking instances.

I could be wrong, but when I'm playing to win, this will be my mindset, most likely.

In a game that's all about time management, this seems like a doozy, haha.

NMCKE

MandyTalk said:

Can you please keep this on topic - categorising a person by their avatar? Really!?

Either discuss this like adults without the insults or passive aggressiveness or you leave me no option but to close the thread.

Let's go MandyTalk, you're the best!

The_Crusader

@Raccoon said:
Master said:

@The_Crusader said:

Oooooof said:

@Wolf74 Well. I think you're stupid. Hit the survivor while his unhooking and then hit him again? It feels so bad for survivors to get tunneled and then go down again. Thats why they are buffing borrow time. Switch the target and you can play as myers, leatherface or hillbilly to instadown the survivor thats unhooking

You're wasting your time. It's pretty obvious these people don't play enough survivor to know how awful it is to be tunneled down the second you're off the hook.

I know it feels bad, but as survivor you have a way out at least. You dont have that as killer unless you DC

Damn Rocky 1 - 4 were amazing.

Balboa as next survivor please.

Clubber Lang as next killer.

"I pity tha fool who hides in my lockers"

Raccoon

@The_Crusader said:

@Raccoon said:
Master said:

@The_Crusader said:

Oooooof said:

@Wolf74 Well. I think you're stupid. Hit the survivor while his unhooking and then hit him again? It feels so bad for survivors to get tunneled and then go down again. Thats why they are buffing borrow time. Switch the target and you can play as myers, leatherface or hillbilly to instadown the survivor thats unhooking

You're wasting your time. It's pretty obvious these people don't play enough survivor to know how awful it is to be tunneled down the second you're off the hook.

I know it feels bad, but as survivor you have a way out at least. You dont have that as killer unless you DC

Damn Rocky 1 - 4 were amazing.

Balboa as next survivor please.

Clubber Lang as next killer.

"I pity tha fool who hides in my lockers"

He'd have a 1-Hit Down, but auto-lose after 10 minutes :P

tt_ivi_99

Tzeentchling9 said:

tt_ivi_99 said:

Raccoon said:

@Khalednazari said:
Raccoon said:

They both take 2 hits to down immediately after unhooking and they're both an equal distance from the killer at the time of unhooking.

I get that. But where's the effort in camping or tunneling? The first hit is basically a free hit. 

Yeah, it's always free, especially if they're in the middle/outer range of your terror radius and rocking DH/SB.

Makes sense ;3

Dude if they are in the middle/outer range of your TR Its your fault. You cant just leave the hook if you know someone is gonna go agressive on unhooking.

Wait, wait, wait. So don't camp to counter BT, but it's the Killer's fault when he doesn't camp? 

This is why no one takes Survivors seriously.

I dont think you get what camping means so let me explain you:

Camping is staying around the same hooked survivor for the entire match, its not the same as going around him a little bit to ensure no one is gonna unhook him as soon as you leave the hook. I've never been called camper for doing that.

purebalance

@Condorloco_26 said:

@purebalance said:

Pallet looping, flashlight saving, hook-diving, bodyblocking, D-striking, gen-rushing, and tunneling aren't even close to the same as camping. Tunneling I'd even omit since it's close to camping in that killers will still chase you even if you're healed just because even if there's an injured person right there.

Well if you don't like those particular actions, don't perform them. Just don't expect anyone else to follow your own rules, when the game itself allows said actions.

Personally, I don't like showing bad manners in any way, not during the match and certainly not after the match. That's why I don't do it. But there are lots of people that like those things. So be it, I can choose to ignore them or block them. Big deal. Most of the times those BM backfire and they just make jackasses of themselves, anyways.

Camping is already frowned upon by the devs so stop saying my own rules.

thesuicidefox

I don't camp hooks and BT rarely ever effects me. If it happens to proc and I hit the guy I usually let them go because they need to heal (even more so now with how Deep Wounds works). The moment I see the timer I usually got the guy that made the save. Why? Well 9 times outta 10 they will let me hit them to take aggro off their friend. Then all I need to do is land 1 more hit on them within 32/40 seconds (if I'm running Sloppy) and the other guy is as good as dead. I'll hook the saver and see the BT guy healing with BBQ. He is almost definitely still injured, and now I can go after him.

But if you just chase down the BT guy what is the saver going to do? Yep, a gen! They don't need to heal or anything, so you are cucking yourself by doing that. It's 1000 times more efficient to go after the saver because the BT guy needs to heal before he does anything. And if he runs to the others for heals even better because now they stop doing gens to heal, and with BBQ I will see all 3 of you and if I get there before you heal now I can really pressure you by injuring more of you.

If you really think tunneling the BT guy is the most efficient way to play it's obvious you never tried to do anything else. If you did you'd immediately see that's the worst decision you could make as killer.

Mister_xD

@Raccoon said:

@Khalednazari said:
How is going for an injured BT survivor is the same effort as going after a healthy unhooker? O.o

They both take 2 hits to down immediately after unhooking and they're both an equal distance from the killer at the time of unhooking.

TBH, the ideal counter-play would probably be to target the BT user (once you know), and just camp them out of the game.

insidious new meta?

Condorloco_26

@purebalance said:

Camping is already frowned upon by the devs so stop saying my own rules.

Are they taking back what they've said before, as in "camping is a strategy too"? And as long as the mechanics of the game allow it, it's game. May not be the best strategy or the most efficient one, but a valid one too, under certain circumstances.

In my opinion, the only real "rules" every player must follow are the ones concerning the bannable offenses. But anyone can choose to think and play however they see fit.