Do BHVR gonna actually change things based on PTB feedback this time?
I'm feeling like they don't, am I wrong?
I'm feeling like they don't, am I wrong?
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They changed Artist in that she can no longer place crows as landmines. That was in the PTB.
Sssshhh.
We don’t acknowledge if they do something like that. The narrative is that the PTB is solely for advertisement and for them to ignore feedback.
though yeah, they also said that they review chapters after some time has passed in live version and people could actually get used to the new stuff. Remember Freddy on release, I think they overnerfed him way too fast after a week based on feedback but turns out he was actually in a better state before. So it is also good that they don’t react to/implement something on every direct feedback and suggestion.
The Devs usually only have a few days after PTB-Launch to work on things. So most of the time PTB-Feedback means that they can start earlier to work on it, which might mean that they can make changes before it goes live or in one of the Hotfixes.
But PTBs are mostly for Hype. And IMO it is impossible to get a real grasp if a Killer is too weak or too strong and to what extend when playing them on the PTB.
If she needed nerfing, sure. However, I have a feeling that is not what needs to be done...
Remember when they released Ghostface and nobody had any faith, then the patch notes released and he'd actually been superbuffed into a spot somewhere decent? Good Times.
Now BHVR are survivor sided , so sadako will get nerfed.
And if Sadako won’t get nerfed? Will you admit you were wrong? 🤔
She’s not going to be nerfed, lol. She’s the weakest killer we’ve had in a while.
She seems to be the second weakest killer in the game. Only Legion is worse
I think I do hope it tbh, because I'm not going to buy her anyway and it's real hilarious when it happens.
PTBs are for advertising and for finding really special interactions, such as lockers countering Victor and "shoot the ground for 200% laceraction Trick blades"
They usually only make a few minor changes.
They just came out with a Boon perk that increases the movement speed of survivors to equal that of base killer speeds. Like how that perk idea even left the board baffles me, is there anyone in office that is designated to go "Yeah no that's a bad idea, and here's the common sense why".
They wouldn't listen to the player base on this stuff before, and are running their game into the ground because of it. I doubt they would start listening now.
...? The boon increases movement speed by 2%, for a total movement speed of 102%. Base killer speed is 115%, or 110% for some.
Right. Now include map layout (windows, tight corners, etc). If you look at "other" forums, you can see people discussing how 2% breaks the game for them, and subtle enough not to get caught.
Oh right. Totally forgot. Survivor skill is based on players that don't take the time to learn the game, while Killer skill is based on Otz. I was speaking like as if we treated everyone to have the same skill level. My apologies, completely forgot.
Nah, dude, you said it "raised survivor speed to equal killer base speed". That is flat out wrong, and a completely different argument to the one you just swapped to.
Now, do I think the boon is OP? Nah. It's strong, and a nice example of how boons can be strong without being completely broken like CoH, but 2% is only an edge, it's not a guaranteed escape. Combined with it being in a range that the killer can turn off, it strikes a nice balance between being useful but also limited.
But if you do think it's too strong, you can convey that without literally lying about it, that's my actual point.
If it takes the Killer and Survivor to get to the same place in the same amount of time, it's just easier to say equal. It's not my fault you didn't understand, or you're just trying to nit pick and trying to make others look bad to push your own biased narrative.
That's a pretty huge "if".
Trickster, Nemesis, Pinhead: all had powers that felt bad to use on the PTB, could easily be outplayed, and were met with numerous complaints and prompts for changes.
None were altered from their PTB incarnation to release. Trickster eventually got buffed. Nemesis is still the same. Pinhead's best addons got nerfed with zero change to his awful active ability.
The Artist was met with overall positive PTB reactions.
Right before release, she was nerfed to prevent idle crows from damaging players.
Will Sadako be changed? Only if it's to slap a nerf on her. Just don't buy the content till she gets fixed.
what kind of argumentation is that?
just admit that your statement was exaggerated and wrong, instead of trying to justify it and talk the person down.
you can say the perk is too strong without claiming stuff that’s not true. Try it.
Exactly.
What happened to my dear Freddy will always be a reminder that feedback and data takes time to be collected and properly adjusted, if necessary.