Kindred Should NOT Be Basekit

But something like it should be. Being able to see the killer's aura is too strong for a base kit ability.

Instead I think a system that pings the killer's location for a couple of seconds, like a survivor version of killer instinct, if they're within 24 meters of a survivor and within their line-of-sight would be best. Kind of like how "Alert" works. It should probably have some sort of cool down, but testing would be needed to know for sure.

I think it should work on stealth killers too as long as they can be seen by another survivor.

Comments

  • lol but all those legion buffs and many things killers are getting....yall stridor will counter iron will again lol so yeah face camping buba days need to come to an end.

  • It's very strong but if they compensate with general killer buffs it's fine, and I mean big buffs because they are essentialy giving survivors a 5th perk slot.

  • IMO the main strength of Kindred is telling you when everyone else is on a gen or going for the unhook, so would agree with the main point of having Kindred base kit, minus the killer aura.

    "I think it should work on stealth killer's too as long as they can be seen by a other survivor."

    That just sounds like it'd end up being bugged, but makes sense if they could get it to work.

  • It's not a fake announcement?

  • Heres my ideal

    Survivor aura reading part of kindred becomes basekit, but if the killer is within 16 meters of a hooked survivor for 10 seconds survivors (and killer) get a sound notification and an icon that doesn't disappear until the killer exists within 16 meters of a hooked survivor (there are more details I would add to it but thats just the basic form)

    The perk itself is changed to be

    Shows you the killers aura when they are within 16 meters of a hooked survivor

    Shows all survivors the killers aura if they are within 16 meters of you while you are hooked

    If the killer is within 12 meters of you while you are hooked all other survivors get a 6/7/8% repair speed bonus


    No more killer aura reading without the perk but the notification does help survivors know when a teammate is being camped to go do gens or to go for save when they aren't

  • @LeonxJiwoon said:

    lol but all those legion buffs and many things killers are getting....yall stridor will counter iron will again lol so yeah face camping buba days need to come to an end.

    Sorry but I have to disagree. It's a playstyle that imo is boring but forcing people to play in certain ways takes away from the overall fun of the game.

  • @LeonxJiwoon said:

    lol but all those legion buffs and many things killers are getting....yall stridor will counter iron will again lol so yeah face camping buba days need to come to an end.

    Did you just say killers are getting many things?

    Umm you meant the most recent patch that only buffed trapper who's been in the base game since launch and gave legion a addon that isn't even that good

    Or do you mean the wraith nerf, deathslinger nerf, spirit nerf, and overall nerf to every single killer with the introduction of boons

    I swear people don't know how to get rid of their bias these days

  • @vacaman said:

    It's very strong but if they compensate with general killer buffs it's fine, and I mean big buffs because they are essentialy giving survivors a 5th perk slot.

    Is this true? o.o

  • They should make bloodlust a perk, same as kindred is a perk

  • I don't think so, I assume OP is just responding to the commonly made argument that Kindred should be base kit.

  • No it's not everyone's Wilding out over Scott junds fake patch notes when he says in the video that they are fake

  • @JPA said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2662999#Comment_2662999

    I don't think so, I assume OP is just responding to the commonly made argument that Kindred should be base kit.

    Yeah. It was in the fake/parody 7.0 patch notes and it sparked a few discussions about it. I just wanted to throw my opinion out there incase they actually consider any of those changes.

  • When people ask for Kindred as basekit, they really just mean the survivor aura part.

    The perk could then be just the killer aura part, maybe with a buffed range.

    This change alone would be transformative for solo queue.

  • @GrayEyes said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2662978#Comment_2662978

    Did you just say killers are getting many things?

    Umm you meant the most recent patch that only buffed trapper who's been in the base game since launch and gave legion a addon that isn't even that good

    Or do you mean the wraith nerf, deathslinger nerf, spirit nerf, and overall nerf to every single killer with the introduction of boons

    I swear people don't know how to get rid of their bias these days

    Are you upset that face camping especially if your bubba main is finally gonna be put to a stop? I didnt think death slinger needed a nerf because he was fun for me as a survivor and I respected that killer,

    spirit is no nerf as no ear bleeding audio queue helps when spine chill was already helping to know she is approaching before audio queue so the dust kick nerf is much needed, people who groan about strider is getting that perk buffed back for iron will count(but bite the bullet so much more better anyways)

    Wraith hit box was disgusting and he really needed that hit box nerf. Big maps are getting reduced which helps killers who have pressure issue alot of help. Circle that yall moan about is being nerfed, just watch that 7.0.0 video patch notes. Also why the heck do you or jpa always wanna start fights with me or something, get off my case dude bother someone else.

  • @Exxodus21 said:

    But something like it should be. Being able to see the killer's aura is too strong for a base kit ability.

    Instead I think a system that pings the killer's location for a couple of seconds, like a survivor version of killer instinct, if they're within 24 meters of a survivor and within their line-of-sight would be best. Kind of like how "Alert" works. It should probably have some sort of cool down, but testing would be needed to know for sure.

    I think it should work on stealth killers too as long as they can be seen by another survivor.

    Important for survivors to be able to ignore the heartbeat, red stain, killer sounds and callouts from their teammates. Why not just give survivors an active minimap that shows everything? You have a camera that allows you to magically see all around while hiding in a locker, how can we make this easier for people who really just can't be bother to play a game?

    I know, let's remove all killers from the game and just call if Generator Simulator! GenSim has a nice ring to it.

    Meg: "Whatareya going to do today Bill?"

    Bill: "Gonna play some GenSim, it's a great game except I still have to FIND a gen sometimes.

    Devs: "Here's a perk that shows the auras of gens, if you don't like doing gens, we also have a new boon totem that will do the gens for you.,"

    Steve: <teabags and cicks at Bill, Meg, the Devs and a random generator>

  • @dictep said:

    They should make bloodlust a perk, same as kindred is a perk

    Anything bloodlust 2 and after can be put into beast of prey, bloodlust 1 is fine

  • If Kindred isn't going to be base-line, then a scroll wheel comms system should be done so that we can make solo just as powerful as SWF, and then buff killers to be able to compete with both equally.

  • i wouldnt mind it being basekit under certain, relatively specific requirements.

    here's my suggestion:

    When the Killer remains within 16 meters to a hook without leaving for X seconds (needs to be enough time to kick some things and walking away without activating it) and there are no Survivors within these 16 meters or currently in chase, the Killers aura is revealed to everyone on the map and their action speed gets increased by Y%.

  • @bjorksnas said:

    Heres my ideal

    Survivor aura reading part of kindred becomes basekit, but if the killer is within 16 meters of a hooked survivor for 10 seconds survivors (and killer) get a sound notification and an icon that doesn't disappear until the killer exists within 16 meters of a hooked survivor (there are more details I would add to it but thats just the basic form)

    The perk itself is changed to be

    Shows you the killers aura when they are within 16 meters of a hooked survivor

    Shows all survivors the killers aura if they are within 16 meters of you while you are hooked

    If the killer is within 12 meters of you while you are hooked all other survivors get a 6/7/8% repair speed bonus

    No more killer aura reading without the perk but the notification does help survivors know when a teammate is being camped to go do gens or to go for save when they aren't

    I like this until the gen speed thing. if someone's camping, genrushing is the counter already. also, it could be abused by having one person go loop near the hook.

  • @LeonxJiwoon said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2662997#Comment_2662997

    Are you upset that face camping especially if your bubba main is finally gonna be put to a stop? I didnt think death slinger needed a nerf because he was fun for me as a survivor and I respected that killer,

    spirit is no nerf as no ear bleeding audio queue helps when spine chill was already helping to know she is approaching before audio queue so the dust kick nerf is much needed, people who groan about strider is getting that perk buffed back for iron will count(but bite the bullet so much more better anyways)

    Wraith hit box was disgusting and he really needed that hit box nerf. Big maps are getting reduced which helps killers who have pressure issue alot of help. Circle that yall moan about is being nerfed, just watch that 7.0.0 video patch notes. Also why the heck do you or jpa always wanna start fights with me or something, get off my case dude bother someone else.

    Ik your banned but I wanna reply and put your nonsense to rest

    First off everyone on these forums knows I main trapper I've made many posts stating this secondly, spirit did get nerfed that's not up for debate that's that's fact, thirdly that patch note vid is a joke it's fake patch notes made by Scott jund those aren't really patch notes none of those changes are going live

    Also fyi they didn't nerf wraiths hit box lmaoo they nerfed his lunge distance

    Please know what you are talking about before you state things as fact

  • @LeonxJiwoon said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2662997#Comment_2662997

    Are you upset that face camping especially if your bubba main is finally gonna be put to a stop? I didnt think death slinger needed a nerf because he was fun for me as a survivor and I respected that killer,

    spirit is no nerf as no ear bleeding audio queue helps when spine chill was already helping to know she is approaching before audio queue so the dust kick nerf is much needed, people who groan about strider is getting that perk buffed back for iron will count(but bite the bullet so much more better anyways)

    Wraith hit box was disgusting and he really needed that hit box nerf. Big maps are getting reduced which helps killers who have pressure issue alot of help. Circle that yall moan about is being nerfed, just watch that 7.0.0 video patch notes. Also why the heck do you or jpa always wanna start fights with me or something, get off my case dude bother someone else.

    The 7.0 patch notes were fake.

  • Can y’all imagine if the patch notes were real?