I THINK NEMESIS' ZOMBIES NEEDS A NERF.
i do get the nostalgia of having zombies. but nemesis should not see the zombies(or maybe see the zombies only on a small radius, just like how PH cannot see his special hooks.
its technically a free information for the killer, specially the these AI zombies seem to know how to camp gens.
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Free information is his power.
All his zombie needs if fixes so they won't stuck
NO. FREE INFORMATION should NOT be part of his power, and he's the only killer who has this power.
his power is very nice on closing in loops. the length of his tentacles closes a lot of gap, and it is even non-conditional and permanent. his zombies are already good enough to protect gens.
his zombies getting stuck is a bug, and should be fixed. but zombies getting stuck are like 1:50 games. If aura reading is not removed, i suggest to shorten the aura reading for zombies, maybe around terror radius at maximum.
Doctor says hello, Pinhead has free information basekit too, Legion's and ghostafaces killer's instinct enters the chat, as well as Demo, as well as Executioner, as well as Victor
Zombies get stuck in half of my games as nemesis, if not more.
I understand Nemesis just found you healing in the corner because of zombie but that doesn't mean he's op
If you really think zombies only get stuck one out of 50 games, I suggest you actually play Nemesis before complaining about him. Because it’s far more often than that. I’d put it around one out of every four zombies - if not more.
Also as @landromat said, plenty of other killers give out survivor locations for free - and more often. If you have beef with that then get Doctor and Legion nerfed first before Nemesis.
Nemesis's zombies are super buggy, and nerfing them will just make nemesis really weak as his zombies are already good at not doing their job, but removing the aura reading for nemesis will just make the zombies useless and nemesis won't be able to babysit the ai anymore
*Plague with her iridescent incense has entered the chat*
For real this add-on is so broken in terms of free information that it makes looping and mind gaming Plague near impossible. Nemesis' zombies are nothing in comparison to this.
Just for reset de zombies stuck somewhere or kill a zombie that its in the middle of an already done zone you should see them.
The zombies are really only meant for information, they are very useless otherwise in most situations.
I'm pretty sure the point of the zombies is for info more than actual lethality.
"NO. FREE INFORMATION should NOT be part of his power, and he's the only killer who has this power."
Oh, you mean the power that every SWF discord team gets for the low cost of zero perk slots? Yeah, it'd be terrible if killers started getting all the survivor powers.
No. Zambies are fine.
Please tell me you're joking. The zombies are so bad, the AI is a joke
I literally worked on an entire gen while a zombie stared at me from across a short wall. Even a nearby teammate running to join me didn't free the zombie. I flashlighted the zombie after I finished and I'm pretty sure that zombie stayed there for the rest of the match.
IMO the only nerf they need is they need to lose collision when a survivor is hit by them
*Oni with his iri add on laughs at Plague*
I think the zombies by and large are fine. As a survivor they honestly seem a little pointless most of the time. One thing I do think they need to work on though is consistency. Most of the time they don't react to you if they cannot see you or if you're not moving to close. However, other times they seem to know where you're hiding even if they can't see you. I was hiding between two rocks before and I heard it behind me and it cornered me in. Unless it was an unlucky spawn but its happened a few times.
Free infos?
Like when they run toward nothing?
When youre able to outrun or outmsart them and Lure the killer somewhere else?
Like whzn they still try to follow you but youre on the other side of the map
Like when they are sruck in a tree or à rock?
That free info is part of his power, and he's far from the only one with free intel.
Besides, look at the overall picture: Nemesis is really not that bad to face. If he's fine with the intel, why nerf that out?
I know this would be a terrible idea.
the old killers' AURA READING are very conditional. ITS NOT FREE, and its time consuming for killers.
PLAGUE- her vomiting aura is an ADD ON BASED, its not free information unless she have it. counterable if you cleansed.
DOCTOR- it takes him around 45 second cooldown to use this again, and its not even as useful at it can be countered by lockers.
LEGION - its only useful during feral frenzy, and its not even as good as it gets.
TWINS - the only time it is useful is when victor is camping out on an area. IT EVEN HAS TERROR RADIUS to know that hes there.
WRAITH - ALL SEEING ADD ON.
PINHEAD - technically conditional due to its relies getting his BOX. PRETTY CONDITIONAL TO ME.
EXECUTIONER - IF YOU ONLY STEP ON HIS TORMENT.
DEMO - only when his upside down. (pretty conditional to me)
HUNTRESS - add on based aura reading.
NURSE - ADD ON BASED.
GHOSTFACE - he still needs to stalk. its not even aura reading. if youre saying "IM ALL EARS", its a perk honey. research on it.
So any killers with FREE AURA READING? i dont think so. NEMESIS is actually a powerful killer, and i dont see any reason to call him weak. his tentacles cooldown is as good as M1, and if you know how to play him, youd know that you can flick his tentacles. it was already a bad idea to have zombies. and even you say that zombies are bugged, it does not happen EVERYTIME, and is very annoying when located at the right place and time.
on the latter part of my post, i suggested that it might be better to have the zombie aura reading to be distance based, not GLOBAL.