Trickster was made too early and we need to use fresher ideas first so we can think about these kill

After nurse, because the original 5 charecters of each side are not based on the timeline, dbd has went from the bcs to the 1800s, then an entity related killer, and finally back to 1700s with twins with most killers in the game. We are taking a huge step making a killer for the now so early. It leaves out room for a more interesting killer power or fun gameplay, as tricksters power is eudimentary and has high inefficiency of use + low base kit. For original killers, mqybe we could go back to romans to finish off fresh ideas before killers become reskinned like trickster and huntress are similar?

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  • @loopsahoy said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2077326#Comment_2077326

    Still, it is licensed. Seriously, idek what you guys are saying that gf aint licensed.

    And also yeah, ghostface isn't licensed, only the mask is. Ghostface isnt owned by scream, its owned by the people who created the mask, meaning technically ghostface in dbd is an original killer

  • Isn't wraith from like, 2006? Theres a calendar in gas heaven that says the date. 2006 isn't too far from 2021.

  • I think you forgot that they can go from a killer from 2000's ce to 2000's bce if the devs really wanted. Like others have said, Ghost Face is also pretty recent. The costume was created in the 1990s and then became popular once Scream was a thing a few years later (also still 1990s). At earliest that would mean Ghost Face is from 1990. Which is still pretty recent. Then they went 1970s (I think that's when Stranger Things was?) with Demo and then all the way back to Ancient Japan with Oni. Which, I'm not sure about you, but that wasn't 1970s. The devs aren't going by a specific timeline like oh next chapter we're doing a futuristic killer from the year 3080. That's not going to happen, it's possible, but probably not.

    Edit: I looked it up because in his lore they mentioned Oni was a samurai so I looked up when the age of samurai was in Japan and it says 1185-1868. So Oni MAY be from the 1800s but I feel like he's older than that.

  • @ChurchofPig said:

    I think you forgot that they can go from a killer from 2000's ce to 2000's bce if the devs really wanted. Like others have said, Ghost Face is also pretty recent. The costume was created in the 1990s and then became popular once Scream was a thing a few years later (also still 1990s). At earliest that would mean Ghost Face is from 1990. Which is still pretty recent. Then they went 1970s (I think that's when Stranger Things was?) with Demo and then all the way back to Ancient Japan with Oni. Which, I'm not sure about you, but that wasn't 1970s. The devs aren't going by a specific timeline like oh next chapter we're doing a futuristic killer from the year 3080. That's not going to happen, it's possible, but probably not.

    Edit: I looked it up because in his lore they mentioned Oni was a samurai so I looked up when the age of samurai was in Japan and it says 1185-1868. So Oni MAY be from the 1800s but I feel like he's older than that.

    Oni is from the 1800s because it was when samurais were ending and the feudal age if Japan was ending as well, so that's why he went on a killing spree killing fake samurais and he didnt want the samurai to end

  • @Lochnload_exe said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2077546#Comment_2077546

    Oni is from the 1800s because it was when samurais were ending and the feudal age if Japan was ending as well, so that's why he went on a killing spree killing fake samurais and he didnt want the samurai to end

    Oh I forgot about that. Then yeah he's later 1800s.

  • @loopsahoy said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2077336#Comment_2077336

    Jusging off your name you are probably a toxic survivor main with the way you speak. what im saying is if they use odeas like this now then they are gonna feel undone because they could use fresher ideas first so killers can be balanced. Thats what you want right? Oh wait, your version of balanced is just you winning all your games.

    Attacking someone based off their username isn't going to make them want to listen. Especially when their comment had nothing to do with winning a match.

  • @SMitchell8 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2077267#Comment_2077267

    My argument against the Trickster is that there are about 500 other horror genre's they didn't pick ahead of a pop singer. He's quite fun but obviously broken right now. He's been purely designed to draw in Korean fans to the game. Nothing horrific about him tbh.

    Out of every killer he seemed thrilled to be chasing a survivor. He literally is chuckling and humming whenever he done hooking someone. I do agree on him being weak tho.

  • @loopsahoy said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2077336#Comment_2077336

    Jusging off your name you are probably a toxic survivor main with the way you speak. what im saying is if they use odeas like this now then they are gonna feel undone because they could use fresher ideas first so killers can be balanced. Thats what you want right? Oh wait, your version of balanced is just you winning all your games.

    Why does the username matter in a topic concerning the timeline? Judging from your name you run Steve the ahoy part timer.

  • @katoptris said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2077348#Comment_2077348

    Why does the username matter in a topic concerning the timeline? Judging from your name you run Steve the ahoy part timer.

    Nope. Im a claudette main. I just see lots of people who have those kinds of names are are toxic survivors.

  • @katoptris said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2077348#Comment_2077348

    Why does the username matter in a topic concerning the timeline? Judging from your name you run Steve the ahoy part timer.

    Also, it was the way they were talking to me, it felt pretty toxic.

  • @PanicSquid said:

    Clown is from somewhere between ~1980 and ~2005. His add on VHS Porn is my evidence, and this is roughly the time in which VHSs were the popular.

    Trapper is probably from the early 1900's. His lore deals with the miners wanting to unionize.

    Hillbilly is relatively modern, chainsaw.

    Wraith is probably also modern ~80's or 90's, we could trace his age by figuring out what war he saw as a kid.

    Legion are 80's or 90's

    Huntress was around one of the World Wars, I don't care enough to figure out which one.

    Plague is Babylonian, so shes ancient.

    Ok, im done repeatong the same thing, i meant to say most killers.

  • @danielmaster87 said:

    Nobody cares about some imaginary timeline that you think exists. The devs have never said anything about this. They can make more modern killers if they want.

    They could at least go back so they can think about modern killers first.

  • My guy, I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about. You're confusing everyone here and it seems like you're on a completely different topic than the rest of the discussion. Your post mentions the timeline of the killers. Are you talking about the lore timeline, physical timeline? Because your comments don't match your post. How does balancing have anything to do with the lore or in-game timeline? And if you're talking about the physical timeline for balancing purposes, why mention the lore at all?

  • @MysticalMagic92 said:

    My guy, I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about. You're confusing everyone here and it seems like you're on a completely different topic than the rest of the discussion. Your post mentions the timeline of the killers. Are you talking about the lore timeline, physical timeline? Because your comments don't match your post. How does balancing have anything to do with the lore or in-game timeline? And if you're talking about the physical timeline for balancing purposes, why mention the lore at all?

    There isnt much history to use with bts killers, and modern history like 2000 to now is not big, this is why it was made too early and the killer came out undone.

  • They did not have much to use, amd the killer is weak for it.

  • With earlier times, we have more room to create killers with better powers.

  • @loopsahoy said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2078102#Comment_2078102

    There isnt much history to use with bts killers, and modern history like 2000 to now is not big, this is why it was made too early and the killer came out undone.

    The balance and design of a killer has absolutely nothing to do with their lore. Killers from recent times can still have unique abilities. The Trickster was just a poorly designed killer, with a difficult to balance power. A killer's balance is independent of their history. You don't need to have a good backstory to have a good balance.

  • @MysticalMagic92 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2078112#Comment_2078112

    The balance and design of a killer has absolutely nothing to do with their lore. Killers from recent times can still have unique abilities. The Trickster was just a poorly designed killer, with a difficult to balance power. A killer's balance is independent of their history. You don't need to have a good backstory to have a good balance.

    He was poorly designed because they didnt have much to work with.

  • I really don't understand this Trickster is ranged, Huntress is ranged... therefore they are the same argument.


    So Deathslinger, Huntress, Plague, Clown, and PH are the same killer to? Ranged abilities!

    Bubba and Billy are obviously the same. Chainsaw abilities!

    Oni, Spirit, Billy, and Blight are all the same. Sonic abilities!

    Wraith and Spirit are the same. Invisibility abilities!

    Trapper, Freddy, and Hag are the same. Trap abilities!

    Hag, Freddy, and Nurse are the same. Teleportation abilities!

    Clown and PH are the same! Area denial abilities!


    Trickster is a incredible addition, he just needs buffed.

  • @VexTheHex said:

    I really don't understand this Trickster is ranged, Huntress is ranged... therefore they are the same argument.

    So Deathslinger, Huntress, Plague, Clown, and PH are the same killer to? Ranged abilities!

    Bubba and Billy are obviously the same. Chainsaw abilities!

    Oni, Spirit, Billy, and Blight are all the same. Sonic abilities!

    Wraith and Spirit are the same. Invisibility abilities!

    Trapper, Freddy, and Hag are the same. Trap abilities!

    Hag, Freddy, and Nurse are the same. Teleportation abilities!

    Clown and PH are the same! Area denial abilities!

    Trickster is a incredible addition, he just needs buffed.

    Trickster has the same ability as huntress but weaker. WOW!

    at least every other killer was DIFFERENT. WOW!

  • @loopsahoy said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2078155#Comment_2078155

    Trickster has the same ability as huntress but weaker. WOW!

    at least every other killer was DIFFERENT. WOW!

    He doesn't have the same ability. Unless you also consider Spirit, Billy, Oni, and Blight clones as well.

  • @VexTheHex said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2078160#Comment_2078160

    He doesn't have the same ability. Unless you also consider Spirit, Billy, and Blight clones as well.

    Spirit can phase, billy can instadown, bloght has more dexterity . DIFF-ER-ENT.

  • @VexTheHex said:

    I really don't understand this Trickster is ranged, Huntress is ranged... therefore they are the same argument.

    So Deathslinger, Huntress, Plague, Clown, and PH are the same killer to? Ranged abilities!

    Bubba and Billy are obviously the same. Chainsaw abilities!

    Oni, Spirit, Billy, and Blight are all the same. Sonic abilities!

    Wraith and Spirit are the same. Invisibility abilities!

    Trapper, Freddy, and Hag are the same. Trap abilities!

    Hag, Freddy, and Nurse are the same. Teleportation abilities!

    Clown and PH are the same! Area denial abilities!

    Trickster is a incredible addition, he just needs buffed.

    You really don't think Billy and Bubba aren't the same killer even after the devs confirmed Billy is just unlicensed Bubba??

    @loopsahoy said:

    With earlier times, we have more room to create killers with better powers.

    That makes no sense. New killers have a larger range of weapons and abilities to choose from. An ancient killer wouldn't be able to benefit from an AK-47 like Slinger does (Not ironic I mean it).

  • Trickster throws little blades at survivors . Huntress throws big hatchets.

    Trickster can damage the survivors by throwing 8. Huntress can by throwing 1.

    They both have the same range, and trickster is weaker.

  • @loopsahoy said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2078161#Comment_2078161

    Spirit can phase, billy can instadown, bloght has more dexterity . DIFF-ER-ENT.

    Trickster is rapid fire, takes more hits, more ammo, less accuracy, and has a special ability (main event) that charges.

  • @notlonely said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2078155#Comment_2078155

    You really don't think Billy and Bubba aren't the same killer even after the devs confirmed Billy is just unlicensed Bubba??

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2078120#Comment_2078120

    That makes no sense. New killers have a larger range of weapons and abilities to choose from. An ancient killer wouldn't be able to benefit from an AK-47 like Slinger does (Not ironic I mean it).

    The point went like 100 miles over you head. Do these two play the same? I thought that was one of the most obvious "You're wrong OP" connections and yet someone called these two the same. :I

  • @VexTheHex said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2078166#Comment_2078166

    Trickster is rapid fire, takes more hits, more ammo, less accuracy, and has a special ability (main event) that charges.

    Trickster misses most of his shots, he has a hard time, autofire only makes it harder to aim, faster autofire is even worse, and knives have little effficeincy that makes the high number worthles. You kniw what? Hust go look at my trickster buff.

  • @VexTheHex said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2078173#Comment_2078173

    The point went like 100 miles over you head. Do these two play the same? I thought that was one of the most obvious "You're wrong OP" connections and yet someone called these two the same. :I

    The point didnt go over my head. Each power ouputs the same affect, but trockster does it slower. Therefore, trickster os weaker. They play the same mostly as well.

  • @loopsahoy said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2078177#Comment_2078177

    The point didnt go over my head. Each power ouputs the same affect, but trockster does it slower. Therefore, trickster os weaker. They play the same mostly as well.

    That reply wasn't even to you. It was to the person who said Cannibal and Billy are the same. They were talking about from a design stand point (some mentally handicapped chainsaw wielding beast of a man) while I was discussing game play stand point.

  • @loopsahoy said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2078129#Comment_2078129

    He was poorly designed because they didnt have much to work with.

    Since you love short answers, he was not poorly designed because they did not have much to work with. He was poorly designed because he was poorly designed. Him being a weaker version of huntress has nothing to do with lore, and his weak power has everything to do with their inept sense of balancing.

  • @MysticalMagic92 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2078133#Comment_2078133

    Since you love short answers, he was not poorly designed because they did not have much to work with. He was poorly designed because he was poorly designed. Him being a weaker version of huntress has nothing to do with lore, and his weak power has everything to do with their inept sense of balancing.

    Why is everybody putting words in my mouth? I mever said that.

  • I never said i love short answers

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