My thoughts about dbd tournament

Survivors in general complains about camping and tunneling,but from what I saw,when money is at stake,the best strat you have againts survivors is,down 1 as fast as possible.Hook him,possibly camp him to death,bait survivors into rescuing,tunnel the survivor you hooked him so you can take him out of the game as fast as possible,even if he has ds,its still worth taking the risk from what I saw.Then snowball.If dbd will ever have a competitive scene I feel like this is gonna be the main strat if nothing is done about it.

https://www.twitch.tv/hexy

You can check the tournament here and see for yourself how the pretty much all killers used this tactic.

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  • @Dzeikor said:

    Survivors in general complains about camping and tunneling,but from what I saw,when money is at stake,the best strat you have againts survivors is,down 1 as fast as possible.Hook him,possibly camp him to death,bait survivors into rescuing,tunnel the survivor you hooked him so you can take him out of the game as fast as possible,even if he has ds,its still worth taking the risk from what I saw.Then snowball.If dbd will ever have a competitive scene I feel like this is gonna be the main strat if nothing is done about it.

    https://www.twitch.tv/hexy

    You can check the tournament here and see for yourself how the pretty much all killers used this tactic.

    While survivors complain about Camping and Tunneling which are both legit strats of course, Killer complain about genrush all the time. It goes both ways.

    You know what my thoughts are right now after seeing round 2 (No suprise for me, but for many apparently):

    The only argument killer mains bring all the time is "SWF is OP" but this tournament one more time shows that not even that is true. Killer are dominating, most games 2 or more kills. Even Wraith and Plague can destroy the best of the best teams on coms.

  • @xEa said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/191335/my-thoughts-about-dbd-tournament

    While survivors complain about Camping and Tunneling which are both legit strats of course, Killer complain about genrush all the time. It goes both ways.

    You know what my thoughts are right now after seeing round 2 (No suprise for me, but for many apparently):

    The only argument killer mains bring all the time are "SWF are OP" and this tournament shows that not even that is true. Killer are dominating, most games 2 or more kills. Even Wraith and Plague can destroy the best of the best teams on coms.

    True,in tournament I was surprised to see so many nurses,but it kinda makes sense,nurse can be crazy good in the hands of right players but crazy bad in the hands of a casual player that does good with an m1 killer for example.Also I think the fact survivors we're not allowed to have more than 2ds per match was a huge factor,either way genrush is what you ultimately have to do as a survivor,this is why i'm frustrated when I play soloq as survivor,no one does gens,they just run around until they get downed then the other 2 survivors run around to go for the save and get downed as well,lol.

  • the only real takeaway is this game is in no way tournament ready.

    Lacking any real support, there’s no proper spectate for killers, no map seeding, bugs like DS stun lasting 1 second, insane skill gaps within teams themselves, wack scoring etc

    it’s cool they did it, but bhvr themselves need to add support for it to go anywhere

  • @BigTimeGamer said:

    the only real takeaway is this game is in no way tournament ready.

    Lacking any real support, there’s no proper spectate for killers, no map seeding, bugs like DS stun lasting 1 second, insane skill gaps within teams themselves, wack scoring etc

    it’s cool they did it, but bhvr themselves need to add support for it to go anywhere

    Maybe in the future,but knowing BHVR,that's too much work.

  • The most sad thing is how little bhvr care about it to the point that hexy doesn't even want to do another one.

  • @Endstille said:

    The most sad thing is how little bhvr care about it to the point that hexy doesn't even want to do another one.

    I honestly dont know what BHVR goal with this game is lol.

  • Most of those teams were not actually competitive. Just saying.

  • Aren’t tournament rules that survivors can’t just run the same perks?

    So no survivor is full meta, and so they are weaker than regular games where 4 survivors can be full meta, you know, those matches people complain about?

    I’m not surprised about killers “dominating” if that’s the case, arguably they deal with worse odds to win than those on the regular and without second chances everywhere, snowball can begin sooner

    survivors still dictate the match in the beginning tho, all it takes for the killer to lose it’s a slow start

    also, aren’t tournament rules to score the killer based on hooks instead of kills? The tunneling part sounds weird

  • @MadLordJack said:

    Most of those teams were not actually competitive. Just saying.

    dbd competitive is not really a thing yet at least,but I think they all played decently good

  • @xEa said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/191335/my-thoughts-about-dbd-tournament

    While survivors complain about Camping and Tunneling which are both legit strats of course, Killer complain about genrush all the time. It goes both ways.

    You know what my thoughts are right now after seeing round 2 (No suprise for me, but for many apparently):

    The only argument killer mains bring all the time are "SWF are OP" and this tournament shows that not even that is true. Killer are dominating, most games 2 or more kills. Even Wraith and Plague can destroy the best of the best teams on coms.

    To be fair a lot of killers had NOED to counter genrush and survivors were limited to 2 of each perk per team.

    Also wraith had his all seeing add on lol

  • @Dzeikor said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1617990#Comment_1617990

    dbd competitive is not really a thing yet at least,but I think they all played decently good

    They were all good players that would probably wreck normal teams... But the reason DBD isn't competitive is because nothing beats spreading out, popping 3 gens, then stacking on the last 2 to avoid regression

  • @HamletEagle

    Yeah but to be fair you know, dbd is always gonna be filled with bugs. So I guess now is as good a time as any.

  • @MadLordJack said:

    Most of those teams were not actually competitive. Just saying.

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  • @xEa said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/191335/my-thoughts-about-dbd-tournament

    While survivors complain about Camping and Tunneling which are both legit strats of course, Killer complain about genrush all the time. It goes both ways.

    You know what my thoughts are right now after seeing round 2 (No suprise for me, but for many apparently):

    The only argument killer mains bring all the time are "SWF are OP" and this tournament shows that not even that is true. Killer are dominating, most games 2 or more kills. Even Wraith and Plague can destroy the best of the best teams on coms.

    Except its not really showing the game at its fullest. There are restrictions on both sides that are not in the base game to make things fair or to give certain killers a chance.

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1617848#Comment_1617848

    Oh boy here it is. Play Wraith into a team that clearly wasn't tournament-minded and all of a sudden Wraith is viable.

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1617881#Comment_1617881

    Basically this.

    Plus the ruleset made no sense. "Let's kill ourselves because hook states don't count for points but gens count for 2! Let's bleed out on the ground because it awards no points!" Nice.

    The tournament's been entertaining to watch from other perspectives. That's about it.

    not to mention that map was so situational for wraith,if it was any other map the outcome would have been different

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1617848#Comment_1617848

    Oh boy here it is. Play Wraith into a team that clearly wasn't tournament-minded and all of a sudden Wraith is viable.

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1617881#Comment_1617881

    Basically this.

    Plus the ruleset made no sense. "Let's kill ourselves because hook states don't count for points but gens count for 2! Let's bleed out on the ground because it awards no points!" Nice.

    The tournament's been entertaining to watch from other perspectives. That's about it.

    Oh boy here it is. Killer main running out of excuses so lets just play the "but they actually were trash" card. Holy ######### its getting really old. Just deal with it mate.

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1618055#Comment_1618055

    ALSO LOL

    If you didn't see the differences between some of the teams in the tournament I don't know what to tell you. Feels like you need your eyes checked, but I'm no eye doctor.

    Name the "bad teams" of round 2. I dont have to have my eyes checked, played against one or the other of them and let me tell you, all SWF teams on regular base players like you play against (and complain how op they are) are trash compaired with even the "worst" of those teams. Just makes me laugh how the "pros" here lay back and talk ######### when they probably are just some random noobs who will never reach skillelvel that is nearly on that level.

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1617890#Comment_1617890

    Who is Hexy? Is this someone important or some random money grubbing obsessed streamer?

    Well, from the 1 time I clicked his stream, he's #2. He was screaming/ talking ######### to donators trying to make it seem like the notification was messing him up, so the dumbasses fell for it n kept donating.

  • @Endstille said:

    The most sad thing is how little bhvr care about it to the point that hexy doesn't even want to do another one.

    this game just isnt tournament ready yet, we still need map seeding proper spectator mode and a matches without the amount of bugs live servers have

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1618127#Comment_1618127

    I don't even remember like half the teams that played yesterday. The only ones that stood out were Agony and Oracle. I think the highlight of how scuffed the team selection (not just survivor selection) was the scrollwheel hag who kept getting dumpstered on and baited by the team on Saloon. The Meg in the Wraith game is your survivor example of how poor the team selection was.

    And it's funny how you're acting like people have to be pros at the game to realize that some of these teams are just not ready for tournament play, as if people don't commentate on real sports all the time despite not being players, or how the casters of this (or any other esports tournament) aren't top tier themselves. Or you know: You. You're talking a lot of smack about other pubs players despite not being in this tourney yourself.

    And yeah I would probably be dunked on by the worst teams in the tourney because I don't play Nurse, I don't play survivor enough, and I don't play on PC LOL

    Also ######### was with all the killers running Rancor when Rancor kills don't even give full points as in the rules? Dumb perk selection from a lot of people that played killer. That right there is some Pepega decision making if I've ever seen it. People definitely weren't getting that much value out of the information aspect of it.

    E: Ninja'd you Rizzo.

    Bro, I honestly couldn't believe that meg. Like how are you in the best of the best tournament and never look behind you in a chase?

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1618067#Comment_1618067

    It's the same with Plague. So many loops to throw pule over, small enough to get corrupt constantly and pressure gens efficiently. Any other map? Done for.

    That’s true. IIRC they were told of the map before they picked their killer.

  • I mean if you're gonna call it killers "dominating" when nearly every match is camping the first hook to death then scraping one more as everyone leaves, then sure.

    I'm not saying there is a perfect way to score matches that accurately assesses winning and losing in a tournament, but I'm certain that we'd see completely different gameplay if unhooking had some form of point value. As it is, the best option points-wise is to get all the gens done asap then get as many people out as possible. Risking anything to fight a camp just hands points to the other team if you trade, while giving your own team nothing.

    Also as stated, killers are able to run any build they like, which is almost uniformly 3-4 stalling perks or end game punishing perks, and nearly every match all 5 gens still go off. Survivors on the other hand are limited to 2 copies of any perk within the squad, meaning we're not seeing 4 second chances on everyone, and killers have the choice to make riskier plays like tunnelling because it's only 50/50 that they can be DSed.

  • That's true as well, i hope they do balance the game more lol i'm not against it!