whirlwind931123

Play her in normal queue not Bloodmoon. Bloodmoon has far easier survivors, which I explain here.

in Mmr, farming, and Houndmaster Comment by whirlwind931123 April 16, 2026

@Reinami said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4072872#Comment_4072872
What this one?
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Here they are in order by lowest kill rate:
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Wanna say some other BS?

Well, maybe if you ran Pain Res DMS you would have 84% kill rate like me. The 3 strongest builds currently are Pain Res + DMS, Hex Ruin + Pentimento, and Eruption on some killers. It's basically Hex Ruin + Pentimento on map pressure/mobility killers and Pain Res + DMS on everyone else. There's simply no other perk combo that performs as well on the average killer with no mobility and map pressure. Pain Res + DMS has the potential to fully regress a gen after forcing a survivor off it. At minimum, it stall gens for 10-20 seconds by forcing the survivor to run to another gen (if you manage to hit a gen with multiple survivors that's x2 or x3 the time wasted for survivors). The main other gen regression perks currently are Turn Back the Clock and Pop. They only get 10-15% regression, which isn't even close.

in Pain Res DMS is still the meta after 5 years Comment by whirlwind931123 April 15, 2026

@Reinami said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4072864#Comment_4072864
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Here's my escape rate for you too in pure solo queue:
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You didn't even post your overall kill rate. All I see are the stats of your most played killers.

in Pain Res DMS is still the meta after 5 years Comment by whirlwind931123 April 15, 2026

@Reinami said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4072852#Comment_4072852
DMS is bad after pain res is gone. So at that point you have a suboptimal perk that blocks gens when you are already chasing survivors off of gens. And at higher levels, good survivors will just let go of the gen just before you hook, so that you can't block the gen from the pain res.

I would like to see your kill rate, sir. I can't imagine it being higher than 70% based on your comments so far.

in Pain Res DMS is still the meta after 5 years Comment by whirlwind931123 April 15, 2026

@Reinami said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4072846#Comment_4072846
Na, its not optimal, gen blocking is much weaker than regression. Better to pain res a gen for 20%, then pop it for another 20% rather than block it for a short amount of time.

Smh. The gen blocking is regression since Pain Res regresses the gen then blocking it forces them to leave it (I know it doesn't regress when blocked). Unless they come back to repair it, it's going to regress. You're also not factoring for time wasted walking. The time the survivor spends walking to another gen is time wasted they aren't repairing, so it's psuedo-regression. Like if a survivor isn't repairing a gen for 10 seconds, that's basically 10 seconds of regression.

in Pain Res DMS is still the meta after 5 years Comment by whirlwind931123 April 15, 2026

@Reinami said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/466419/pain-res-dms-is-still-the-meta-after-5-years
IDK, at this point its been nerfed enough times i don't think DMS is that great. There are better options, like pain res with some other big gen regression like pop. Pain res goes off, you see where it is, you get to go pop the gen right after for big regression.

Nah. It's still optimal. The ability to push a survivor off a high progress gen without having to waste time walking to it and kicking it buys you so much time. Even without Pain Res, DMS on its own is insanely good. DMS comes in clutch later in the game when there a few gens left. Blocking those key gens when there aren't any other to work on buys you a lot of time.

in Pain Res DMS is still the meta after 5 years Comment by whirlwind931123 April 15, 2026

@Shroompy said:
I mean I agree that its been meta for a long time, but its only been out for a bit over 4 years (5 years in November)
Part of me however is kind of ok with it though, nowadays it is a perk that deincentivizes tunneling and rewards you for spreading hooks. The only way it would phase out of the meta is if gen regression would fall, but with how the game is and always has been I dont see that happening any time soon.

Forgot that Artist was released in 2021 since no one plays her lmao

in Pain Res DMS is still the meta after 5 years Comment by whirlwind931123 April 14, 2026

I doubt they will ever give Legion major buffs since he's the biggest noob stomper.

in Legion needs a buff Comment by whirlwind931123 April 6, 2026

They were discussing Springtrap buffs?

in Please be careful about buffing Springtrap Comment by whirlwind931123 April 3, 2026

I'm glad we pushed for Trickster buffs. I love the new Trickster (after the buffs).

in Trickster Update Feedback Comment by whirlwind931123 April 2, 2026

Yeah. Plague is super boring to play nowadays. Survivors never cleanse and you're pretty much just a M1 killer.

in I used to like playing Plague. Comment by whirlwind931123 April 2, 2026

I feel like the queue time for ranked would so long that players would just end up queueing casual. 2v8 is similar to what would happen. During 2v8, casual players play 2v8 while the tryhards play 1v4.

in DbD casual and DBD competitive need a way to co-exist Comment by whirlwind931123 March 30, 2026

@cogsturning said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4067490#Comment_4067490
Oh, 2 years then. So you've been gone since the grade system went away? Well sure, it's different numbers. They changed the whole thing. I'm pretty sure almost everyone thinks it sucks, aside people who want easy wins. It's supposed to be getting reworked, but who knows how that'll go.

Gone a little over 1 year. I left on Nov 2024 and returned in Jan 2026.

in High MMR has objectively gotten easier Comment by whirlwind931123 March 28, 2026

@cogsturning said:
18% means 18% of players passed the threshold. There's no percentage cap. It's only different if they lowered the threshold number.
You also don't know anyone's MMR so you're just assuming about yourself and your opponents. Four years means yours may have decayed anyway.

18% means 18% of players passed the threshold. There's no percentage cap. It's only different if they lowered the threshold number.

I have no idea what your point is. In 2024, you were playing against the top 10%. Now, you're playing against the top 18%.

You also don't know anyone's MMR so you're just assuming about yourself and your opponents. Four years means yours may have decayed anyway.

Actually, I do. It was possible to check your MMR in the past and I checked it. I was max MMR. I won't go into details here, but I can discuss in private messages if you want.

I've been playing for a few months now. My MMR should be back to max if decay even exists. Regardless, it doesn't take much to reach high MMR. A 30-50 win streak depending on your starting MMR is all it takes.

Also I think you misread my post. I stopped playing in 2024, so it's only been a year.

in High MMR has objectively gotten easier Comment by whirlwind931123 March 28, 2026

@Dinadin said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4067473#Comment_4067473
MMR didnt even existed in 2020. But I get, you do not understand it.

DBD had Grades back then:
Ash

Bronze

Silver

Gold

Iridescent

By max MMR, I meant that I was Iri 1 (the highest rank). After MMR was released, I got max MMR.

in High MMR has objectively gotten easier Comment by whirlwind931123 March 28, 2026

@Dinadin said:
Just because there is a higher percentage doesnt mean its gotten easier at all. There is pretty much no way in telling why this has changed as bhvr has meddled several times with the MMR in that timespan. Youre just jumping to conclusions without having any evidence.

In 2024, you were facing the top 10%. Now, you're facing the top 18%. It's objectively easier. Dota and LoL have significantly changed their matchmaking and MMR system over the years, and it's the same thing. Higher ranked players are always better.
I've been a max MMR killer since 2020. Like I said, I stopped playing DBD completely since 2024 and returned a few months ago. The games are drastically easier and it's impossible for me to have gotten better since I didn't play or watch DBD at all during my break.

in High MMR has objectively gotten easier Comment by whirlwind931123 March 28, 2026

You can easily test that by playing other A and S tier killers.

in Mmr has favorites. Comment by whirlwind931123 March 27, 2026

The game balances killers, around the enjoyment of survivors

Then play survivor.

in I'm on the verge of quitting dead by daylight. Comment by whirlwind931123 March 27, 2026

@kesLV said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4066945#Comment_4066945
How can it be accurate, if i get 4k in both matches, but showing that 3 escaped (counting them together)? On average it means 2.5 kills per match, but in reality was 4 :/

I meant to say inaccurate. That's a typo.

in dbd stats page not accurate? Comment by whirlwind931123 March 26, 2026

Are you sure you're getting better survivors, or are you just performing worse because you're playing Nurse? Nurse is frequently called a S tier killer, but she has always had by far the lowest kill rate, so she isn't beginner friendly.

in MMR has 2 settings. Comment by whirlwind931123 March 26, 2026

It's accurate when someone abandons. If you abandon, it also counts remainig survivors as an escape.

in dbd stats page not accurate? Comment by whirlwind931123 March 26, 2026

I see a hacker like once every hundred games.

in Cross play Comment by whirlwind931123 March 24, 2026

@AlwaysInAGoodShape said:
DEVS, DON'T GIVE IN TO PRESSURE
Trickster has always been a troubled killer. A killer that made many lobbies DC due to the Trickster failing to create a healthy level of interactive counter play, ruining the experience for survivor. He was essentially another Legion; one where chases aren't really that impactful and you're gonna get run down eventually, no matter how good you are. With the Trickster being able to apply that same logic to 2 health state has made him a well hated killer among the survivor community. So why did he fail where other killers didn't?

A perfect example of interactive counterplay is Huntress;
Let's look at a smaller loop. If the Huntress just walks through a pallet, she'll catch up to a survivor and hit them.
If a survivor drops the pallet, they can stun the huntress.
The huntress can in turn counter this by faking walking through a pallet and pulling up her hatchet ready to throw it over the pallet when it's thrown down
The survivor can counter this by faking throwing a pallet and keep running.
The huntress can counter this by faking pulling up the hatches and just running through like she did at the start.

This rock paper scissor gameplay is what creates interactive gameplay, and why huntress is one of the beloved killers of this community, and that is where older versions of Trickster failed.

But what would interactive gameplay looks like for Trickster? Because dodging a single hatches can feel impactful, but dodging a single knife just to be hit by the next and having zoned yourself surely isn't it.

Well, there are multiple things that can make playing against the trickster more impactful:
- The ability for the Trickster to run out of knives
- Having blade decay be a serious mechanic that survivors can realistically utilize
- Having distance from the killer due to them having a lower movement-speed
All of these things have the potential of turning the Trickster into an interactive gameplay killer. Now there's a problem. Have you noticed a lot of the feedback on this thread?
More knives, more base movement-speed, longer laceration decay timer…
The suggestions from the majority have been everything that would ruin interactive gameplay for the Trickster, and would turn the Trickster into yet another Run Down ranged legion…
But this monster has been our own creating. Because this Trickster-Legion has been the temporary solution for the Trickster rework; 8 blades to make chases last longer, but essentially guaranteed downs, and high blade counts. Sure it is "balanced". Having essentially guaranteed similar chase times and guaranteed downs are balanced but they aren't fun, nor interactive, yet it has trained many beginner players on their perception of what Trickster-Legion is;
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Many people here would call the current rework a Nerf, which for many beginner players it is. Because the current, extremely well done rework (that is a net buff) has killed the un-interactive Run-Down Trickster hated by the survivor community. This means Trickster now is no longer a ranged legion, but a careful accuracy machine full of tricks, with deadly blades, trained on re-aiming corners and map knowledge as well as knowledge of survivor's pathing to efficiently take down survivors.

For the true trickster mains, it is the true prediction, around every corner, to predict whether, based on the distance, they will be able to hit a knife, and where that survivor will be located, so they can preferably pre-aim at that location. Consequently, for survivors, to fight this Trickster it is in their best interest to be unpredictable with their pathing to screw up the Trickster's pre-aim as many times as possible.

For the first time, we have interactive gameplay for a killer that used to have none. Not only that, but the Devs have been able to do so while making the rework a NET BUFF to the killer, one that is accessible for anyone that's willing to let go of the hated Run Down Trickster-Legion and usher in the area of the True and unique Trickster playstyle.

In the charts above, you can see the old learning curve, as well as the new learning curve, a net buff, in which the red zone exemplifies the "complaint zone", aka people who have yet to learn the Trickster as more than a Run-Down legion and will have to learn the real Trickster, and the green zone, the GOATED zone, for tricksters who are one with trickster and have decided to learn the killer properly, and are able to see why he is stronger.

My argument is, that even though the complaint zone looks big, from the previously brained legions dressed as Tricksters, many of these people and their complaints, would actually change, once they realize that the green zone exists. Even though the Devs might see negative feedback around the current Trickster, many of these players might change their minds upon realizing that if they properly learn this killer, they would be stronger than they could ever be with 4.6 44 Trickster-Legion.
I myself had to go through this experience as well. As someone who didn't play Trickster until the rework, my first experience was brutal too; getting pre-ran, running out of knives, seeing my laceration decay. The answers seemed simple… yet couldn't have been further from the truth.

All of the things I would've complained about weren't a flaw with the killer, but were simply attributable to being a skill-issue. Both seeing proper Trickster players perform so well has inspired me to try to actually learn this killer properly too, and even just over the course of a couple of days, I have been able to get my first dominating games. This of course requires one to truly want to be a Trickster, which requires you to also understand what it means to think like a Trickster; leaning pre-aims at corners, like shack, judging distance and estimating when you will get peeks. Learning flicks and understanding the delay time between when you press your blade and when it's trajectory is actually decided for flicks. The depth to this killer are not only insane, they are extremely fun! That is why I'm truly a fan of the "Trickster is a killer for the perfectionists"

It is also in this fun state, where the Trickster has interactive gameplay. Remember the Huntress story from earlier? Interactive gameplay with the current Trickster exists due to his lower maximum knife count, higher laceration, lower base movement speed, all things that adds to giving survivors more value for dodging and playing well, as well as being unpredictable with their pathing at Trickster's favourite pre-aiming spots

Due to the Trickster's design, dodging blades can only ever have some significance if the Trickster is forced to play at this higher skill ceiling. It is the only place where interactive gameplay can exist, unlike killers like huntress, where interactive gameplay can also exist at lower skill levels. It's therefore my belief that all killer powers, however they are designed, should be balanced around where their gameplay remains interactive. For some, that means that they are very accessible , for some killers, like Krasue where little interaction exists, should simply be nerfed, and where killer's interactivity is great, like Blight, his power can be celebrated by many. What that means for Trickster is that he can only ever be healthy for the game, if he is implemented as a high skill-cap killer, and that is something all of us Trickster players can celebrate, because this means that any of us can make him shine, if we're willing to put in the practice to learn what makes this killer unique.

That's why I hope that the Devs don't succumb to pressure and turn Trickster into yet another ranged Legion and embrace him for what makes him unique, as even I myself, in lesser knowledge would've advocated for the wrong things; more knives, more free base-kit movement-speed, slower laceration. Many of them simply don't know any better yet, myself from the past included. They are still in the Red Zone from the chart and simply don't know any better than to think the killer got nerfed in this patch, as being Legion brained can easily make you think. But once they take the time to learn this killer, for all that makes the Trickster unique; a perfectionist killer full of Tricks, they will have a true monster on their hands~

With the steep learning curve, why learn Trickster when I could just learn, Nurse, Blight or Billy? With these difficult killers, they have to be at least A+ tier for it to be worth learning them because you have to grind hundreds of hours on them. I could learn how to play Trickster but I would be stuck playing only Trickster, which is why the pay off for learning these difficult killers has to be high.

in Trickster Update Feedback Comment by whirlwind931123 March 24, 2026

After playing him more, Trickster is just a worse Huntress with far more steps. Trickster has the downside of being 4.4 m/s and has to waste time landing so many blades. With Huntress, I just throw 1 axe and that's it. Huntress is literally Trickster with everyone survivor on full Laceration already. I think BHVR designed Trickster to be "easier" than Huntress thinking that more blades = easier, but in reality, Huntress is the far easier and better killer. I would rate Trickster as low C tier. Trickster would need some very large buffs for him to become a popular killer. Currently, I see Trickster fading into obsecurity like before the rework within a few weeks.

in Trickster Update Feedback Comment by whirlwind931123 March 21, 2026

Not sure if intended but the killer aura changes the aura of Doctor's Hallucinations.

in Custom Aura Colors Feedback Comment by whirlwind931123 March 20, 2026

No one is going to play this killer after a few weeks. He needs 4.6 m/s base and more knives.

in Trickster Update Feedback Comment by whirlwind931123 March 18, 2026

Large map with extremely strong loops and pallets. It's the next Badham.

in New Map: Trickster's Delusion Feedback Comment by whirlwind931123 March 18, 2026

@Defnotmeghead said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4054478#Comment_4054478
They run it, because tunnel meta. Genrushing isnt that common, and hard gen rushing is rare if you create any form of pressure. time, where DH is "only" used 14% of the time. BECAUSE Lithe puts an obstacle between you and the killer.

In fact, if you added 20 second extra cooldown to SB and added a functionality to press E whenever to activate Sprintburst, it would be SO so good that you wouldnt ever see another exhaustion perk inside the meta.

As for DH being an anti-tunnel tool, then it shouldnt be countered by deepwounds or exhaustion perks too and just work like Mettle of Man: Free healthstate, no downsides.

But Lithe still works if you're getting tunneled. There's no way you don't make it to a vault with the base kit endurance and speed boost off hook. The choice of DH over Lithe means DH is better. Also, still waiting on an answer to why they aren't running Off The Record + SB/Lithe. Off The Record is pretty much Dead Hard but without needing to press a button.