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@Rivyn said:
Bait thread. My guess, OP Tbagged a few pallets, clicky clicky, got focused on by a killer, camped during EGC, died, and came to the forums to make a bait post.
Bad guess. Killers are just that bad lately.
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@Power_Guy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2397947#Comment_2397947
Yeah, sure; not giving away my kill in the end game when I literally have nowhere else to be is the BAD idea.
Just more pathetic peer pressure insults in a sad attempt to control how Killers play. Try something new. 😂
Or you could practice chases, and actually get better.
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@Power_Guy said:
Rofl, these forums.
Now the Killer can't camp at the start of the match. Or at mid-match. And now, not even at end game, or they're 'bad at the game' and should 'play another game'.
Lordy, some Survivors are so entitled; they just think they should have every unhook handed to them.
Guess what? After gens pop is still 'during a match', so the Killer can still kill you, and camp his kills. Crazy, I know.
But this is more evidence that entitled Survivors invented 'after 5 gens pop' as the arbitrary 'We won' line and actually think this is true. 😂
It's actually a sign that you lack the skill in any other aspect of the game, and have to resort to standing around a hook for a kill.
Super talented you are...
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Shocking, Killer mains who ######### and complain about BT and DS, are defending end game camping as the only viable option to pulling a kill out of a ######### game. Not improving their skill.
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@Weasdat said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2397913#Comment_2397913
If you aren't good enough to not get downed at the EGC, maybe you should play another game.
Sounds like a perfect response. As a killer, already having all the advatages, if you chase someone long enough, you will down them. Most of the time killers will forfeit that last gen pop to tunnel for the end game hook. Most killers are apparently mediocre to low skilled though. These forums clearly show that.
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@dannyfrog87 said:
become the norm ######### are we meant to do? you survivors do talk so much ######### il just walk away shall i stand in the corner and let you unhook them ... lol when the survivors are all running round the hook or me
You could, I dunno, get better at the game. Hook people and practice your chases. The fact that you believe camping end game is the answer, shows you lack the skills in all other aspects of the game.
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@TragicSolitude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2397903#Comment_2397903
But other survivors usually come for the save. Killers can net three or even four kills just from survivors attempting to save the one. It makes tactical sense to use altruism against the opponent when possible. At the end of the match, there's nothing else for the killer to do.
Again, if you aren't good enough to get the kills during the match, maybe you should play another game.
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@TragicSolitude said:
... because walking away from the hook is a free escape for that survivor. If survivors come for the save, the killer may get them as well. If not, then at least they got the one kill. If gens are done, the killer has no reason to leave the hook and every reason to stay.
If you as a killer, get crapped on all game, and decide "Hey, I'm going to camp this 1 survior because I need at least 1 kill" maybe you should play another game around your skill level. Peharps Minecraft?
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@Northener1907 said:
Yeah killer has to leave hook and check gates. Then survivors can save their teammate safely. This from Survivor Rulebook. Page 159, rule 923
Nowhere did I say a killer has to do anything. What I asked is why are killers camping end game so much more lately.
Is it because the skill level has decreased?
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@bibibib8 said:
I hate when survivor run 3 or more second chase perk i find that unfun to go against specially when we all know survivor is the piwer role
What are you talking about? You killers bitched so much about them they got nerfed to the ground. People are literally running Lithe now...
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I've had a hell of a time pipping even in purple ranks.
Some matches I'll put up 27k+ points and 5-10k more than the next best survivor and I still don't pip. Something seems broken.
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@Hektic3000 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2362140#Comment_2362140
See the problem is you're thinking about this in a solo queue setting, sure you can't expect random people to do these "crazy" things. The problem is when you get a competent group that understands perks they can start to abuse interactions.
For every good player you can think of i can also show you instances of them breaking those rules because they we're forced to....they gotta adapt to the situation.
I've played killer enough to know that really good groups are few and far between.
I've also played enough solo queue to know that returning to hooks by killers is incredibly normal when the killer is between rank 20 and 3. Hence the need for Borrowed Time and protection body blocks. Hence this thread...
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@Hektic3000 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2362125#Comment_2362125
You must not play the game if you think people don't use defensive perks offensively, if they didn't this thread wouldnt be a thing. It's also the reason ds was changed, because people used it offensively!
You really think people select their perks and think "Yeah, Borrowed Time. This is how I'm going to escape this match. Unhooking people and hoping they take protection hits for me. What? Spine Chill or Iron Will instead? NO WAY. Borrowed time baby!"
Look Killer Mains. If you don't proxy camp the hook, you literally make BT a useless perk AND people have more fun. If you can't play the game without proxy camping, that's on you. Go watch a streamer or youtuber who is skilled at killer and learn the tactics they use. I promise you it's not tethering to the hook.
We aren't talking about DS here. We are talking about borrowed time...
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There's a lot of tunneling and camping going on since the nerf to DS.
This is the consequence of that and not having DC penalties.
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@Hektic3000 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2362109#Comment_2362109
If you progress the game by protecting teammates you cant be upset if the killer progresses the game by killing you. It's the same thing.
No one uses BT offensively, that would be dumb. The killer is the party who choses whether a BT protection hit is going to happen or not. No survivor leaves the hook, and B Lines to the killer across the map because they have Endurance.
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@ThiccBudhha said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2362107#Comment_2362107
It happens to me frequently enough that I wouldn't call it uncommon. I do not know the exact word that wouldn't be an overstatement. But I see it quite often. Maybe one out of five games, or so?
I solo queue, so I honestly don't know how many 4 man SWFs there actually are.
However, as a solo queuer, I might see a 2-3 man SWF once every 10+ games.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2362085#Comment_2362085
The point of BT is for the person who was unhooked to get away more easily, not for both the unhooker and the unhooked to be protected.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2362107#Comment_2362107
I mean, you ended up on the hook, so how bad can they really be?
The initial point of BT was to stop killers from camping/proxy camping. It didn't, so they made it trigger every unhook.
I mean, with killers speed advantage, lunge advatnage, fall advantage, blood lust advange, eventually even the crappy ones will catch you.
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@NekoTorvic said:
I'm honestly at the point where if a survivor that has endurance because of a PNG their teammate equipped disrupts my actions in any way for a millisecond, they're getting tunneled.
If I'm trying to lethal rush the unhoooker and you get in my way because you have BT, make me not get a healthstate, waste rush tokens and go through a cooldown, I'll come right after you and I guarantee that in less than 15 seconds even through DS, you're going back on that hook.
This is one of the few things in this game that makes me irrationally annoyed. I understand BT is a necessary evil, serving as a bit of a deterrent so killers think twice about going for a person off a hook. But if you try to use that ######### aggressively, you better have the skill to actually make use of that second chance.
Don't rush back to the hook. I mean as blight this should be the opposite of your strategy. You literally have some of the best mobility in the game. Why wouldn't you pressure gens and chase survivors away? Why would you waste gen time chasing the same tw people over and over?
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@Hektic3000 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2362085#Comment_2362085
You can take a protection hit with borrowed, nobody has a problem with that. What you can't do is take a hit with borrowed and still claim you're being tunneled if the killer commits to you after....
Why can't you? The killer came back to the hook and gave you no choice. Either you let them down the person who just unhooked you, or you take a hit to protect them and try to get away.
At the end of the day, the hooked and unhooker didn't cause the situation. The killer returning to the hook did.
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@ThiccBudhha said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2362085#Comment_2362085
Nah, tons of people just rush the hook and body block with borrowed. Usually SWF, admittedly, but you aren't proxy camping just because you hit BT. I will give you that the majority of the time, you are correct. But man, you should see how some of these groups play. Lol.
Tons is an overstatement. But I definitely have seen it happen from a 2 or 3 man SWF.
I only solo queue, and 95% of the time, it's a killer coming back to the hook because they aren't good enough to create pressure otherwise.
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@Hektic3000 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2362020#Comment_2362020
Like its not even a skill thing at that point, its smarter to go back to where 2 people are, 1/2 of the survivor team and most likely healing, and put pressure on the survivor closer to death. Whatever gets the killer kills is what's important.
The point I'm making is there are a bunch of killer mains complaining about someone taking a protection hit with Borrowed Time, when the point of ithe perk is to combat proxy camping. Which is why you are even having to hit the person with the status affect in the first place...
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@ThiccBudhha said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2362020#Comment_2362020
I think I would have better luck tracking an animal in the wild than an urban evasion ninja, actually. Not all killer mains were blessed with amazing hunting and gathering skills... It hurts to admit the truth. I cri!
I think 6 total people have used UE in the history of DBD.
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@Warcrafter4 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2361998#Comment_2361998
Because they lead/kept me right back to the hook?
I mean survivors do tend to lure the killer back to the hook or loop around the hook a lot even at red ranks.
There's a lot of normal reasons for why killers are around the hook and its usually the survivor team's fault for causing them.
I keep hearing this from killer mains, yet I sit and watch the killer come back to the hook constantly, even when no one is around or leading them back.
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@MadLordJack said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2362025#Comment_2362025
No, the point of BT is to protect someone from getting camped/tunneled. If the person with BT bodyblocks, they have to be prepared to become the target, especially if the unhooker was healthy. I'd advise running DS if that's your game plan. And it is a solid strategy... But you're not getting tunneled, you invited the killer to target you.
Personally I just tank a hit for the unhooked survivor instead of using BT. Less effective, sure, but it free's up a perk slot and I'm fine being a martyr.
No, the point of BT is to shield the unhooked when the killer is proxy camping the hook. Why would the person with said shield NOT take a protection hit for the person who unhooked them.
It's literally to save both because the killer isn't good enough to leave the hook.
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@MadLordJack said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2362020#Comment_2362020
Bud, I'm a survivor main.
So then you understand the whole point of Borrowed Time is to allow the unhooker time to unhook and get away then?
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@MadLordJack said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2361998#Comment_2361998
Because there's 2 survivors guaranteed to be at the hook, so why keep searching when you know where half your opponents are going to be?
So you admit you're not actually skilled enough to win the game without proxy camping. Good to know.
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Why go back to the hook? There's 2 other survivors in the game...
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If you need to tunnel or camp to get the upper hand, you aren't very good at killer.