Undying_Zombie
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This better not be something minor.. I told you guys not to wake me unless it is an extreme emergency..
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@purebalance said:
@Undying_Zombie said:
@Janick said:
HelloDeep wound, in concept, is to create pressure and waste Survivors time, not to down survivors, similar to Reverse Bear Trap.
Thanks for the feedback.
It does not actually do that in practice though. It needs adjustments. That or the killer needs adjustments in other places to compensate for a power that does not do what its meant to do. As is the killer is way too slow for what he can do. It does not make sense at all that his base movement is 110. ( same as Hag and Huntress )
As is the way the power works currently is a bit buggy. As I know others have pointed out. The only way you guys can fix it is by making it be effected by terror radius instead. There is also almost no time wasted and no risk at all to mend. If its meant to waste time for the survivor it does not do a good job of it at all due to how fast you can do it. When doing it there is no threat as well since the timer stops. ( Something I do not think should happen with how the whole thing currently works. )
Of course this is my opinion from my experience with playing with and against Legion. ( As well as observation of other people playing ) A opinion I know that will be ignored of course.
You shouldn't be able to mend yourself. I'd even be ok if you could mend up to 75% and hold it there until someone finds you, but removing the ability to mend yourself would fix this killer 100%.
This I do agree with and it was one of the things I said in the past during the PTB. ( I also know others who said it. ) I do not see them doing that at all sadly.. and doing what I am asking for is at least the half way point of it.
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@RSB said:
@MegaWaffle said:
@Janick said:
Because getting the first hit is VERY easy, you would then just need to follow the survivor for 30 sec until they go down. We played that version for more than a week internally and it was absolutely terrible. Even Killer felt it was super cheap and unexciting.We also learned this from the Pig Reverse Bear trap.
We also played with the 4.6 speed for a long time and to make him balanced, the power required to be WAY much slower than the current state (with longer cooldowns), this version was considered way less fun to play with and against.
How large is this "We" group you keep mentioning and why does this "We" group decide what is fun and not fun for the rest of the community? Why wasn't there an extended PTB where community ideas where implemented (or the ideas you listed above) where the community at large could test and decide for themselves what felt "fun"?
This is starting to sound like EA when they said "you just don't know what you want".
Edited for spelling error.
This "we" group is probably the same group, that played here:
Watch the gameplay, then cry.
PS. Hear what mattheu says, really good #########, telling a lot how devs treat killers.
What bothers me here is he uses a argument that makes no sense against making good/strong killers. The claim that they would have to make stronger and stronger killers.. IE "A little stronger than Billy, then stronger than that ect" When they could simply.. and this is a shocker here I know.. Make them on par with Billy. Heck on par with Huntress even or Myers. They do not have to make them stronger and stronger.. I really do not get why he was thinking that at all.
( Not to mention the bad gameplay shown but I am letting that slide. )
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There is also the constant "Its fun its fun!" To who? I did not really find it fun that it takes over 5 hits to down someone as Legion. ( Another tiny edit as I forgot to add in the initial hit to put survivor into wounded state. ) -
@Janick said:
HelloDeep wound, in concept, is to create pressure and waste Survivors time, not to down survivors, similar to Reverse Bear Trap.
Thanks for the feedback.
It does not actually do that in practice though. It needs adjustments. That or the killer needs adjustments in other places to compensate for a power that does not do what its meant to do. As is the killer is way too slow for what he can do. It does not make sense at all that his base movement is 110. ( same as Hag and Huntress )
As is the way the power works currently is a bit buggy. As I know others have pointed out. The only way you guys can fix it is by making it be effected by terror radius instead. There is also almost no time wasted and no risk at all to mend. If its meant to waste time for the survivor it does not do a good job of it at all due to how fast you can do it. When doing it there is no threat as well since the timer stops. ( Something I do not think should happen with how the whole thing currently works. )
Of course this is my opinion from my experience with playing with and against Legion. ( As well as observation of other people playing ) A opinion I know that will be ignored of course.
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Small amount more to add.
A item/offering/addon recycler. Allows the player to get rid of unwanted stuff they have picked up on the bloodweb. Now this can be setup to be complex or simple.The Simple. As a example, you have a stack of offerings for and you have 20 of them. You can just recycle 1, 10, or all of them by clicking on it, then click on the recycle button and it will either have a slide or a number thing you can use to recycle the number you want. Then you click confirm and then the amount you wanted to recycle is removed and you gain what ever BP you are supposed to get for recycling.
( The amount can be anywhere from 25% - 100%. What ever you guys, the devs, think is fair. )
The more complex way would be to have a crafting like system where you could reduce the item/offering/addon in question to a sort of resource you can use with others to make a new offering/item/addon that you wanted. Personally I would not go for this one unless you plan on also allowing us to turn this stuff into perks or cosmetics or something. ( The more realistic one between cosmetics and perks would be perks since they are in the bloodweb. )
Perhaps even allow the making of iridescent shards through that crafting system. ( Though it prob wont be cheap/easy with it. )
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@Lowbei said:
The_Fallen_Utopia said:I agree with @Lowbei on this one. I've been rank 1 enough times to see the difference. If anyone thinks rank doesn't matter or is trying to offend him on this then you're clearly too new at this game to have even hit rank 1. There's a reason why so many people derank and that's because higher rank usually means higher challenge. There needs to be rank rewards though so we can truely see who can get there and who is too bad at this game to reach it..
agreed. i think rank rewards are coming as soon as the devs feel the game is fully balanced, but convincing “everyone” that its balanced, ever, will be quite a challenge.
pips should be harder to get, on both sides imo.
Undying_Zombie said:I do have to agree with the OP that the gameplay is a lot different at the higher ranks. Most of the lower rank survivors despite how easy it is for them wont understand how it is for high ranks. Esp for killers. Most of them think its extremely east and that any sort of balance change the killers ask for is just killers wanting 4ks every game. It is frustrating and annoying that his keeps going on... and the devs/mods encourage it too... Sadly.
accurate. the devs need a team of the most experienced vets (not streamers) to help them balance.
While I can say I am a vet... ( I have had this game since release. Also played during the tail end of the beta. ) I wont say that I am all that great. I do not really play Hillbilly,Nurse, or Huntress. Huntress I play more than the other two.. but still.. I mostly play killers like Wraith and Freddy,Myers,Leatherface,Hag.. ( Yea I know I am a oddball ) as well as basically all the other killers ( The ones listed are the ones I probably play more than the others. Wraith and Freddy probably more than the others. Myers is up there too.. )
I do agree that they need to go outside of the dev group and find a decent size amount of the top end players. ( who are not streamers.. Sure some streamers would be fine but most of them are not that great lets be honest. ) I say outside of the dev group due to the fact that.. lets be honest.. Not a single one would do well in the top end. They have a hard time in the low end as is..
Even then in the top end you do see people who should not be there.. But due to the way the game is "balanced" you see people that should not be there.. at all.. Sadly.
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I do have to agree with the OP that the gameplay is a lot different at the higher ranks. Most of the lower rank survivors despite how easy it is for them wont understand how it is for high ranks. Esp for killers. Most of them think its extremely east and that any sort of balance change the killers ask for is just killers wanting 4ks every game. It is frustrating and annoying that his keeps going on... and the devs/mods encourage it too... Sadly.
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@Orion said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
@willcenx
Oh and btw, which streamer did you watch?I cant find any spirit streamers anymore, apparently they all dropped her already.
Can you link the guy you were refering to? Thx
I still stream the Spirit - twitch.tv/blaziken_rjcf
Haven't been able to stream much due to college still being a mess (first 2-3 weeks are always like this, unfortunately), but I'll get back to it ASAP.Ugh yea I missed the bloodhunt sadly due to being in the hospital. Not happy about that at all. Still not feeling well but at least I can get on and play if I want to now lol.
@willcenx said:
I was trying to find the proof btw but I failed. I can't find this stream in my browser history bc I don't remember the title of it and the name of the streamer. So it seems like she really doesn't see blood while using her power and I'm actually blind.You do not remember it because it did not happen. ( Or if it did it was in the PTB when the bug was still there. )
But yea IF you can do what you say please make some videos. A lot of people would love to learn how to play her at the higher ranks as she is not a easy one to play. I P3 her on the PTB ( did not get to P3 level 50 tho as I could no longer stand the long lobby times )> @willcenx said:
@Orion said:
@willcenx said:
@RSB said:
@willcenx said:
@RSB said:
@willcenx said:
@RSB said:
@willcenx said:
@RSB said:
@willcenx said:
@RSB said:
@willcenx said:
@RSB said:
@willcenx said:
@RSB said:
@willcenx said:
RSB said:@willcenx said:
Try to use Predator and Stridor (Bloodhound?). The main idea is to track survs by their scratch marks, moans and blood. It becomes ridiculously easy to do with these perks and decent earphones. Also you can try to mindgame injured surv in the pallet if you want. The thing is, the surv doesn't see you but you can hear them and see their scratch marks and blood. This is a very huge advantage about the Spirit
I think you haven't played the Spirit.
My words sound obvious but actually explain a reliable strategy. You know what? I think ppl should stop complaining about nothing and start getting good. They don't want to learn the new killer, they just want easy win every match. I 4K every game I play using this tactic btw.
If you would play the Spirit, you would know, that she can;t see blood while using her power.
I just said it's possible to track survs by blood using Bloodhound, but I don't run it at all and prefer Stridor instead. I know she is not able to see the blood by default. Bet there was a misunderstanding.
"The main idea is to track survs by their scratch marks, moans and blood.", "The thing is, the surv doesn't see you but you can hear them and see their scratch marks and blood. This is a very huge advantage about the Spirit.", no, there was no misunderstanding, you were just lying and now you are retreating. Stop pretending that you play her, because you do not even know how she works.
And who knows? Maybe you? Dude you are very funny. Everyone knows how she works, but not everyone plays her the way devs want her to be played like. All ppl can do is complain and ask for buffs, because MAN IT'S NOT EZZZZZ TO PLAY HER ANOTHER TRASH KILLER GOOD JOB SO FAR
Don;t dodge, like a typical survivor. You got catched on your lie, and you went batshit.
This becomes kinda boring. Maybe you want at least tell me where I lied?
Read my previous comments, the same ones, that you quoted.
It's really hard to explain you where you're wrong in foreign language (in english in this case) but I'm still gonna try to.
I played the Spirit for around 20 hours already and know how she works. Her ability allows her to track survivor movements by scratch marks, moans and even blood (if you run Bloodhound). So, I have no idea what makes you think that I'm lying (really, where am I doing this? xD) and 'pretending to play her'. She is good at where she is now, but I don't mind some tweaks here and there. I don't want other killers be, as you said, weak. Guess you're thinking that I'm one of these 'dirty survivor mains' but I'm actually not. I main both sides
I've played Spirit for ~30 hours in PTB, now I have her P3-50 with all perks, spend next ~30 hours on her, and she is weak.
Also your lies discredited all your further arguments.
I don't ask you how much time you spent playing Spirit, I ask you where I am lying and still wait for the answer. But I see you're ridiculously stubborn. Well, it seems like I will never know. How disappointing
I sais check out the comment, where I pointed out where you were lying, but you are still pretending "ooooo, waiting where I was lying ;<<<<".
Sorry, maybe I'm blind, but I can't find any lies on my side. I just posted my own harmless guide in the topic 'Spirit Guides' and then I was accused of lying. I didn't even argue anything, but you say 'my lies discredit all my arguments'. Lmao, what... You have so narrow perception of word 'lie'. Such feeling that even you don't know now why you accused me of lying.
My god, do I really need to copy it for you again?
"The main idea is to track survs by their scratch marks, moans and blood.", "The thing is, the surv doesn't see you but you can hear them and see their scratch marks and blood. This is a very huge advantage about the Spirit.",
You pretend you play Spirit, and "4k everytime", but in fact you don't. If you would, you would know that she can't see blood. But you heard that she can see blood (she copuld in PTB), and you did not know it got fixed. You, instead, saw that reasonable people want her to be buffed, because she is weak, so you, and many others, started to pretending like if she is good, because "you can 4k everytime with her", which is a lie, because you don't even know how she works. And if you do not even know how she works, therefore you can't "play her".
I said I know she can't see blood (only with BH, which I also mentioned), but you replied to it with 'no misunderstanding, you're still lying'. Considering this, all your further thoughts automatically become irrelevant. But you're still saying I'm lying. Good job m8, you can continue if you want.
Are you playing on PC? I'd like to test BH, see if you're for real.
I saw someone used BH on his stream and it worked, blood became as bright as it was on the PTB, but I have never run BH, I use Stridor instead because I prefer it more.
I think you need this.
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EDIT I forgot I already replied LOL. Will leave this here anyway!
What do I think? She needs a lot of work. I already mentioned it in the suggestions part of the forum. Though I did forget to mention her base speed needs to be on par with the normal killers and not the same as Hag. Her power is not good enough to warrant it.Even if it gets the buffs I have mentioned it still would not warrant the lower speed. She has major issues that need to be addressed but I have a bad feeling she wont. Devs are too afraid to make a decent killer by the way they talked. I am really hoping a new game will come up and tear me away from DBD with the way the devs are handling this mess of theirs.
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No. Legacy prestige came and went due to how bad the original blood web was. Those that suffered through it and prestige got to get legacy when they changed the bloodweb. No one will get it anymore. Period. The devs have said this several times.
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She is not supposed to see the blood right now, that is a bug. So no it does not when in spirit form. It does work outside of it though. Its hard to test it with the addon due to the bug. To be honest I feel she should see the blood in her base kit and that addon should show survivor auras that are in a short range when in spirit form since its a ultra rare. Just my opinion anyway.
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I would say in her current state she is neither. She needs some work. There are things I put in the suggestion forum that she needs and then she would be a good killer that could potentially be at Hillbilly level or close to it. I just doubt the devs will want to do it due to what they have said about killers now.
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@PigNRun said:
Frockz551 said:I'm not quite sure what Leatherface's music would be but yes, would be a cool addition.
"Yummy, yummy, yummy, I got love in my tummy"
LOL. Well I think it depends on what movie they pull it from. Each one has its own music. Sadly unlike the other movie killers so far he does not have one specific type of music. So he would be the hardest one for them to do something with.. But its still doable even for him.
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@MyFreddyIsBae said:
Oh, I mean, he is an italian that made a video with english subs. (The video is called "banned from dbd") and in that video he explains that he doesnt know why he got banned.. But he made a live 2 weeks later where he explains that he got unbanned.
(that live is in italian, I didnt tell you the name for that reason xD)Well if that is true then that was an exception. I have yet to see a ban that was not deserved when it comes to this game.. Or most other games for that matter. Now I have seen a few unjust bans on old Half-Life games on the old WON system but not a lot.
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@Number 4
No they wont. Its for testing in PTB, everything earned there is lost and overwritten by your main save after X amount of time. I do not know the specific time. I do know they snapshot your main account save and slap it on PTB. Mine for example was snapshotted I think 1 day or so due to missing levels/perks/BP/ect. ( My main right now is maxed on BP/Shards and I have a lot more levels back up on one of my prestige characters. ) -
I have a bad feeling that getting shards will take forever eventually due to the level system. The level reset will take away some of that pain but I do not think it will do much unless leveling is still fast even at level 90.
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Far as I am aware of they have not really mentioned why it had to go down but they did bring it down due to them supposedly making a new system.. When they could simply just keep the current system going while they get the new one up..
Its rather dumb in my opinion but that is what they are doing and that is why we are getting a lot more cheaters/hackers/exploiters. They know they can get away with it right now and its really causing problems. Though the funny thing is even twitch streamers are doing it and they do not realize they can get their twitch account banned for doing it XD.
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Tech speaking the totems are like a secondary objective. Same with saving other survivors. That said I do feel something needs to be done. You really feel the issue the higher rank you go. Ruin becomes mandatory and its easily destroyed.
Having parts you have to find might be interesting. I have seen people suggest this on the old forums as well as a few other places. The devs are mostly survivor players and they play low ranks.. So I doubt they see the issue as much as we do.. Due to that I doubt anything will be done.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbIR51_J_qYI think this fits perfectly. ( Cartman new killer? :P )
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I personally do not like doing it. However if I feel in the situation I have to I will. For example if the gates are powered and I have someone on a hook. Odds are I am going to keep that person on the hook and camp them. Not always but a decent amount of time I will.
There are also times when people just swarm the hook. I do not consider that camping when I am not able to leave due to how the survivors are playing.. But some people do consider it camping so I am listing this. Do not give me a chance to leave the hook? Then that is on the survivors for not trying to be stealthy at all.
Then there are those who lead me back to the hooked player while I am chasing them.. Its like.. ######### you doing, you are killing that hooked person you know that right? XD
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Far as I am aware of once you are perma banned that is it. It would take extraordinary evidence to clear your name on it. Also making alt accounts is considered evading a ban and can get that account banned if you do so. ( Like a few choice youtubers/twitch players who I shall not name. The devs already know and have banned a few of their accounts.. Even hardware banned one of them.. and that person keeps coming lol. )
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STARS!
Err I mean.. That would prob be a lot of money. Capcom is not exactly a nice company to deal with from what I understand. But I admit I would love to see a Tyrant or better yet.. Nemesis.... But I will be honest in the fact that I do not see it happening. Mostly due to I have a feeling it will either have a huge cost to it or Capcom simply will refuse no matter what.
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I do like the perk but it could use some adjustments. A lot of killers simply can not use it at all and I think that should change. As it stands though I feel its only really good on Wraith, and Hillbilly. I can not remember at the moment if its good or not on Leatherface XD but those are the two that come to mind when I think of the perk.
I mean it is also good on Huntress but Wraith it feels like its a must at times.. That is something I find to be sad..
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To me.. He is.. Alright I guess. Solid mid tier killer ( though I would put him on the lower end of mid tier unless you use some specific addons. )
He could use some buffs that is for sure. But I really doubt they will. They do not seem to want to make high tier killers anymore like Hillbilly an Nurse. Ones I feel that all killers should be at level wise.
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Personally I feel IF the killer manages to kill all survivors they should be able to keep their addons. But that is just my opinion on the matter. ( And yes only if they kill all 4. This would encourage killers to try to kill them all and give them a way to keep some of their stuff like survivors can. )
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I would like some unique music for the killers. Freddy does have it to a point but not like it really should. Same with Huntress. I think killers like Myers and the Clown really could use their own music for terror radius.. Hell all of them do I feel.
But I really doubt they will ever do such a thing. It would require a bit of work and perhaps also trying to get permission when it comes to licensed killers.
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I think I am more in favor of a system that allows killers to have special perks that only works on people who are in SWF. This is due to the fact that I doubt the devs can handle balancing both a casual mode and a ranked mode based off of their history.