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I do have ideas on why he is so aggressive and why the entity might want him to be a survivor instead of a killer, but I'll spare it this time and just say he likely went through a lot of ######### which might have enforced a natural will for control and hope in surviving whatever he does which could be perfect for the entity. As much as I remember the entity feeds on hope and likes its survivors suffering and David has no means to want anyone innocent to get killed. Somewhere ingame I think I've read he rather likes to protect "the smaller guys" which are survivors in this case.
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@RaSavage42 said:
If the game were to go through a re-design then it would be fair to say....
1) Toxic behavior will still be in the game... It's a PvP game also it's a 4V1 at that
2) Game balance will improve cause they don't have to fight against their own coding (Blocked Gens used to regress Gens but as soon as they announce the Gen blocking perk for Survivors they had to go away from that)
3) They can get more specific with things... Perks can be further spread out... Like taking out the information aspect of Call Of Brine and putting that on Surveillance... making things better overall without fear of coding things poorly
4) Fixing things will become easier cause things aren't connected anymore
It didn't answer my questions but I agree. Add competetive to 1) too. It will never be completely peaceful, after all it's killers chasing survivors. It however could reduce toxicity if some buttons were to be pressed on both sides.
About 2), yes, absolutely! I can tell from experience. I was trained to be a programmer and when my code was simply not that good (at the start of my training) or too complex it would happen too. I dunno how Behaviour works and all but the potential to make it easier for them to fix things and balance things out is given if they think it thro and rewrite.
3) Or go with another idea regarding perks. This community surely has some creative minds too. Combining ideas that would be positive for both killers and survivors could be an option too.
4) Even if they programmed their pieces object oriented it still is in some form connected. Maybe they used the wrong design pattern or the communication in the team was not ideal. Maybe some of the programmers and other employees were privately busy when they described or implemented the concept. There's seemingly endless possibilities regarding this and we will never know until someone from the occasional playerbase steps into BHVRs script basement head quarters and checks it out. But even then chances are high they are required to keep things a little more discreet.
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@TeabaggingGhostface OMG YES! I would love to participate in on that!
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@Shroompy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3281343#Comment_3281343
im kidding lol
im a hispanic boy with curly hair aint no way some ones getting fooled by that
Also since you provided me this info
I'm that caucasian guy with brown straight hair usually cut short to a crew cut or undercut.
You can expect me smoking a cigar around the corner in a ginnel when it's dark. Throw a knife at me and I throw a pallet. Or some empty beer bottles lol
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@Shroompy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3281343#Comment_3281343
im kidding lol
im a hispanic boy with curly hair aint no way some ones getting fooled by that
I was joking too. Should I have been using a :D smiley?
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@tippy2k2 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3280449#Comment_3280449
While I absolutely agree that this alone is very unlikely to fix someone, we see this all the time the other direction and given the father's reaction to the shooting (If you haven't seen it, the cliff notes is that he was horrified...that it might have meant that his son was gay), this particular shooter may have not been savable. But we see this kind of thing all the time with Racism and Sexism and whatnot where sometimes a kid/teen sees a video from some crazed dude spouting about how X is evil and they fall down the rabbit hole. Very few people just become horribly racist/sexist/uh...gayist? What would be the word for this against gay/lesbian people? Anyway, very few people start off at 100, they have something that sparks them and it builds from there. Something like this, while a tiny little baby step of a baby step, could just as easily be the beginning of the rabbit hole for someone else.
It's never going to be something we can objectively quantify because how do you quantify the tiny butterfly flap that might be the first steps to someone being a kind and caring person vs a crazed person who decides SOMEONE has to take action against those evil groomers but if it even stops one person from taking that path, it's 100% worth it.
(then this isn't even getting into those situations where someone raised in a "NO SON OF MINE IS GOING TO BE GAY!!!!!!!!" households where they might feel a little less alone to see a story like David's and decide that maybe it's not so bad to be different)
I agree with you there. And since the new day has already started I better get some sleep and have a butty and brew before commenting anymore.
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@Shroompy said:
yeah im ngl some of these I dont really see myself...
but I 100% look like Trickster no cap
Can I convince you to prank a friend?
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@OniWantsUrLocation Dead easy to answer for me. What it is, right. I was sent the link at some point and saved it on my computer in a .txt file with some comments, probably in the early 2020s. And I found this recently while "cleaning out" my hard drive. Doesn't matter anyway.
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@tippy2k2 said:
A gunman went into a LGBTQ nightclub last night and killed five people before patrons were able to overpower them if anybody is still wondering why representation matters...
It wouldn't have changed anything if the favourite series character of that man turned out to be gay or lesbian, would it? I don't believe in media representation being anywhere profound if it's not real people. It's more like a tool box add-on. It can fix one and then gets useless.
Historically speaking, hatred of gays has its roots in the Middle Ages, when church members misused an excerpt from the Old Testament because they were disgusted by same-sex love. Basically, such people are the problem and you can't change them either. They have grown up with such bullshit. It would be more important to actively teach children openness in real life and to actively defend those who are victims of violence. A cartoon won't change much, just like any other artificially designed media representation.
It may just be me, the cigar or the ale speaking but the only reason for me to accept myself as I am was a friend I had a dead close connection to. He was just himself. The word gay never fell, even tho he was into men. He'd just do his thing and respect other people while doing so. Real people do the real change. We need to get rid of religion based gender role ideals.
Anyways, sad news. May whoever died that day rest in peace. I hope the gunman got thrown into the locker after being interrogated and psychological observated. Can't understand how someone can be so narcissistic that they think they have the authority to end someone else's life.
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This might be an old thread but I really don't see were these people fit the characters. It's like people claiming I look like Ace when in fact I'm not even close. Even young Bruce Willis has a fair share of differences. Adam and Will Smith? And Jeff is Hagrid from Harry Potter, eh? This gave me a good laugh to be fair, so I couldn't restist to post. Maybe I looked at the wrong photos tho.
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Ein Erlebnis ist es mittlerweile nur noch höchst selten, egal aus welcher Sicht man es sieht.
Ja, ist leider echt so. Hab deswegen weitgehend aufgehört zu spielen. Hat auch sonst keiner mehr aus dem Freundeskreis Lust zu spielen und Solo ist es einfach nicht mehr das, was es mal war. Da spiele ich lieber Rugby '22.... Aber jedem natürlich seins. Es ist zumindest gelegentlich mal ganz okay. Wenn man das Update ausblendet und die nervigen oder sogar toxischen Mitspieler... -_-
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Ich bin echt kein Fan von Ghostface, aber das Gemobbe in dem Spiel finde ich auf beiden Seiten schrecklich, wenn es denn auftritt. egal von welcher Seite. Und gerade weil ich Survivor Main bin und gerne mit fairen Killern spiele, ist ein solches Verhalten "aus den eigenen Reihen" unverantwortlich. Da kann ich dann auch absolut nachvollziehen, wenn man dann eben den "bösen" Killer spielt. Blackbird263 hat hier eigentlich schon genug gesagt. Wenn sie sich so verhalten....
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Vor allem der Nerf vom Eisernen Willen nervt mich ziemlich. Ich spielte oft nur mit Davids Perks, habe aber immer mal wieder Eiserner Wille und Unbeugsam als Alternative zu Kein Gejammer genutzt. Lohnt sich ja nicht, in einer Runde voller Megs mit einer Warnweste durchs Spiel zu laufen, die dem Killer sagt, dass man ein One Hit ist und eh wieder aufsteht, wenn er einen downt.
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I used it in the beginning to learn from the disadvantages and found it fun in parts, but now I prefer to use Iron Will and Unbreakable when playing alone or when there is at least one random. I hate dcs.
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Let on, Wrecked. I read your post again today and decided to leave a nice word (and a little reaction) anyway. After all, it was one of the few posts that didn't cause me any anger outbursts at all. Quite the opposite. I think I understand ye. That is something that I 've actually been missing for a while. I 've once again been at war with my own ranks since the twenty-seventh of April and have finally reached the point of becomin more rational and understandin again. I think it has somethin to do with people who don't push and complain about representation, who just insult strangers because they have different opinion and all that. I perceived your post as grateful to BHVR, nothing more. And your experience made me remember some things. I think that if no one like me (people who still ride on two roads) really admits it, then at least I want to voice that here. After all, it is no secret that there are many different sides to the same experience.
To cut a long story short: It's a pity that there are people who would treat you differently only on your sexuality. That can put quite a bit of pressure on you and can definitely shatter an otherwise positive mood for somethin that you like, I know from my own experience. And I'm happy for you that you don't let yourself be put in a cage anymore. Honestly, I'm a bit jealous - personal trainer sounds mint. To be completely honest, somehow your post motivated me in some way to approach things differently.
I've always seen representation as a guide on how to recognise certain less obvious groups of people and it gave me stomach cramps to know that someone similar to me now also belongs in that "how to recognise xy" directory. I won't compare myself here, it's of no importance in this comment. Doesn't matter anyways and I don't mither. My point's I've screwed up quite a bit for myself. Didn't want to be pigeonholed with colourful canaries as well, without wantin to attack anyone here. This was, simply put, the wrong way to go. Seein it as a bad thing, just like a few other old-fashioned blockheads. And above all, to see only those well-hated entrenched extravagant extremes of stereotypes. I've never perceived representation to have any real benefit for individuals, say, in the way you present it, as sort of an fictional figure to help accept who you are. I'd prefer a few beers and a heart-to-heart with my best friend. But then, that's just me.
To each his own, I'm simply not the type to talk openly about it outside the internet. It's nobody's bloody business anyway. That doesn't change the fact that I misbehaved, in one way or another. Maybe not necessarily here and it just doesn't matter, but I want to say thank you for being open about your experience and all and apologise to anyone who has met me here or elsewhere in unfortunate circumstances. I am curious to see who will share memories in the lore next and how it will be implemented.
....If even one person holds it against me, however, I will drop in and it will be uncomfortable. I swear down!
Laters, guys.
Oh, and thanks for readin. It got a bit lengthy and hopefully not a pain in the arse to read.
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If I bring anything at all, it might be my set o tools.
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I used it in the beginning to learn from the disadvantages and found it fun in parts, but now I prefer to use Iron Will and Unbreakable when playing alone or when there is at least one random. I hate dcs.
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Regardless of the previous speakers (because I didn't mither to read all that just yet. It's not far from a new day over here): it is definitely valid as soon as there is no other option for the killer towards the end of the half. But getting knocked down right at the beginning of a round, only to be slugged that yes, maybe a teammate will be lured in, and then being facecamped? That is worth zero waiting time. Let that happen a couple of trials and I go kick some sorry arses...
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A friend suggested it to me and raved about it, but even though it looks interesting, I'll wait and hear or read what the players have to say about it when the time comes. I have bad spending habits as it is. Shouldn't buy random games if the possibility of regretting it is still given. Also having it on Steam sounds better for me. I don't want to install any other stuff on my computer.
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Caleb's Snake Oil indeed sounds interesting. I'd try that. Or some Ink. Hope it's no cheap hooch.
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I might be a little late, but I don't particularly give a bloody d*mn. I'm maining David King because we happen to have some things in common. He was one of the first characters I played, along with Bill, and I only use others when archive tasks require it. I don't care how loud or quiet he is. Just makes it more interesting when you sh*t on it.
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Soll man jetzt raten, was das Perk kann?
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@Splinterverse said:
The only one I couldn't would be Claudette, because I wouldn't be able to find her.
Haha, yeah. The first to not be found anywhere but in the tall grass. IF ya find her at all.
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it’s not wrong but on the other hand, it’s kinda never expected for heterosexuality to be revealed. I mean, have you ever heard of someone coming out as straight?
It may not be an everyday situation, but I certainly have. In the course of a few people's self-discovery, I witnessed how one or the other had to question everything completely individually to find out that it was heterosexuality after all, or something they actually already knew beforehand. And I think the people I met there are not the only ones. It would be funny if I had just caught those among the world's population. How likely is that? xD Although one of them actually didn't notice it in a phase of self-discovery, but simply had a "gay phase". If I don't count him, there are still quite a few of the thousands of people with whom I have already had personal contact. With too well-known personalities, however, I have to keep quiet about it. I would never have actively noticed that someone had to come out as not gay.
And even then, it’s not really set in stone, David might still later on in his life discover more aspects of himself and his sexuality. Him being gay was a significant part of his story, he isn’t bi, he had to pretend to like women.
This is definitely a part I would only accept with a raised eyebrow. He wasn't gay before, he became gay through the developments that Behaviour and GaymerX chose for him so that Behaviour could iron out something that a few people were upset about. (Side note: Of course you don't become gay, you find out. With fictional characters it's the same in their minds, though if it's on the outside looking in in some minds, including mine, it doesn't count if they haven't given any hints of it beforehand. Then anyone could claim anything. My conflict with the situation is that you can definitely tell when you're adjusting a character overnight based on some lengthy round of discussion in one direction or another.).
I really wonder where he is supposed to have really actively pretended to like women when he shouldn't based on the announcement. The scene where he's drunk off his ass bragging about Jasmine might as well just be dismissed as if she wasn't his in character. After all, we just learn that she's good looking, and that's what he seems to repeat over and over again. That she is good looking and has just looked at him instead of any other guy. I read somewhere that he is reasonably smart. He should come up with something better and more credible than just raving about it, should he really try to deceive others here. Even when he's totally drunk, he can do it, I bet.
I'll definitely read the rest of the lore, maybe I'll understand you then, but what I had read so far doesn't really convince me at the moment.
I also made extra screenshots of the lore so that I can read it without starting the game. I'll read the rest and maybe change my mind, who knows.
Also, your criticism of the announcement is still valid, i wasn’t trying to completely invalidate it or say you are wrong. I just tried to find reasonable arguments for their approach but as I have said I am not 100 percent behind it either.
Don't worry, I didn't interpret it as such an attempt. I simply wrote what was on my mind and I'm happy every time I read a totally normal, different opinion.
I may have already mentioned it somewhere, but on other platforms, every now and then people with different opinions than those who agree unconditionally or don't even question are directly insulted, blocked and reported. Here it's peaceful ground - apart from the perpetual "war" between "The survivors are just crying and are the toxic ones" and "The killers are camping and then wonder why they get butt dances?!" groups.
I don't accuse anyone of anything unless they give me a good reason to do so. :D
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you mean sharing, why I think they made this extra announcement?
Exactly, because somehow I understood parts of it, but I don't really see it as coherent.
well. First of all, it’s their first revealed LGBTQ+ character in the game since the start in 2016
It is, however, even if many would have expected something completely different. However, it still wouldn't have needed this sweeping speech, would it?
for the longest time they have stated they didn’t want to reveal sexual orientations and the likes. Though they didn’t hold true to that as they have at least mentioned heterosexual relationships of various natures multiple times since Nurses introduction thus they kinda excluding LGBTQ+ content and treating it differently to heterosexual content.
Is it wrong to note at this point that they have not really revealed any sexual orientation? I mean, apart from existing spouses and relationships that used to exist, but that doesn't really mean anything.
That was one of the parts of the discussion that I couldn't really understand. They've only really announced and confirmed David, and no one knows if they're not going to develop into a different sexuality.
Whereas I can understand that it is a bit, let's say unfair, that there were no same-sex relationships or polyamorous relationships with both sexes in all this time.
So yes, they haven't fully complied.
Then almost two years ago they made an announcement that they have reviewed their stand on this as they have seen and regret their mistake here.
I can understand that. Especially when there was a lot of whining about it in the meantime. It must have been annoying. I mean, that's what someone says who belongs somewhere in this matter, but who is relatively indifferent to it. So, I don't know how people felt about it, I just thought it was over the top. But of course, they didn't adhere to what they stated before one hundred per cent and expressed remorse for it and said that they were doing something about it so that there would be equality again.
After that they have announced they are collaborating with GaymerX to make sure their first representation won’t be a stereotypical or bad representation and they don’t make unintentional mistakes of any sorts.
For example, I only found out about it after it was announced and was a bit sceptical because I hadn't heard many good things about this organisation. My first thought at the time was that they could have sought the opinions and experiences of the community independently of an official organisation. But that would probably have been too much effort, in retrospect. I mean, you would have to rummage around in LGBTQ+ forums and statistically analyse what the whole crowd would have said there. I wouldn't have relied on the opinion of self-proclaimed experts, but well, what I've heard clearly plays into it.
In that context, though, I can understand it. If they themselves have no one who can offer them experience in the field, or only insufficient experience, then it is clear that they turn to someone or, in that sense, to an organisation that has experience in this.
Now i see their reveal as a follow up to these announcements and as a way to showcase the results of their collaboration. Also it’s the best way to even acknowledge that they worked with GaymerX on this, otherwise they couldn’t really acknowledge or appreciate their collaboration!
Makes more sense to me now. If they had just published something, the organisation would have disappeared and one could have wondered where the collaboration was.
I have to admit at this point that I only ever heard bits and pieces of it and was therefore always a bit confused and didn't understand it and therefore always assumed that it wasn't quite what it was supposed to be. Reading it again summarised in this way has definitely helped me in my understanding of the matter and in forming my opinion. I think I should stop questioning my opinion towards Behaviour, only that of people who have shown their excessive joy about this announcement in inappropriate ways. Many thanks for that.
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i am on mobile so maybe on desktop it’s a little bit different.
It is, indeed. I was looking for the symbol at the bottom of the input field, but it was on the left side all the time. Exactly where I could not have seen it according to my current state, wonderful... But now it has been cleared up. Thanks anyway. I would probably never have identified the symbol as what it actually is, if I had even consciously seen it on my own.
oh well. Wishing you the best with whatever you are going through and hope everything turns out fine in the end!
If I can say one thing, it would be a miracle if it really turned out even only sound in the end. But I've to expect that it gets screwed up like vomit in a bucket full of thioacetone, wheverever it comes from, after ten pints of expired donkey piss that has been standing open for years. I practically provoked it, even though I didn't give a bloody sh*t at the time. Would be chuffed if karma wouldn't be a mingebag. Well, I hope your wish comes true. I have absolutely no interest in any more Mr Robot kind of drama. Oops, my bad habit again. I really should control myself and get less upset while writing.
First of all I pretty much agree with you on almost everything about inclusion/representation you wrote here. Especially that announcement of David being gay I personally didn’t find needed - but I do understand to some degree why they did it this way.
I sometimes wish I had at least that idea. Maybe then I would be less negative/critical/whatever about it. Do you mind sharing a little bit?
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I apologise in advance if my answer is confused or does not make sense. I tried my best but sleeping pills, tranquillisers, antipsychotics and more are ######### with my head right now, on top of a cold turkey alcohol withdrawal and a few rather uncomfortable encounters. But enough about my private life. Just take note of that and take into account that I'm just not up to it right now. I still wanted to answer. There is never a perfect moment. And I'm not going to wait for a better opportunity.
@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2953650#Comment_2953650
If the characters had simply remained ambivalent, everyone would have thought their piece.
ambivalence wasn’t really a thing even though they said it was their intention. There have been several explicit heterosexual relationships been in the lore of some characters and as you can already derive from all the feedback, just having girlfriend mentioned in one single sentence it was assumed David was straight. Keep in mind even if David was revealed to be gay in his tome story there is still the possibility he isn’t ‚just‘ gay, sexualities aren’t set in stone, people can figure out additional aspects of their sexualities later in their lives even if they think they have figured themselves out already. David might be bi, or pan, or gay, or maybe even straight but he actually is one of those people that had a ‚gay phase‘ (Even though that is something they really shouldn’t write about in their lore). head canons can still be whatever, nothing changed in that regard nor will it ever. With David’s reveal we are now just at the start of equal treatment. Future LGBTQ+ additions/reveals will (hopefully) not be announced like David.
I see what you mean. Nevertheless, precisely because many homosexuals first had to find out that they don't particularly like opposite-sex relationships - in a good or rather bad way - one should not assume that just because David had a girlfriend that this necessarily means he must be heterosexual. I definitely perceived this as an attempt at amibalence as some questions were kept unanswered and not as an exclusion. And if it had been an exclusion, it would have affected me just as much. Not that I'd mither about such things too much, but yeah. After all, it doesn't say in the lore that it was a good, happy and healthy relationship. Neither that, nor why it really ended.
Some people are kind of petty about stuff like that, I get a fit of aggression and would love to be another problem in their lives. One with consistency. I don't want to come across as a ruffian, but I can only shake my head and I just had to get that off my chest. People who suddenly stand in the corner in a huff because of such trifles... It really could have been worse. It's just a relationship. How many relationships does it take to be truly happy and know who you want by your side for life? ....
I hope BHVR will recognise this opportunity and take it. After all, they have even created the space to do so. One of his cosemetics says that he is not very mature in terms of relationships and such. For me, this means that he still has some experiences to make before he really knows what he truly wants and how to be in a relationship. At least that's how I understood it. However, I must admit that my interpretation skills are not the best anymore.
I definitely agree with you that they shouldn't close it as a phase. Otherwise the tables will turn. Then possibly those who were annoyed by the "gayvid (is ours - forever - mfs stfu and do one)" scream grouping will go after them with malicious intent.... Twitter, Youtube, reddit, etc. Some stuff happened in real life very close to where I live. It's madness. People just don't make sense. It's a fitctional character of a game....
I only really thought about the headcanons for the first few hours after the announcement. If someone feels offended by my or other authors works, he or she should just not read them - that' s it! Problem solved! The problem I encounter again and again, however, is people who care a lot about the canon. If it doesn't match the canon, it's not good enough. I already ignore these people, but I'm quite a hothead and easily irritated if people get on my nerves often enough. Sometimes I just wish there was a finger-break button next to the Upvote or Like functions.😂
While I'm not entirely sure what this kind of equality is supposed to do in a game like Dead By Daylight, as long as they don't overdo it or write it too out of character, I'm fine with it. I have to admit, though, that the new lore has left me with a slightly queasy stomach. Haven't had a chance to read it all yet though (I got to the part where he was beaten up by his "fan"s group), so I won't judge. It's not badly written, but still kind of unpleasant to read. That's all I'll say about that.
They should not have announced anything concrete at all. My suggestion, which is a bit late now, would have been that they release new lore for different characters in which this theme creeps in (and doesn't become a coming out lore like some people believe David's new lore is rn.....) and only when enough lore has been written could they officially announce that LGBTQ+ people are "hiding" among the original characters and players can find them if they do archive tasks. Of course, that would have taken more time and wouldn't have dealt with the paywall issue very elegantly, unless they had a new free character in mind that wasn't designed exclusively for that issue. And another problem would be that too many characters at once should not "get it" either. That would come across just as badly as some found this announcement. My idea is certainly not ideal, but on the one hand it would have made players aware of the fact that this topic also occurs among the new lore entries, for free as well as DLC characters, there would then also not only be one character that would be specially highlighted for this and you could make a kind of game in the game out of it. But that was just a spontaneous thought on my part.
Btw Mooks, how did you do the single line quote? Haven't found this out and it could make my answer more readable if I can quote to the parts of your reply to whom I was refering in my answer. It could serve that way in general. Thanks in advance if you can give me any tips. And for the fact that you will probably read this.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2935911#Comment_2935911
That announcement was mostly a follow up to the announcement almost two years ago and the collaboration with GaymerX. For the sexuality/sexual/romantic relationship of other characters already present (which are all heterosexual), an announcement wasn’t needed because they were never excluded from the game beforehand and people don’t start to search for whatever the devs did wrong when those were added.
even if there wasn’t an announcement (which was just a tweet among hundreds and one blog entry that you can just ignore) people would still have complained about this inclusion. Eg „they tried to make it as silent as possible because they don’t actually care and just threw it in to appease the woke community“. It was a lose-lose situation really.
The fact is, you can't please everyone. And you shouldn't try to.
As you wrote, if they had kept completely silent, the woke community would be pissed off. And I'm sure you, or anyone in general, realised how much trouble it caused - at least a hint of it - to announce it like that. At least I just brazenly assume that. I just listened in the silence and secrecy of the fog. Even people of the same sexuality or identity puke on each other. It's not funny. It's nice that it has at least died down. Well, I suppose it has.
Nobody may have asked, but they shouldn't have wasted time working on something like that. Because, as you said, it's not a win-win situation. Maybe you get more players in the lobby for a limited time, some of whom are really quite weird, but that's it. At least that's my experience.
If the characters had simply remained ambivalent, everyone would have thought their piece. Then there are people who take the character and skin descriptions or lore as an indication of a certain sexuality and talk about it as if there were nothing more important, and others who are not interested, who read the stories because they show the character in action - if they even do read the lore. This does not require the disclosure of sexuality.
I am sure people would react differently if it were about a real person. It's not, but I wanted to put it out there.
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@C3Tooth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2932829#Comment_2932829
Shes the Flappy Mommy.
Oh, damn! Why didn't I see that?! I was thinking she looked so familiar. Now I feel dumb lol. Thatnks for telling me.
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@ThatOneDemoPlayer said:
Artist has been my favorite female Killer since her release
Mine too. If she'd be added to the poll I'd even vote her. But she isn't so she'll be my secret killer friend in my head because of her ways.
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Ich spiele zu 98% David King, meistens fast komplett nur mit seinen Perks, außer Kein Gejammer. Dafür benutze ich dann doch lieber Eiserner Wille und Unbeugsam und vezichte auf das dicke Blut. Aktuell spiele ich aber mit diesen Perks:
- Eiserner Wille
- Städtische Umgehung
- Hart im Nehmen
- Je nachdem, ob ich alleine oder im Team spiele oder was meine täglichen Rituale oder Archivaufgaben sind: Unbeugsam (ist bei mir aktuell drin), Geliehene Zeit, Zurückgelassen, Ausgewogene Landung, Plündererspürsinn, etc.
Es gibt einige Perks wie Selbstheilung oder Kalter Rückenschauer, die ich nur zu Beginn verwendet habe. Die meisten Perks habe ich nie benutzt, nur erworben, um sie zu haben, sollte ich sie für eine Aufgabe brauchen.
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@Blackbird263 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/de/discussion/comment/2918519#Comment_2918519
da stimme ich nicht zu. Das T-Baggen ist ein Mittelfinger des Survivors zum Killer und ein sich-lustig-machen von wegen "Ah, du Opfer, kriegst mich niemals hahahahaha", genau DAS bedeutet das Tbaggen, nicht umsonst machen es viele direkt nach einem Palettenstun.
Aber kann mir mal einer erklären, wieso ich als Killer immer diejenigen bekomme, die einfach ALLES tun um einen gehängten Surv zu befreien, selbst wenn ich noch da bin? Und wenn ich SURVIVOR spiele, dann habe ich nur Lappen drin, die mich da hängen lassen. -.- so ein Bullshit das Spiel mittlerweile, nur noch Bullshit. Und wofür? Für den Dauer-Grind, jeden Char hochzuleveln und bei jedem alle Perks freizuschalten, nur noch dafür macht mans, nicht mehr für eine spaßige spannende Runde, denn sowas gibt es schon lange nicht mehr in DBD.
Teabaggen kann aber auch Danke heißen, Survs gegenüber Survs und Survs gegenüber Killern - wobei letzteres schon seltener ist. Zumindest kenne ich einige, die den Killer nicht teabaggen, um ihn zu verärgern, sondern weil er fair gespielt hat oder sie sogar hat gehen lassen, wenn die Runde unglücklich gelaufen ist. Immer mal wieder gefolgt von einem "thx killer". Natürlich ist es eindeutiger, wenn drei Survivor mit Taschenlampe um den Killer herumrennen und ihn die ganze Zeit über blenden.
Vielleicht sollte es Mal eine Art inoffiziellen internationalen Teabag-Morsecode geben, damit man das besser unterscheiden kann und man das nicht falsch interpretiert.
Das mit dem Abhängen habe ich gestern erst wieder erfahren. Passiert zwar nicht ständig, ich bin Survivor Main, aber es passiert und ich kann verstehen, dass dich das stört. Dafür wartet man schließlich nicht so lange auf eine Runde. Vielleicht liegt das an der persönlichen Einschätzung der Survivor gegenüber dem Killer. So blöd wie es klingt, wenn du fair gespielt hast und das Pech hattest, mit Überlebenden zu spielen, die eher die nervigeren Killer hatten, schätzen sie dich vielleicht einfach auf weniger gefährlich ein und riskieren mehr. Nur so eine Idee, die bestimmt auch nicht allzu neu ist.
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@Souplet said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2927058#Comment_2927058
Thats the difference
Lgbt iqnt forced or anything, it barely matters as its a story between friends
This is the kind of game that suits the so called "inclusion". It shouldnt even be a concern in dbd. Its nit a rpg or story heavy game, characters never speak and yet people going crazy about king being gay
World is going crazy
Exactly. It shouldn't matter. And personally I think it doesn't make too much sense too either. As ya said, they don't talk or interact with each other. They just exist tryna survive an endless bloody painful and "scary" hell. They should've included it in their datin game if they wanted this to happen, haha. Now there's LGBTQ+ people randomly tryin rp ######### with me (and other people as I've already got to know). It's already annoyin and the news're still fresh. Can't wait for more people askin me why I'm so shy on bein gay (I'm a David main) or indirectly askin for some kind of service or whatever the ######### they dream of...... -_-
Also to OP: I wouldn't support to "let people know" about this whole LGBTQ+ stuff as to my opinion - it's MY OPINION, no offense to anyone else disagreein here - this is JK Rowling style PR. Same happened to Dumbledore. Ya get some important or likeable character in a book, he's there for years, we never get in touch with topics like his sexuality and he never showed any hints, not even a tiny bit that would make sense - people can't hide everything forever, especially when they trust others -, in the canon text - it never mattered. All of a sudden, after Rowlin was known for not really bein too supportive of this spectrum Dumbledore turns out to be gay. Now their motives might not be the exact same and they are not like JK Rowling. Still: Great turn BHR! -_-
I have to add that I understand why they choose an existin character (not wantin to create a token character who's not well accepted n stuff) for it and I'm lookin forward to readin the new background story parts as I'm curious how much sense it makes. I'm open to get more in touch with the gay part of DBDs community (After readin that one post from 2019 I was pissed off a lil and I said some nasty ######### while bein annoyed, I hereby apologise). Still not supportin their decision tho. They're takin the freedom of player interpretation here only to please some people.
I hope I don't sound too annoyed and this isn't too much of a pain to read. Surprisingly, this news has private consequences for me that I have to iron out. And that pisses me off even more. Because, seriously, why would people bust my balls over a fictional character that I'm playin. Well, whatever. I think I've said enough for now. I realise I need to talk and I'm going to throw up somewhere else about this. Not in a homophobic way tho. I'm part of the community myself.
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@Yatol said:
because i hate myself
Me too. What's your reason?
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I just sprinted in here in one set to have a little chat with people, read through all the posts, including the bug fixes and other announcements, then disappeared into the fog - just (almost) as quietly as I came. So probably mainly the social aspect? Is drunk stalking social?
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@C3Tooth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2810195#Comment_2810195
Seriously, this is a genuine question, I know the stereotype that Russian, German, Irish drink alot. But can I ask how many bottle of beer your people drink average per night?
Because both my father & brother has 5 of them every night, or my cousin has 1 liter of 45% alcohol. And they all can work normally the next morning.
I would say that I can drink 6 to 8 bottles and still be able to go for a walk and finish my routine for the evening. The next day I would most likely not have a hangover, but be fit, just not slept in. (I guess I could drink David under the table if I wanted to, because more is definitely possible. But I don't want to. I currently have a slight drinking problem and am going cold turkey.)
It's a similar story in my family. The men in particular also manage their 6 to 8, some even 9 or 10 beers before carrying on with their lives relatively chipper the next morning. And the women, well, they're just a little behind with their average 4 to 4 and a half.
I can't tell you where I'm from though because I don't trust my own birth certificate. I just don't feel like I belong to the country that's on it and I consider the nationality that's given to me as foreign. But it is Western Europe in any case.
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With him saying some lines of the parody.
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Favorite: Pretty much everything about this game. It is fun as a killer to search and hunt survivors just as it is fun as a survivor to hide from the killer, work on generators or run from the killer. The different characters - both, killers and survivors alike -, perks, offerings etc. I particularly like rounds in which everyone (or at least the vast majority) plays fairly with each other and just wants to have fun. I don't care whether I win or lose (as a killer or a survivor). The best thing is when you can have a lively chit chat in the after-chat instead of calling each other losers or threatening each other or finding fault with others. Yes, utopian, but these rounds still exist. I like it when I have an enjoyable challenge in a round that I can learn from too. Well, everything is fine but......
Least favorite: Camping Ghostface and Wraith (because they're good at hiding). (Face)Campers, tunnelers and sluggers and all different combos of these in general. Whereby I make a distinction between those who do this on the basis of the behaviour of other survivors IN THE TRIAL doing annoying ######### like trolling, senseless clicking around with the torch, three survivors blinding the killer and tea-bagging (I can understand if the killer doesn't want to play fair in that case.) or simply to spoil the fun for others. On the other hand, there are those very survivors who try to spoil the fun of the killers and the survivors by doing the above (and other stuff like body blocking other survivors while both being hunted and therelike) them and simply not playing normally. Rage quits from both sides, inactivity and survivor suicide included. This annoying (not toxic) behaviour spoils the desire to play alone - as a killer or survivor, doesn't matter. I forgot about condescending behaviour in the after-chat. There is no need for insults and threats, especially not from a minor playing a 18+ game.
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Dem kann ich nur zustimmen. Sowas gehört gebannt oder auf einen anderen Server. Hatte heute erst wieder einen russischen Camper. Der hat aber zumindest für einen kurzen Moment eingesehen, dass es ihm und den anderen Mitspielern nichts bringt. Naja, aber eben nur kurzzeitig.
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Es hat halt irgendwo angefangen und breitet sich aus wie ein Virus. Schade und unnötig, aber was will man machen? Ich bin Surv-Main, aber ich kann eigentlich nur bestätigen, was hier ohnehin schon geschrieben steht. Ist mir als Killer UND als Surv aufgefallen. Aber es bringt auch einfach gar nichts, sich darüber aufzuregen und selbst toxisch zu werden, auch wenn ich das in jedem Fall verstehe.
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Bin neu hier und mir ist dieser Beitrag direkt ins Auge gefallen. Ich schätze, es ist die Frage nach Huhn und Ei. Ich sehe es da ähnlich wie Kabniel. Beide Seiten haben toxische Spieler, es gibt auf beiden Seiten Spieler, die ständig rumheulen wegen irgendwelcher Spielweisen. Viele Dinge, die einfach nicht ideal laufen. Man kann nur hoffen, dass die Devs irgendwann das ein oder andere anpassen, um das Spiel für beide Seiten besser zu machen.
Was mich als Main-Surv tatsächlich stört ist, wenn Killer von vorneherein toxisch spielen. Sehe das zwar auch immer als kleine Herausforderung und das spornt mich schon an, aber irgendwann nervt es einfach nur noch. Ich kann es absolut nachvollziehen, no front, toxische Survivor sind nervig und machen durchaus aggressiv. Habe zwischendurch eine ganze Zeit lang immer mal wieder Killer gespielt und in dieser Zeit sind mir oft Survs aufgefallen, die zu zweit oder zu dritt die Taschenlampe benutzen, um einen getragenen Survivor zu retten, die zu dritt Bodyblocking durchziehen und am Ende alle tea baggen und im After Chat über den Killer herziehen (nur ein Beispiel, es geht natürlich auch weniger und mehr toxisch), die mich mehr als nur die Stirn haben runzeln lassen. Aber mal ehrlich - was bringt es beiden, den Killern und den Survs, sich toxisch zu verhalten? Nur noch mehr toxische Spieler, zumindest ist das meine Auffassung. In meinen circa 320 Spielstunden (ist ja jetzt noch nicht allzu viel) habe ich bereits die verschiedensten Spieler gesehen, die wegen toxischem Verhalten, - Killer gegenüber Surv(s), Surv(s) gegenüber dem Killer oder auch Surv(s) gegenüber Surv(s), - selbst toxisch wurden oder dieses Spiel länger oder nie wieder angerührt haben. Wobei Letzteres vermutlich für Einige, da stimme ich Kabniel wieder zu, vielleicht gar keine allzu schlechte Entscheidung war.
In der Regel kommentiere ich das kaum noch im After-Chat. Wieso auch? Den Killer oder den Surv juckt es ja oft eh nicht mehr, was sehr schade aber auch durchaus verständlich ist. Ich habe aber fast schon Mitleid mit all denen, die offensichtlich ausschließlich spielen, um anderen den Spaß zu verderben und solchen, die direkt am Anfang ihres Spielerlebnisses den Eindruck bekommen, dass das die richtige Art zu spielen ist. Muss echt nicht sein.