solidestcross63
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@BooperDooper said:
There are many great skins in mobile at the moment and hopefully we get to see some make it to the core game. What would you like to see? These are my personal favourite collections, especially the Yun-jin/kate/claudette Christmas one and Claudette's beachy one!
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/ANJUHJMEWSNC/gb1r0szwiaayge4.jpg
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@VantablackPharaoh91 said:
Excuse me but what?
99ing a stalk as Ghostface and managing it without being seen to instant down takes skill since you can lose your cover, so you need to be good at stealth play and timing period.
Managing to properly use Frenzy as Legion to get a five chain and instant down takes skill, it is very rare against good Survivors to even properly make it happen.
Managing your stalk as Myers does in fact take skill, you can lose access to this if you stalk too much and you miss out on tons of pressure if you don't time it right to help in chase.
Steering Bubba and Billy and Oni in speed takes skill because one wrong move takes you out of it.
Instant down Killers DEFINITELY take skill to use and saying they don't, is like saying that knowing how and when to use certain items to help your team as Survivor doesn't take skill. It does, teamwork's a skill.
Honestly The legion I don't even think of as an insta down killer I think that's the only one that really does, ghostface at first yes but being marked lasts way too long it's should be like 15 seconds or something close to hubris. And the myers part yes if most people actually managed stalk and didn't just use iridescent tuft of hair and a stalk increase. Oni yes bc you have to actually get hits in the first place. Billy and Bubba most certainly not.
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@KatsuhxP said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3740373#Comment_3740373
Yeah I saw it, sorry. I'm german and had to listen to someone and read at the same time xD
No worries lol
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@KatsuhxP said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3740368#Comment_3740368
Oh Mobile, now it's a entirely different topic.
Survivors on mobile are a lot worse for the most part, I was able to go from rank 20 to 1 with I think 4 loses. That being said I played it last where blight came out on mobile xD
For mobile it could be right that they are to strong, but that's on the people, not on the killers.
No I meant I'm responding so fast bc I'm on my phone not a laptop
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@KatsuhxP said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3740360#Comment_3740360
Then your mmr doesn't seem to be on the cap yet.
I'm playing a lot against people with 2-5k hours sometimes even 9k at the moment and it's getting pretty awful how efficient they are on gens, the fact that it's more rarely to get a quick chase like this doesn't make it any better.
Your awnsering insanely fast btw xD
While That may be true I don't think it is I think it is.
On Mobile and bored and I'm passionate about the topic 🤷♀️
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@KatsuhxP said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3740329#Comment_3740329
You won't against good survivors xD
They will make your power feel pretty useless.
I get 4ks almost every single match tbh don't feel useless but ok
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@cclain said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3740028#Comment_3740028
kill cry about flash, loop, stun.
but survivor cant cry because they are insta down ?
better at looping ? when all good loop are remove ?
For real , every side cry because this game isnt balancedI'm sorry I just blatantly don't understand what you're saying
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@UndeddJester said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3740326#Comment_3740326
OK.... but an exception doesnt prove a rule...
Those things can happen sure... but have you ever tried to do these things? How many times do you succeed? How many times on average do you see these killers pulling it off when facing them... cause whether I'm playing as or against, I very rarely see these things.
I have played all these killers for a reasonable amount of time, they'reall in my top 10 favourite killers, and I've got enough knowledge to understand how big my skill gulf is on then compared to someone who is truly talented on the killer.
The only way you can claim these things are overpowered and skillless is if you could easily do them consistently... you simply cannot... so these scenarios youre describing are more realistically a high skill killer capitalising of a very bad set of survivor mistakes...
Especially the Infinite Tier 3 Myers. That is absolutely a survivor skill issue.
I see these things pretty much everytime I go into a match against one of them or else I wouldn't be complaining about it
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@VomitMommy said:
Sounds like skill issue.
No instadown killer is without either big requirement, or counterplay.
It simply relies in skill of survivors to take advantage of that. Sounds more interesting to me than every killer just using M1.
If you gutted their power so shamelessly, then you would also need to buff them / remove counterplay.
I highly doubt that would be more fun for anyone.
I don't and will never understand why people are so against atleast trying out change yes it removes old counterplay but it would make room for new counterplay and new more exciting powers.
Side note love your username lol
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Scenario 1 you run towards her she blinks past you
Scenario 2 you run at her she tries to blink close by looking down you run away (she might even tp down if it's a 2 story map)
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@Archol123 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3740329#Comment_3740329
Billy is one of the most fun killers in the game and basically everyone loves him, I don't see an issue here.
I'm happy you enjoy playing against him. I don't it's boring
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I love going against the nurse
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Okay and?
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@KatsuhxP said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/417362/insta-down-shouldnt-exist
So you want them to be useless? against good survivors you will almost never get a chainsaw (even if they don't crouchtech) and I don't even start with myers that won't get anyone from begin with because he's m1.
Besides that it's wrong that bubba doesn't take skill, you have to spin fast and precise aswell as having a insanely good movement to make the most of his chainsaw on loops and actually mindgame with him. Otherwise the survivors will most likely just wait and see what you're doing and play it save, because you can't do something unexpected.
Billy is a lot easier and stronger then before, but he's still a chainsaw killer and good survivor won't go down on him if they don't want to. You have to have good control over your curves and predict what the survivor is doing to get your hits. Also they can absolutely destroy you by using the crouch-tech (force you to break palette or making you miss).
Myers doesn't take much skill mechanicaly but he needs a really good makro-game and clean m1-gameplay to have a chance against good survivors (and even then you'll most likely loose).
So no, we shouldn't nerf them directly (we could talk about instadowns in hooked-range but that's about it).
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3740240#Comment_3740240
Besides that 2k hours in dbd isn't even a lot, I'd say it's pretty average (coming from someone with 2,3k hours and twice the account-level of yours with better self-reflection btw).
No I want them to have powers that are fun for everyone and don't leave me feeling I didn't deserve a 4k for using them
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@UndeddJester said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3740293#Comment_3740293
The problem is you haven't really said why an instant down mechanic doesn't take skill, so trying to explain why your arguement is flawed is like basically trying to explain how the game works...
I gues stbe fundamental point is every instant down mechanic has some degree of a trade off.
Hillbilly - Has to slow down to charge his chainsaw, and when charged his rush is hard to aim/control, especially around terrain, and is relatively easy to juke unless Hillbilly guesses where the survivor will be correctly and is also very accurate in hitting that location.
Myers - Has to build up his power over time, he has to take huge pauses from gen pressure in order to get access to his instantdown, which requires a good understanding of map state and macro control. Once he has the power of a slightly more effective m1 killer, that still has to win all the standard mind games that any other you label as "skillful" has to do, without really any additional help.
Bubba - Slows down significantly when he charges his chainsaw, guaranteeing survivors can make use of corners to gain distmace, and has to be far more careful of his hitbox around terrain, meaning he can't hug anywhere near as tightly as other killers. A single mistake costs him greatly, and the skill of Bubba is knowing the timings of loops very well to ensure he has the chsnce to outsmart and catch survivors.
So the blanket statement "instandowns have no skill" just doesn't make sense. The instadown is part of the skill expression of whatever ability it is tied to... it is a boon for a particular power that could have any level of skill expression... and more iften than not, removing ten jsntadown of an ability would require you to make the ability easier and less skillful to use....
So your argument just doesn't make sense.
I've seen clips aswell as personally seen a hillbilly run around the entire map 3 times and then down someone all in one chainsaw. I've seen a Bubba down an entire team in seconds. And have seen a michael with infinite tier 3 and tombstone pretend to be friendly and kill everyone
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I have I've played against a good nurse where everyone else goes down instantly and I loop her for like 5 mins till she just hives up on me while chain blinding her
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@SoGo said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3740298#Comment_3740298
Blink on top of you. And hit you.
That is, if she knows what she's doing, of course.
As I mentioned b4 just run towards her as she blinks.
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@Archol123 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3740293#Comment_3740293
A decent Nurse has control over her blinks and will still just blink behind you and get the hit on the 2nd blink, I don't really know what else to point out here, it is fairly obvious a wrong assumption that only applies when the nurse does not know what she is doing.
If she blinks behind you all you gotta do is run forward and then back when she blinks again
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@Archol123 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3740296#Comment_3740296
It is fairly easy to understand, Myers without Tombstone is a really weak killer and Bubba with his best addons is a bit above average, both are not strong killers and after a certain amount of playtime and skill acquired those characters tend to drop off in effectivity against decent players or such of similar skill.
You can only avoid getting stalked for so long, and for Bubba I just disagree.
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All while hitting on hook and humping slugged survivors
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@Archol123 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3740295#Comment_3740295
Are you complaining about killers not using Gen regression because they actually want to go for chases while simultaneously saying they all camp in which case aura reading does nothing? XD
They camp till they secure their kill then go tunnel and camp the next one
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What's nurse gonna do? Actually chase you? She's one of if not the slowest killer in the game
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@Souplet said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3740276#Comment_3740276
2.5k hours and you are complaining about myers and bubba
Actually pretty impressive
Your sentence literally has no meaning yk that right?
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Ooh some people curve big whoop most camp and use every single aura perk in the game to immediately go to the next survivor
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@Archol123 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3740269#Comment_3740269
That does not work if the Nurse knows what she is doing, which most Nurse's in public matches don't so it might work from time to time...
I don't understand the hatred towards insta down killers, they all have to somewhat work for, especially Billy before his Buffs, it still takes a lot of skill to properly and consistently curve around tiles, so I don't know where you got the idea from that it takes 0 skill?
@UndeddJester said:
I'm struggling to process this argument... I don't want to disrespect you man, but it actually dumbfounded me reading this thread...
I suppose the only argument I can get my brain chugging for is to point to Hillbilly....
Hillbilly has consistently been one of the most beloved killers in the game... he was the strongest killer when he was released and remaining top tier for a long time, and has then flip flopped to be one of the most difficult to play for little reward for years, then back to one of the strongest again, and yet he has consistently been a favourite for survivors of all levels pretty over the entire games lifetime.
He has also been consistently labelled as a killer to be respected as having a high skill floor and a very high skill ceiling... and he was the killer that introduced the instant down mechanic... the OG instadown killer... there is a fundamental error in the entire baseline of your arguement, and you are grossly misinformed...
I gonna be honest man... it sounds like you just got smoked by a Billy and/or Myers back to back and just came to complain, cause tbh... this is a Nuclear meltdown take...
Are you gonna point out what my fundamental error is or still just say a whole Lot of nothing?
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@Archol123 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3740269#Comment_3740269
That does not work if the Nurse knows what she is doing, which most Nurse's in public matches don't so it might work from time to time...
I don't understand the hatred towards insta down killers, they all have to somewhat work for, especially Billy before his Buffs, it still takes a lot of skill to properly and consistently curve around tiles, so I don't know where you got the idea from that it takes 0 skill?
From Experience of one's that still camp just far enough away to not set off the camp timer to the point where they can literally just insta down you if you dare try to play the game and go for a save. (Every single one does this) and he can hold his chainsaw however long he wants bc they got rid of overheat so he's not really all that skillfulsure you have the rare few that actually do curves but then you have the most of them that just get up close and take the game hostage
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@Souplet said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3740271#Comment_3740271
Right so you clearly don't know what you are talking about
Myers has no terror radius in tier 1, what an insuferable menace guys
What are you even saying I literally just said he has no terror radius in tier 1
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Oh and bc someone who deleted their comment called me a baby killer and smth about trust me bro here's proof I play the game ig cus I need that apparently 🤧
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Ormond is a survivor sides map he probably relies on the broken map (he probably brought the offering)
And myers is that weak in other areas to 'make up for' lack of tier 1 terror radius and his insta down/ insta mori. So if we remove those broken things we can buff his other areas
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@Devil_hit11 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3740241#Comment_3740241
I hate playing against Nurse and Current Sadako. Wesker was also a killer i despised playing against before his hindered tunnel changed occurred. Artist is just….. a no skill killer.
I just wish there was more instant down chase-type killers and less of this boring 4vs1 secondary objective type killers.
The nurse is so easy to loop it's honestly sad all you have to do is run towards her, and then run away when she trys to blink up close.
Sadako just get a tape when you hit 3 stacks and watch out for her lullaby and manifest/projection sounds.
Wesker just move left and right.
Artist: lockers
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The difference is that it doesn't it's basically a buy one hit get one free
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@Devil_hit11 said:
the game needs more instant downs killers. there hasn't been a base-kit instant down killer in ages….
Or we can get killers that are actually fun to play against like the artist, wesker, nurse, and Sadako
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@mcallisterbritt said:
I will never understand baby survivors that cry about everything just get better at looping….. Try some 5 gen runs like I have done loads of times….. Still sounds like a survivor skill problem…. Myers Bubba and Billy are fine and fun to play with I love running and Bubba and Billy around and here you are trying to take that fun away….
Well of course it seems fine for you you main those characters. Ive seen matches where the killer completely does not deserve a 4k and gets one anyway after all gens pop bc he has noed. Ive also seen the boring ways bubbas and billies play by just body blocking you to endure you can do anything to get away and dont get me started on michaelwith his 10 mins of staring at a locker (Not a baby survivor I have 2,000+ hours and iri 1 on killer and survivor every month aswell as own every character in the game)
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Like Hex: NOED needs to just be a speed buff