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  • @[Deleted User] said:

    Thanks to samination?

    the rules that Samination states in his video were the rules that countless surviors try to impose killers since the game was realeased!

    That video is meant to be a PARODY and MOCKERY about real and countless survivor's threads about such imaginary rules

    Killers don't need that kind of rulebook

    I kindly suggest you to take saminations video fo what it is: a a veiled (and funny)criticism about said imaginary rules ONLY made for entertainment purposes

    What you try to do here serves no purpose and makes you just as laughable as survivors who make infinite threads about deleting/changing/nerfing NOED and/or Ruin along BBQ

    Refrain yourself to fall that low please

    Whoosh

  • Lore wise, both the survivors and killers are trapped in a dream like state. Have you ever had one of those dreams where you seem limited in your actions, like you can't run away from a pursuer? It's sort of like that. They are like puppets in The Entity's game, with a limited amount of agency. It's the same reason why survivors can't just hop the fence and escape.

  • @ASAPTurtle said:

    Theres a lot of other killers and survivors in the entities realm serving out matches as we play the game we just aren't able to go up against them until The Entity feels like we should.

    Also I think Nurse was the first ever killer to serve for The Entity.

    I like this theory about The Nurse being the "first" killer to serve The Entity. That could possibly explain why she is arguably the most powerful killer in the game. The killers could be more powerful in relation to how much devotion they have to The Entity. The Plague could be considered to be the first to serve, as she is the "oldest" according to our time; But, seeing as The Realm is not bound by our concept of time, it doesn't have to be that way. The Entity seems to be able to snatch it's victims from any time period in no specific order.

  • I like to think that the Entity had a hand in him escaping. We see in Kate's lore that it had an influence on her before she was taken to the realm. It's possible that the Entity influenced The Hillbilly to help him out of his cage.

  • I think it's possible it could have been canon, but the devs can't seem to make up their minds about what the lore is. Like mentioned before, they make changes to it so it is entirely possible that at one point it was cannon but then they removed it.

  • I personally would love to see a skin with a belt around her neck and her face uncovered.

  • As far as we know, none of the survivors were connected to killers previous to being in the realm, except for Laurie and Quinten.

  • I'd be down for that.

  • This is awesome. I think this made me realize how much more dark and scary The Realm used to be without the generators and other survivor made objects. Imagine if the devs decided to put the current game further back in the timeline before all of these survivor made objects were there. It would be a much harder and scarier game for survivors.

  • Part of me feels like the audio clips they used here are just gibberish that has noise added to it, but another part of me feels like there could be something hidden here.

  • On the first one I hear faint screaming starting at around 9 seconds. It seems to be high pitched so I'm assuming it's a female screaming.

  • Also, I found a gold mine of lore in a steam group created by devs of Dead By Daylight. Here is the discussion. It shares a lot of useful information on The Entity.
    https://steamcommunity.com/groups/DbD_S/discussions/0/358415103478024249/

  • @TheBretzel said:

    @scoobydoomh said:

    @bevdog67 said:
    One thing I find interesting about the Entity is how it communicates with its own language. I know that someone found a way to translate, but it still begs the question, how does the Entity know how to communicate, and how did it teach the killers to understand its language?

    I find this stuff so fascinating. I have a theory on how The Entity created it's language. I think it is just mimicking what it's learned from it's victims, both the killers and survivors. It may just speak to the killer's in their own language.
    Also, could you direct me to where they found a way to translate it's language? I'd really appreciate it.

    Well that would be my thread right here ;

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/375/is-this-the-entitys-language-devs#latest

    I'm still waiting on more language phrases to decipher and update the thread with it along with other secret the games has to offer.

    As for the topic of this thread : I would not go as far as to say the Entity is a god. We only feel it is this way since we are in it's realm. But if we were outside of it, would we even know about it? And if so, would we worship it?

    Think of it like you having raised an ant colony ; you are a god to them since you are in total control of what happens to them. But if it were an ant colony outside, like in your yard or somewhere else, you're just another passer-by that can influence or not what happens next, but don't have a total control over it since it's outside of your realm. Dunno if I was clear but what I mean is, The Entity cannot control you until you're in it's realm. But it CAN influence the real world to make you spawn inside it's realm and then have a total control over you.

    Thank you! Nice job finding and translating those phrases.I hope we get more to decipher.

  • @Coriander said:
    The realm we play in is created by the Entity in a nightmare-like fashion. Alternatively, the Entity lives in a space outside of our reality. The Entity cannot be affected either from our world, or from the realm in which we play the game of escape. To even observe the Entity, you would need to somehow find a way to its realm, and whether or not it can be killed or even injured is another matter; we don't even know if the Entity is a physical being or simply a consciousness.

    From Kate's lore we see that it does have a physical manifestation. But like as you said, we have no idea if it could even be harmed. I think as the devs continue to share more lore we might be able to get an answer.

  • @bevdog67 said:
    One thing I find interesting about the Entity is how it communicates with its own language. I know that someone found a way to translate, but it still begs the question, how does the Entity know how to communicate, and how did it teach the killers to understand its language?

    I find this stuff so fascinating. I have a theory on how The Entity created it's language. I think it is just mimicking what it's learned from it's victims, both the killers and survivors. It may just speak to the killer's in their own language.
    Also, could you direct me to where they found a way to translate it's language? I'd really appreciate it.

  • @Tombstone218 said:
    @DocOctober there is nothing proving or disproving our argument. Nothing explicitly proves or disproves Kate being the one playing the survivor menu theme. It just sounded similar, and Kate happens to play an acoustic guitar. Nothing more. I wasn't stating it as fact, and I said that I knew that it was reaching.

    @DocOctober said:

    @scoobydoomh said:

    @DocOctober said:
    Very unlikely considering that she came into the game very recently.

    That doesn't mean she hasn't already been The Entity's Realm for a while.

    That's nevertheless stretching it. And with the Killer theme? Did she somehow get an electric guitar and an amplifier?

    First, I never mentioned the killer theme, she is obviously not connected.

    @DocOctober said:

    @Tombstone218 said:

    @DocOctober said:

    @scoobydoomh said:

    @DocOctober said:
    Very unlikely considering that she came into the game very recently.

    That doesn't mean she hasn't already been The Entity's Realm for a while.

    That's nevertheless stretching it. And with the Killer theme? Did she somehow get an electric guitar and an amplifier?

    Well they seem to have things somewhat planned out content wise, maybe she was planned?

    She's been in the files since Leatherface, but still not long enough for that.

    Just because she was in the files since Leatherface doesn't mean that she hasn't existed before then.

    @DocOctober said:

    @Soren said:

    @DocOctober said:
    Very unlikely considering that she came into the game very recently.

    Prequels are a thing in the movie industry. Why can't it be the same in a video game?

    This argumentation leads nowhere.

    It's obvious that you guys WANT her to be the one playing the DbD theme and apparently, nothing will change that opinion.

    I can accept that, but then I will stop wasting my time with a pointless discussion.

    It wasn't argumentative at that point, it was a simple question.

    @DocOctober said:
    As I said before, you guys are searching validation for something that is not the case. You grasp at straws and that's a mentality I do not support. I won't waste my time with this. That promo-image shows the four original Survivors, Dwight, Meg, Claudette and Jake, they looked very different in their alpha stage (see the original game trailer) than they look these days. The guy with the med-kit looks very much like an early concept of Dwight that the devs showed us.

    @scoobydoomh made a poor point, but it was an honest mistake. It does slightly resemble Kate to those who don't know what the alpha survivors looked like. And sure we're grasping at straws, but so are most people in the lore section. There's not a lot to go around.

    @DocOctober said:

    @scoobydoomh said:

    @DocOctober said:
    As I said before, you guys are searching validation for something that is not the case. You grasp at straws and that's a mentality I do not support. I won't waste my time with this. That promo-image shows the four original Survivors, Dwight, Meg, Claudette and Jake, they looked very different in their alpha stage (see the original game trailer) than they look these days. The guy with the med-kit looks very much like an early concept of Dwight that the devs showed us.

    Well, I don't see you using any evidence in your side of the argument. But either side could be right here. It's a possibility that the menu music has a connection to Kate, or it could have nothing to do with her. The only way we could ever know is if the devs answered the question but I have a feeling that they wouldn't be very helpful as the majority of their answers regarding lore are "maybe" or "i don't want to talk about that". So I'm just going to leave it at there's a possibility that Kate is playing the survivor menu theme but at the moment we don't have anything confirming or denying this.

    No proof? I just told you that the guy carrying the med-kit looks exactly like an early Dwight-concept, with the others very likely being Alpha Meg, Jake and Claudette. The girl you refer to as resembling Kate is actually an early concept of Meg: https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/File:480X800-Meg.jpg

    That proof you brought up doesn't prove your argument, just as the initial proof we showed (that your proof disproved) doesn't prove ours. At this point neither side of this debate has any concrete evidence.

    @DocOctober said:

    @scoobydoomh said:

    @DocOctober said:

    @scoobydoomh said:

    @DocOctober said:
    As I said before, you guys are searching validation for something that is not the case. You grasp at straws and that's a mentality I do not support. I won't waste my time with this. That promo-image shows the four original Survivors, Dwight, Meg, Claudette and Jake, they looked very different in their alpha stage (see the original game trailer) than they look these days. The guy with the med-kit looks very much like an early concept of Dwight that the devs showed us.

    Also, aren't you also grasping for straws in your side of the argument? You never shared any solid evidence that it isn't Kate playing the survivor menu theme. You just tried to debunk it with statements void of any actual fact behind them.

    I just shared evidence.
    https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/File:480X800-Dwight.jpg Concept Dwight
    https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/File:480X800-Meg.jpg Concept Meg
    https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/File:480X800-Jake.jpg Concept Jake
    https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/File:480X800-Claudette.jpg Concept Claudette

    I'm not grasping at straws, as you can plainly see, the four characters in the picture above are our original four Survivors.

    Here, now stop grasping at straws, Kate is not playing the theme-tune.

    I'm sorry, but I fail to see how this shows how she isn't playing the survivor theme. I think you are thinking to much about how Kate was introduced into the game at a later time. This has nothing to do with the lore of the game as it doesn't explain where the music originated lore wise. I'm standing firm in my side of the argument that there is a possibility that Kate is playing the survivor theme music. Your evidence is irrelevant, as it doesn't address the main question of this discussion which is if Kate is playing the survivor theme in the game.

    If that's the case, then don't try to use a picture showing the four original Survivors as concepts as "proof" for the argument that Kate's been in the game for much longer than she's actually been.

    You're the type that can't handle being proven wrong with facts, you immediately backtracked and now state that the picture and my provided evidence against your initial claim about it actually don't matter at all and should be disregarded.

    That kind of behaviour is one that I severely dislike as it shows a lot of dishonesty with me and with yourself.

    You've shown yet again that you obviously can't be convinced that Kate hasn't been in the game long enough to be the creator/originator of the Survivor theme song, nevermind that it also doesn't explain where the Killer and the main menu variation originate from.

    I won't waste my time with you any longer. Live in your fairy tale world if it makes you happy, I know better.

    Again, rude. You can get your point across without insulting people.

    @DocOctober said:
    I just don't like that you guys try to make something into something it is clearly not.

    And you did try using the picture as proof for why Kate might be in the game longer than she actually is, stop trying to deny that.

    Yes, you're right it wasn't proof but that, again, does not disprove it. As I have said before, neither side has brought up concrete evidence to prove one side right. You proving the image as someone else doesn't mean our argument is wrong, it just means the point we made for our argument is wrong.

    People are just speculating on a made up game in a made up universe with made up characters. If you're so against it then leave.

    Thank you for explaining what I've been trying to explain what I have been trying to do this entire time. You did it a lot better than I did lol.

  • @DocOctober I apologize if any of my responses offended you, it was never my intention. I try to keep my arguments civil. I am passionate about the lore of this game and I hope I didn't let that passion overrule civility. This argument has been fun and intellectually stimulating and I thank you for helping me see both sides of this argument. Even though I still think that it is a possibility that Kate is the person that is playing the survivor theme song, I do understand that this has not been proven and that it is possible that I am completely wrong.

  • @DocOctober said:
    I just don't like that you guys try to make something into something it is clearly not.

    And you did try using the picture as proof for why Kate might be in the game longer than she actually is, stop trying to deny that.

    Again, let me explain it to you. You tried to use that picture to try to prove that she isn't the person playing the survivor theme. I shared my view on why I think that isn't a valid reason why she didn't play that tune. In the first place I was trying to use that picture to show that it's possible that a concept of Kate has been in the game for a longer time than when she was found in the files when Leatherface released. This is because of how similar she is to the early Meg concept. These two things are completely different and unrelated, other than it's the same picture being used. I never backtracked. Again, I repeat, I never backtracked on my argument.

  • @DocOctober said:
    Tombstone218 said:

    @DocOctober said:

    @Soren said:

    @DocOctober said:

    Very unlikely considering that she came into the game very recently.

    Prequels are a thing in the movie industry. Why can't it be the same in a video game?

    This argumentation leads nowhere.
    
    It's obvious that you guys WANT her to be the one playing the DbD theme and apparently, nothing will change that opinion.
    

    I can accept that, but then I will stop wasting my time with a pointless discussion.

    Hey, hey no need to be rude. It's just a discussion.

    A discussion based on nothing but of made-up fairy tales and actual counter-proof to pseudo-proof is suddenly disregardedable? No thanks.

    This is the lore section of the forums, of course it's going to be full of made-up fairy tales. If you don't like that then you can move on.

  • @DocOctober said:

    @scoobydoomh said:

    @DocOctober said:

    @scoobydoomh said:

    @DocOctober said:
    As I said before, you guys are searching validation for something that is not the case. You grasp at straws and that's a mentality I do not support. I won't waste my time with this. That promo-image shows the four original Survivors, Dwight, Meg, Claudette and Jake, they looked very different in their alpha stage (see the original game trailer) than they look these days. The guy with the med-kit looks very much like an early concept of Dwight that the devs showed us.

    Also, aren't you also grasping for straws in your side of the argument? You never shared any solid evidence that it isn't Kate playing the survivor menu theme. You just tried to debunk it with statements void of any actual fact behind them.

    I just shared evidence.
    https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/File:480X800-Dwight.jpg Concept Dwight
    https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/File:480X800-Meg.jpg Concept Meg
    https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/File:480X800-Jake.jpg Concept Jake
    https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/File:480X800-Claudette.jpg Concept Claudette

    I'm not grasping at straws, as you can plainly see, the four characters in the picture above are our original four Survivors.

    Here, now stop grasping at straws, Kate is not playing the theme-tune.

    I'm sorry, but I fail to see how this shows how she isn't playing the survivor theme. I think you are thinking to much about how Kate was introduced into the game at a later time. This has nothing to do with the lore of the game as it doesn't explain where the music originated lore wise. I'm standing firm in my side of the argument that there is a possibility that Kate is playing the survivor theme music. Your evidence is irrelevant, as it doesn't address the main question of this discussion which is if Kate is playing the survivor theme in the game.

    If that's the case, then don't try to use a picture showing the four original Survivors as concepts as "proof" for the argument that Kate's been in the game for much longer than she's actually been.

    You're the type that can't handle being proven wrong with facts, you immediately backtracked and now state that the picture and my provided evidence against your initial claim about it actually don't matter at all and should be disregarded.

    That kind of behaviour is one that I severely dislike as it shows a lot of dishonesty with me and with yourself.

    You've shown yet again that you obviously can't be convinced that Kate hasn't been in the game long enough to be the creator/originator of the Survivor theme song, nevermind that it also doesn't explain where the Killer and the main menu variation originate from.

    I won't waste my time with you any longer. Live in your fairy tale world if it makes you happy, I know better.

    I never used that picture as a way to prove that she's the one playing the theme. I used it to state that it is possible that her character concept was in the game for a much longer time because of the similarities that the early Meg concept shared with her. I never backtracked, you are just trying to discredit my argument by twisting my words. Additionally, this is in the lore section of the forums so it is obviously about the lore. The time of Kate's release has nothing to do with the lore. The devs have stated that they are constantly adding to the lore so who's to say they haven't credited Kate as the person who is playing the survivor theme song lore wise?

  • @DocOctober said:

    @scoobydoomh said:

    @DocOctober said:
    As I said before, you guys are searching validation for something that is not the case. You grasp at straws and that's a mentality I do not support. I won't waste my time with this. That promo-image shows the four original Survivors, Dwight, Meg, Claudette and Jake, they looked very different in their alpha stage (see the original game trailer) than they look these days. The guy with the med-kit looks very much like an early concept of Dwight that the devs showed us.

    Also, aren't you also grasping for straws in your side of the argument? You never shared any solid evidence that it isn't Kate playing the survivor menu theme. You just tried to debunk it with statements void of any actual fact behind them.

    I just shared evidence.
    https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/File:480X800-Dwight.jpg Concept Dwight
    https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/File:480X800-Meg.jpg Concept Meg
    https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/File:480X800-Jake.jpg Concept Jake
    https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/File:480X800-Claudette.jpg Concept Claudette

    I'm not grasping at straws, as you can plainly see, the four characters in the picture above are our original four Survivors.

    Here, now stop grasping at straws, Kate is not playing the theme-tune.

    I'm sorry, but I fail to see how this shows how she isn't playing the survivor theme. I think you are thinking to much about how Kate was introduced into the game at a later time. This has nothing to do with the lore of the game as it doesn't explain where the music originated lore wise. I'm standing firm in my side of the argument that there is a possibility that Kate is playing the survivor theme music. Your evidence is irrelevant, as it doesn't address the main question of this discussion which is if Kate is playing the survivor theme in the game.

  • @DocOctober said:
    As I said before, you guys are searching validation for something that is not the case. You grasp at straws and that's a mentality I do not support. I won't waste my time with this. That promo-image shows the four original Survivors, Dwight, Meg, Claudette and Jake, they looked very different in their alpha stage (see the original game trailer) than they look these days. The guy with the med-kit looks very much like an early concept of Dwight that the devs showed us.

    Also, aren't you also grasping for straws in your side of the argument? You never shared any solid evidence that it isn't Kate playing the survivor menu theme. You just tried to debunk it with statements void of any actual fact behind them.

  • @DocOctober said:
    As I said before, you guys are searching validation for something that is not the case. You grasp at straws and that's a mentality I do not support. I won't waste my time with this. That promo-image shows the four original Survivors, Dwight, Meg, Claudette and Jake, they looked very different in their alpha stage (see the original game trailer) than they look these days. The guy with the med-kit looks very much like an early concept of Dwight that the devs showed us.

    Well, I don't see you using any evidence in your side of the argument. But either side could be right here. It's a possibility that the menu music has a connection to Kate, or it could have nothing to do with her. The only way we could ever know is if the devs answered the question but I have a feeling that they wouldn't be very helpful as the majority of their answers regarding lore are "maybe" or "i don't want to talk about that". So I'm just going to leave it at there's a possibility that Kate is playing the survivor menu theme but at the moment we don't have anything confirming or denying this.

  • @Lyxfex said:
    for me Kate lore is proving something

    Why would the entity take her right their ? No killer as gone their and no horrific act as been done and she did go their multiple time. So why the Entity take her in the first place

    Is the entity powerfull enough so he can take survivors whitout waiting for them to go to the horrific scenario or the entity try to do something else

    i think the entity is trying to do something else

    That's an interesting thought. I don't think they gave us very much information about the exact location where she was taken or what happened there. A brutal murder could have happened there in the past (or future?) so that could be the reason why she was taken. Or something could have happened there while she was traveling. We just don't have enough information to know exactly why she wasn't taken from that location before. But you could be right about The Entity gaining power and trying to spread it's influence.

  • @DocOctober said:

    @Tombstone218 said:

    @DocOctober said:

    @scoobydoomh said:

    @DocOctober said:
    Very unlikely considering that she came into the game very recently.

    That doesn't mean she hasn't already been The Entity's Realm for a while.

    That's nevertheless stretching it. And with the Killer theme? Did she somehow get an electric guitar and an amplifier?

    Well they seem to have things somewhat planned out content wise, maybe she was planned?

    She's been in the files since Leatherface, but still not long enough for that.

    Actually, shes been a part of the game much longer then that. There's a picture that was a teaser for the game before it came out. Here it is.
    See the girl on the left? Doesn't that resemble Kate? She has a similar top and tattoos. So it is possible that they planned her.

  • @DocOctober said:
    Very unlikely considering that she came into the game very recently.

    That doesn't mean she hasn't already been The Entity's Realm for a while.

  • @Okkoner said:
    Change my Mind

    That's impossible.

  • @Nos37 said:
    I think SWF voice chat would ruin the deception.

    My idea for Ghostface would be to have 3 Ghostfaces, but the killer only controls one at a time.

    • The other two are "dummies" in lockers.
    • Ghostface can climb into a locker and spy (can hear survivor breathing louder or read auras?), reducing his terror radius to 0.
    • While in a locker he can cycle between all 3 "dummy" locations to spy.
    • To move his "dummies" around, he would have to take control of them one at a time and then climb into the locker of his choice before switching to another "dummy."
    • He can exit the locker quickly (to gain a temporary speed boost?), or exit slowly (to have a delayed terror radius / red stain?).
    • If a survivor quickly opens a locker with a "dummy" inside of it, the "dummy" stabs them before the real Ghostface (killer) is teleported into the "dummy" to take control of it (their old form vanishes leaving its clothes to fall to the ground and fade away, before a new "dummy" reappears in a random (or the nearest) locker).
    • If a survivor slowly opens a locker with a "dummy" inside of it, the "dummy" grabs the survivor and gives them a skill check (again, the killer takes over this new "dummy").
      • Passing the skill check slams the locker on the killer for a stun and escape unharmed.
      • Failing the skill check will let Ghostface slice them.

    I don't know. Something like Wraith + Hag, where they can be stealthy, but can also be multiple places.

    Imagine working on a gen and keeping the nearby locker in view because you're not sure if something's going to come out of it...

    I think this is a great idea for incorporating him into the game. I hope they do add Ghostface, he has good potential to bring something new and unique to this game. They could make it so there's a ringtone go off every time he moves lockers.

  • This idea is awesome. The older killers' mori animations are a bit boring compared to the new ones and in need of updating in my opinion.

  • @Coriander said:
    You've got some great ideas! The cemetery is particularly nice. Perhaps combine that with underground and make catacombs? Bodies/tombs all over! Definitely something they should look into for the future killers (more ghosts, please!)

    It would be so cool if they added the Paris Catacombs as a map.

  • The devs have explained that the realm of The Entity is like a bad dream where you are restricted in your actions so I doubt this could happen. But maybe something done in the real world could happen that kills The Entity. I don't know what that would be though. Maybe destroying the real world version of the maps could effect it so it has nothing to copy, therefore ruining its twisted game.

  • @JusticeZERO said:

    @Psylocker101 said:
    Possibly I find her backstory to be quite strange comparing to the others, I believe that she is the 1st survivor in a long chain of survivor backstories that will reveal more about the entity. From what I can recall no one else actually saw anything they just appeared by the campfire, or am I mistaken?
    If I am not she is the 1st one to see the entity ( or the actual cause of it ) appearing in that forest.

    Hopefully this is the start of the devs addressing "Please add more lore" since it hasn't really been expanded upon in awhile.

    That would be cool if she ACTUALLY summoned the entity, like maybe all of the survivors summoned the entity in their own ways and we just never knew? ret-con incoming lol :chuffed:

    I really hope they go more into depth with the lore. I don't know if my idea is too far-fetched, but then again, the whole lore itself is obscure and crazy. It really would be interesting if all of the survivors summoned The Entity in some way. They never really did give very many details around how the other survivors were taken so I guess it's possible.