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what wonders me is that survivors tell killer how to play the game (what perks should not be used, what strategy should not be applied) but all killers complain is about tbaging, prolonging the the game by not leaving when they can. Killer`s compains are about things that has no impact direct on gameplay itself but about social aspect.
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@SMitchell8 said:
Spot on. Lurking nearby using the hooked survivor is a baiting tactic, like you said, why should you walk off and put the kettle on....
because thats how i avoid whining, bashing and all sort of accusation in chat.
i walk away and patienlty w8.
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> the guy that get camped is completely gameplay ruined
btw what is that argument? Now im saying about literally facecamping (not what you call camping aka sometimes checking hook) so he is going to die , his teammates will complete 2-4 gens so what? He is going to find new game and thats it You say like he has some sort of trauma for life.
does the killer has trauma when he can hook only one or two people per a game and 3 gens are done in 2 minutes? What if killer did not get a single kill? should survivors make a suicide and care about his gamplay expirience?
i myself think a have a real trauma espesialy when after a hard chase i got blinded by a flashlight, can you care about my gameplay expirence and my fun and stop using flashlight? Imagine chasing an imporant target for a minute breaking all the pallens, winning mindgames and then losing you reward in a second
All what i read on this forum seem like a some sort of a trolling
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@RoMainPuppy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1475088#Comment_1475088
Your objective(s), aka plural, are to stop the survivors from doing gens, chasing them, preventing them from powering the gates, and killing them. Your main objective is pressure. If you're just staring one survivor in the face until they're dead you're not doing your objective at all. The rest'll just gen rush you and teabag at the gates, and then you wonder why you only got a 1k. SMH.
ok, what if nobody does the gens ( they are at 0 progress ) or 2 of 4 survs are dead? I bet most of camping complains comes after such situations.
How will you explain this situiation? killer knows that nobody does the gens should he pretend he does not understnad what is going on and where survs is heading?
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camping means nothing more that a playstyle that includes protecting a hook you patrol the gens and a surv on a hook
also dont feed me this about CAMPING IS BAD BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE.... lol why would survs care about losing killer? never seen them doing that expect when they talk about camping. This is laughable.
> other survivors can enjoy the saving and chase moments
actually what you saying is other survivors can enjoy the free saving without any risk or strategy because killer forced not to def his victim
stop feed this nonsense about camping, everyone got that and almost nobody does that expect at 20th ranks i mean literally camping, sometimes people just protect a hook (they walk around gen and a hook and you dont want them doing that)
also i have a question what are you suppose to do if there are no one is on gens? Should you pretend you dont understand what is going on?
What if there is one surv is on hook and the other is alive and the rest are dead? Should you pretend you dont understand what is going on?
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what penalty? did i miss something?
also what is killer suppose to do if there are 3 survs at full health gates are open and only one is on hook?
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ah, yes, i forgot, if survs are suffering with several minutes of slug tell me who tbags on the gates 90% of time and who was prolonging a game for 10-20-30 minutes before patch with endgame collapse was released? Was it a killer that did not want to end the match and was simply running around?
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@hillbillyclaudmain69 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1475703#Comment_1475703
When I play killer I have no problem with ds. And although I'm a survivor main(was killer but l2 on my controller broke so I cant use powers until I get a new controller I changed it to square so now the only killer I can play are legion, hag etc.) I have never thought of it as unbalanced. I havent gotten hit by it in months. I go for other people, slug or eat a four second stun and kill them off early game. Ds unbreakable isn't really a problem for me anyways as i go for more slugs than hooks. I slug early game and typically use up unbreakable then. Either way I have two people at least off gens so I'm chilling.
@hillbillyclaudmain69 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1473917#Comment_1473917
Ok tell me what dev said it was anti tunnel. It was never meant to be anti tunnel. Thats the community saying that. It is anti momentum. Just go for someone else. Ds is only every a problem at endgame. Its a 4 second stun. 20 seconds later, theyre hooked again and its gone. Ds unbreakable is also fine as its one time use. Slug, get rid of unbreakable and avoid ds. Or eat the stun so its gone at endgame. Ds is fine.
"just go for someone else" , "20 seconds later they are hooked again", "just eat the stun" , when "i play killer i have no problem with ds", "never gotten it by it in months".
you sound like an insane player nothing stops you, you never fall in to critical situations, you can always go for someone else , distances or time is not a problem for you, you never have a game where each second matters and you should not waste your time. The rest of plaeys are not so good me including and some strong features like DS a problem for us espesialy when DS is in the hands of SWF and they use it for agressive gamplay
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not sure if i got the idea of the topic but if this is about killer`s tbag it is lol.
survs tbgas almost each game , you can open streams of hexy/tru3talte/otzdarva you will see that they are tbagged and bashed in chat all the time desptie they always try to follows unwritten rules
also killers always in a disadvantage because 4 people vs 1 in chat
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the perk should be reworked
they can add even 30 seconds to this perk but it should be cancled if surv starts repairing gen/healing others etc
the most frustrating thing is when you make a circle round map see injured survs reparing gen you put them in to the dying state, then you are picking them up and you get stunned.
then you curse all this "antitullening" stuff people talking about
im fifne with anti tunneling if everyone demans it but when insolent surv starts playing agressive it has nothing to do with antitunneling they simply feel their immortality, they can finish an important gen and so on.
also 1 minute espesially in the late game is INSANE amout of time. I count each second when i play killer 5-10 seconds wasted seconds means i missed a gen.
This is insane even at the beggining because good survs can make 2-3 gens in several mintues.
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@PlaysByShady said:
So, I played Myers in Lerys yesterday, and got him up to infinite Tier 3, and killed off two survivors by the time we're down to one gen. This took about 5 mins or so.
Thankfully, for whatever reason, the survivors had 3-gen'd themselves. So what do you think I did? I patrolled the gens, looking for activity, and whenever I found signs of activity I would search and chase where possible. But all the while ensuring I was never too far from the gens to allow the other survivor to complete them. They actually got to the point where one gen was almost done (all 4 pistons were pumping furiously).
But of course, with Myer's large terror radius, they'd run and hide before I could get there, and with that particular gen I hung around to ensure it regressed because the other two weren't on, so I wasn't worried about those at all.
Eventually, after about 20 mins or so of a stale-mate, they slip up and make mistakes (though tbf, I had insidious as well which I started to put into use - not my build, it was requested), which I capitalised on and killed them both (without needing to slug because the runner didn't bother to hide their tracks).
Cue end-game lobby, I'm accused of being a "Gen-camper", and the salt of all the kingdoms of all the worlds were invoked upon me.
Gen-camping?? Seriously? Is there nothing that survivors won't complain about when a game doesn't go their way?
Honestly, it makes me worry how dumb some people are when they expect me to literally walk away from protecting the gens which, as the killer, is literally my objective!! Like, they literally expect me to walk away and let them complete everything just so they can t-bag me at the gate and shout about how brilliant they are and how I'm a noob.
Yeesh...
wow, it actaully a reality , i created topic when joked about camping of gens
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/174052/friendly-reminder#latest
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i dont think devs care about this, but thank you now at least you can open gates and lunch a timer.
@vector said:
So exit gates are open, all survs are alive, all survs are healthy.
but i have no option to end game as killer
why shoud i suffer for 10-15 minutes of their trolling/seacrhing? Its enourmus time, main phase of game requires less time than the stage which goes after. I have no chance to catch them, small chance to even find them, i have to just sit in alt tab and wait for mercy of survs.In addition i want say that often when 1-2 gen and 1-2 survs remain they literaly do not do anything but hide, how is that normal? why i have to run all over empty map for 20-40 minutes? There must be normal system of punishment for that/ system of notification surv`s location etc.
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@Khakuate said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1460763#Comment_1460763
So only cause a streamer didn't get the 5 gen 4k the game is straight up unbalanced? Nice logic there bud.
@Aztreonam78 said:
Answering the title, Survivors must be able to do gens very quickly in order to counter Killers following such tactics like hard camping and hard tunneling.
lol in my recent match gen was complited so fast that game did not even count it also the same happed in a game of one pretty popular streamer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CdIwSJRjFE&t=162s
camping hard tunnelung lol, usualy 2 gens are done in red ranks in first 2-3 min in this time you might not even hook a surv for once
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also sometimes in lobby i see as 3-4 survs at last seconds alltogether suddenly take flashlights.
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for christ sake, are they planningt o lock addons/killers and in the same time not to lock survs?
i dont even want to talk about balance or something this just means they are completly out of their mind
so if i join lobby and see bunch of friend with 2-4k hours each i wont be able even change addons/killers/perks because they will be locked ?
this sounds terrible
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@vector said:
Surv starts reparing gen after unhooking? decisive strike is canceled
But he wants to reapair the gen that is right near his hook at 60% of progress... well thats mean he prefers risk over safety and can be punished for it
Surv is fully healed after unhooking? decisive strike is canceled
if he has time for doing it it means he is not being "tunneled"
if he has time for healing it means killer has to put down a healthy survivor.
now this is not an "antitunneling" perk but perk of insolence
Surv starts reparing gen after unhooking? decisive strike is canceled
But he wants to reapair the gen that is right near his hook at 60% of progress... well thats mean he prefers risk over safety and can be punished for it
Surv is fully healed after unhooking? decisive strike is canceled
if he has time for doing it it means he is not being "tunneled"
if he has time for healing it means killer has to put down a healthy survivor.
now this is not an "antitunneling" perk but perk of insolence
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@kahleesi143 said:
Why is the not more done to the people who only tunnel and camp. I feel like the game is allowing people to just tunnel and camp as if this is normal game play. There is no icon that I would say falls in the category of bad toxic killer. These killers get all their points while players who have waited almost 20 min for a match get killed off in 5 to 10 min because the killer stays on the person making it almost impossible to get any objective or altruism points. The game is challenging but these sweaty toxic killers make it nearly impossible to play which then makes me want to find a new game
im literally shocked by logic of this community, killer must kill as much as efficently as he can , why should he care about your altruism points? If killer stays on one person it means all gens are free to repair. But this is not the point, actually what you say is killer does not allow you free unhooking and you are very upset because of it, you would like to without any thinking or tactics just rush straight for unhooking
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if he kills you and wins the game he is a good killer
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@DemonDaddy said:
Killers suffered from hatch standoffs and gate teabagging for a long time. Its to be expected that a few want to revel in gaining control over what was practically a free escape.
i dont think this is the reason, guess many people just want to see new animation at work, also killers could "abuse" survs even before patch by putting the last surv in dying state and not hook him or putting two survs and noot hook them.
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@Alithra said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/465613#Comment_465613
Some survivors? Sure. Me? Never. I do not derserve this. I never had this attitude and always reported anyone doing this. Just because some people hid in the map for 15 mins doesn't mean it's okay to make EVERYONE (not only them) agonize in the floor now for 4 minutes. Put them in a hook or give an option to make it instant, or put a timer of 30 seconds downed with EGC = Trigger the end, but not 4 minutes with the killer staring at you doing this on purpose. 15 minutes is not okay, but 4 minutes is not okay either,
well i agree with you , but after many many games(almost each badly lost game means tbaging and hiding prolonging the game for 5-15 min by survs just because they can do so) as killer i cant undestand your panic because only 3-4 min its not a big deal
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i remember when i played for killer sometimes i waited for like 10-15 min just because heathy survs despite opened exit gates decided to run for fun around empty map
>. Don't make me waste my time for your amusement. Not everyone has 24 hours a day to spend playing. If I die, I die and move on to another match, but this will make me waste time I could spend playing and enjoying a new game instead of agonizing and wishing to disconnect just to deny him the points for being an ass.
god, this makes me so angry. For years survs in any possibility have been trying to troll killer and now after only one day since the release of new patch survs immediately start to complain because some killers hold them for 3-4 min!
p.s i even had a topic about https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/11364/option-to-end-game
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1ju
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well quit counter strike because people use grenades, quit footbal because people kick ball to each other and you cant chase the ball because of that.
i think we need one more unwritten rule, a killer can not hit a surv 2 times in a row thats unfair because surv falls in dying state
you want always win and you always want a competly free of all problesm route to your friend thats the problem.
Community of this game has to realize that games about winning, not about whining. Kilelr must win the game by all possible legitimate means and survs must do the same.
just tell you what camping REALY menas, it means killier searching the map and guards his victim same time in other words a good a logical way of playing
i have never seen survs compaining to each in chat other after they prolonged game for like 10 minus by hiding somewhere on map just for fun when exit gates are already open and they have full health. thats a completly legit practice and if you play not your best killer that can kill everybody you will encounter such sitiations often
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is this game a joke? w8 i have w8 about 10 min after ending of game?
devs do your job you have not fixed it for 2 years since release?
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this game has obvious problems, this game seems just undeveloped, why the hell should i waste 5-10 my time for nothing?
no other game has such stupid mechanic, just imagine 5-10 mins of wating in dota/cs because one person after end of round decide to walk around map etc?
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