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God you need to learn how to read I never derank I stated that it would take you five months to do so with the new system being what it is being unable to pip down, the guy is a noob obviously, cut your bullshit out defending killers who are complaining about nothing, it’s despicable you’re trying to say this guy is deranking and dying first at rank twenty already are you that remedial, we need to write things out with a crayon for @Tsulan also apparently if he thought I was derankingTsulan said:
There is no legit argument to purposely derank to face new players. The rank 20 survivor, OP complained about, was a experienced player who didn't belong there.shasta said:
See you my friend have a legit argument here I don’t blame you at all for being upset , but would you be mad if you killed a rank 20 and found out he had perks afterwards? I think these people fail to realize you can stack points on a character before playing the game mode , I know all kinds of people who played killer before survivor just to be an iconic characterredsopine1 said:shasta said:
This right here is what people should be upset about not what OP is posting, if I were a rank 15 survivor trying to go to twenty it would take 5 months to do with the new system....Boss said:I sometimes get rank 1s & 2s in my low/mid rank lobbies.
It's due to SWF. (Apparently.)
As if i didn't despise that mode enough...
ikr heck I'm still trying to get to green ranks with my p1jake (have bad games like minor lag probably my bad for broadcasting my games) or my most common issue is having 3man swf teams loading in and getting me tunnled by blowing my gens unsafe hooks making noise using bond to find me as there running all that bs)
Same goes for you. You said it took you 5 months to reach rank 20.
This isn't something to be proud of.
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I think the problem is more of the devs didn’t expect this game to take off the way it did , hences why dedicated servers are still not a thing, but I think they expected it to be a casually played game that would give you a scare when you wanted a different kind of game or a horror night ,but it blew up and they have players that play nothing but this game and have gotten over the scare effect and figured out ways to effectively counter what’s happening in game and now the player base is bigger than ever, so now they’re trying to balance it as a competitive type game instead of the casual type to make rank rewards and other things competitive games have, they’ve saw the demand but it’s such a huge change it’s nearly impossible to do all at once and they’ve put so much money in added content and patch notes that dead by daylight 2 isn’t a optionNickenzie said:
I agree that the game is in a better place than before, you got a great point there. However the problem still stands with going against SWF. 4 equally skilled players going against a equally skilled killer that is not the Nurse will get destroyed, period. I know that teamwork overwhelms the power role but currently it's too easy to have great teamwork in my opinion.shasta said:
Over the past year killers have been getting buffed slowly , people act like the game is unplayable even if they 4K every game because they don’t want a challenge they want a easy win that they don’t have to stress over , killer is more stressful because your objective can elude you but it’s not very hard, if this were a year ago I may agree with you but the game right now is in a very good placeMrbombastic said:
Thats obvious code to give major buffs to killer got it 👍se05239 said:If the majority is SWF players, then the game needs to be balanced around SWFs. And this doesn't mean providing solo survivors with the same knowledge as SWFs (because that'd make SWFs even stronger) but rather power up the Power role's influence on the playing field.
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Apparently in another thread a killer main who has thousands of hours claims all survivors suck balls after bitching about a buff 3 weeks ago I guess something changed between now and thenTsulan said:
Translation: killers only need to equip hangman's + iron grip + agitation to counter sabotage, lightborn and Franklin's for Flashlights, ruin + pop goes the weasel + overcharge against gen rush, enduring + brutal Strength + bamboozle to counter looping, and we haven't even started on the perks required to counter actual survivor perks...shasta said:
The killer is stronger , the problem is people refuse to change play style or perk builds to accommodate what they need , they think they should be able to play how they want and not change a thing and still win every single timeRotBb said:
I have 500+ hours in game, wdym “new player”? I’m currently sitting at rank seven as killer, and I got to rank one as Amanda last season, I’m not a new killer and I wasn’t saying it wasn’t harder back then, what I was saying is that the game can’t ever be balanced because the killer is supposed to be stronger than the survivors unless they work together.altruistic said:Imagine thinking Killer at the moment is hard.
You clearly never played Killer in 2016, or 2017.
So many new players think they’re better than they actually are. They play against better people and immediately think it’s the games fault. Gamers today in a nutshell.
Game has never been easier for both sides.
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No way man test it right now and get a couple buddies in kyf you just have to start the blind early I promise it worksVisionmaker said:
It's effective 100% of the time with the reduced pick up. You need two survivors flashlighting at the same time to break through LB and even that's shifty.shasta said:
☝️☝️ Good advice but don’t trust lightborn 100% of the time because a good survivor will just start the blind sooner and still get you, it only grants so much of an immunity but not completely immuneshadowsfall42 said:With the faster pickup time, survivor absolutely don't have the time to walk around you, if your back is to them. If you think a survivor is near and waiting for a flashlight save, turn around and quickly pick them up. Faking the pickup is also an option. You can actually fake it pretty well with Trapper and and Hag because using their power looks similar to pickup.
Facing a wall is 100% the best option and if you're aware of flashlights being in play, it's the only guaranteed option.
Perkwise, Lightborn makes it downright impossible to be blinded and Franklin's Demise gets rid of those nasty flashlights but requires you to actually hit. I find flashlights really rare since the pickup time was decreased. -
Lol you would wish I were one of those if you ever faced meScottJund said:
"Just lightburn the Nurse. But like not at short range. Do it long range as she's charging it, with your Sniper Flashlight that goes across the map."shasta said:
I guarantee I’m a better survivor than you because I don’t derank to impress anyone and the timing isn’t hard you just have to know when to start your burn and it is definitely a counter to the blink if used properly, does it work well with short range blinks? No not if she’s already on your ass but when the nurse first is approaching it’s not so hard and you can use it to get away, I’ve saw your streams your not even a good survivor and anyone who deranks doesn’t even deserve an opinion on here because you just do it to play with newer players or those who don’t play the game often, you must be so good huh? Deranking to impress your stream and still sucking hahaJendenise said:@shasta said:
Elegant said:There are zero nurse counters. You can't counter her. The only way you win vs Nurse is for the Nurse to play badly. If you play well and the Nurse plays well you lose every single time.That's not balance.
There are plenty of ways to mind game the nurse and you can even burn her with a flashlight while she’s charging a blink , you just need someone to go into kyf and figure out what works for your play style
Okay, this statement alone makes me feel as though you rarely play survivor. That's incredibly difficult to do these days with new blind timing. You can only burn a nurse if she's incredibly bad. It's a waste to even try burning her. Only time we do it is when 2-3 of us blind at the same time. You could say this if insta blinds were still a thing...
Anyway, a truly skilled nurse against most groups is unstoppable (ie. svekeren, zubatlel, etc). You also fail to mention that many nurses run more than 2 blinks and omegablink as well (ataxic and pinecone) which is incredibly strong. You must LOS a nurse and know when to double back or not, and a good nurse has excellent prediction, so sometimes you're just #########. I don't know your skill level, the way you play nurse, or your survivor experience, but saying that burning her with a flashlight is a counter is a big yikes.
I guarantee you're one of those adorable survivors that points their flashlight at the killer while slowly walking backwards until you get hit. -
You’re joking right ? Lol consoles are the wild Wild West until dedicated servers become a thing , BHVR says they are working on implementing console bans soon but I think it will require the dedicated servers to be effective
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Lol because from 10 on down to the noob ranks are so far apart right?Jendenise said:@DeadByFlashlight said:
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You obviously haven't read my posts. I didn't insult you, so why are you so heated? I explained really clearly as to why I do what I do. It isn't for easy games. There are easy games at rank 1. If you are a better survivor than me, that's fine, but it isn't relevant really. What counters a good nurse? LOS and knowing when to double back...iron will and whatnot, but certainly not burning her. Can you do that every time? To ONLY bad nurses, and I'm sure nurse mains here will back me up on that, at least. Anyway, I'm happy for you and your confidence in survivor
Yet you derank and play against lowrank killers with your SWF, even using DS flashlights and all that stuff.
If that isnt easy mode, then I dont know what to sayi like the part where you didnt actually address anything she said
I watched her stream.
Deranking and then reking low rank killers while calling them "baby killers" and bullying them with DS/flashlight and then complaining about "noob killers camping" etc. I mean, what should I say about that? I think this fact speaks for itselfWhen's the last time you watched my stream? 2016? lmao. I don't think I've said noob unironically in a long time. If I call someone out for camping, it's merely stating a fact, not insulting them over it. What is the issue with flashlights? Do you not know how to counter them? Also, with DS, I have used it over the last couple weeks, but before that, I hadn't used DS in a very long time. But, I do think being condescending and ######### towards someone outside of the game is pretty crappy tbh. Someone isn't a bad person because they choose to use a certain build and set of addons or play both sides a certain way? Also...again...I don't think you read my first response in this thread. Do you honestly think there is a huge difference in skill with people at rank 1 and people at rank 10? You act like I'm in the rank 13-20 range, which I refuse to be at.
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Lol who cares anyway? Only a bunch of whiny babies get mad over a bunch of pixels moving up and down on a screen , when I play killer I just troll them back with mori spammingbrokedownpalace said:I do it when a killer tries to tunnel me super hard and I still managed to escape. Just two quick taps then I'm out the exit. And it's 100% deserved when a killer camps from their first down on and never does anything else. -
It’s not like we’re killing people in this game and they are worried about manners lmaoFishcat said:@Link said:
It's the equivalent of giving someone the middle finger, unless there is a intended taunt mechanic like new emotes in the game or something then i just see teabagging as rude and childish.@se05239 said:
It's considered toxic behavior and bad mannerism. Since you practice it because people get mad, I'd say that it's pretty accurate.Rude and bad mannerism lel are you a boy scout or something
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Just give survivors a middle finger emote so there’s no mistaking a hello or ######### you
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I’m not telling anyone to piss off but for their own sake if a game makes them that unhappy they probably shouldBoss said:@shasta said:
Boss said:
Dreamnomad said:The killer cry threads... how is it the only side that can kill or injure anyone are the ones constantly crying on the forums? Honestly, you should quit. You don't deserve to play as the killer if all you are going to do is whine and cry about how the defenseless survivors are bullying you.
It's not up to you who should and shouldn't play.
Maybe not but honestly @Boss he’s not wrong , killers are in a so much better place than they were a year ago that if you still have that much of a problem that you constantly cry , then why play? If I was that bad at this game I wouldn’t play it if it made me feel that way
Okay, so you'd quit if it makes you feel that way.
But you're not that person.
I'm not saying they're right, and i do agree Killers have it much better now.
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I almost wish they would at this point these people will never be happy @powerbats it’s the same group of people and then you have people like @Orion who find reasons to disagree even when you don’t mean it that way and then complain about posts getting derailed by survivors when everyone starts turning on himpowerbats said:@shasta said:
powerbats said:@shasta said:
just go ahead and give me a month ban I could use the break honestly to keep me off here for a while
I don't think I've seen anyone get a solid 1 month ban, jailed yes where you're posting privileges are reduced and the dreaded perma ban in bright red. But you'd still be able to see stuff posted in either case and besides you'd miss something good if you stepped away.
Red isn’t permanent or @Lowbei would still be gone
Well permanent in the sense that the avatar shows permanently banned.
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Red isn’t permanent or @Lowbei would still be gonepowerbats said:@shasta said:
@Peanits @MandyTalk
just go ahead and give me a month ban I could use the break honestly to keep me off here for a whileI don't think I've seen anyone get a solid 1 month ban, jailed yes where you're posting privileges are reduced and the dreaded perma ban in bright red. But you'd still be able to see stuff posted in either case and besides you'd miss something good if you stepped away.
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@Peanits @MandyTalk
just go ahead and give me a month ban I could use the break honestly to keep me off here for a while -
Well it works for me when I burn her but like I said it’s only when the nurse is first approaching me not while I’m already in chase , I don’t mean to insult I apologize, I need to take a break from reading forum posts because in my world the game is balanced I can play both sides without issue and when I see all these posts acting like everything is op it drives me crazy and my eye twitches from the OCD of wanting to correct them , then again I’m at 5 devotion points I probably just need to quit playingJendenise said:You obviously haven't read my posts. I didn't insult you, so why are you so heated? I explained really clearly as to why I do what I do. It isn't for easy games. There are easy games at rank 1. If you are a better survivor than me, that's fine, but it isn't relevant really. What counters a good nurse? LOS and knowing when to double back...iron will and whatnot, but certainly not burning her. Can you do that every time? To ONLY bad nurses, and I'm sure nurse mains here will back me up on that, at least. Anyway, I'm happy for you and your confidence in survivor
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Sorry guess I misunderstood I know I’m not the best in the world at this game but I definitely am not the worst and I think majority of the problem was the tutorial glitch that I heard got patched recently, so this rank season we should see higher skill at red ranksSovererignKing said:@Jendenise @shasta
Didn't think I’d have to spell this out, but, alright then...
First off, Shasta, stop taking this personally. That’s not what this is about.
Now then, the reason is very simple : It only takes one good Survivor to change the whole outcome of a match. Shasta, you may very well *be* that one good Survivor. Jendenise, you should know by now all it takes is one good Survivor to carry a whole team of potato Survivors. Any Survivor can easily play Gen Jockey. All it takes is one good Survivor to carry a team. One good Survivor not even using the meta mind you, to Loop a Killer, do safe hook saves, ect.
The rest of the team can easily just Gen Jockey, maybe get caught once, do a lucky hook save (or hell, just toss on Borrowed Time for a guaranteed “safe unhook” score event), and escape off the hard work of just ONE Survivor busting his balls. This in place effect “boost” those Survivor’s Rank. They can play “immersion Claudette” all they want. They’ll still pip if they just Gen Jockey while the *real* Survivor does all the hard work. Now imagine that *already* actually good Survivor is packing the DS/SB/BT/SC meta? Catching my point here? ONE Survivor can carry a whole team, hard. Where do you think all these “boosted” Survivors come from?
Question : What do you think happens when there *isn’t* one of those good Survivors on the team. Where the whole team is a bunch of these “boosted” Survivors?
Answer : They get slaughtered by a Killer who actually isn’t really that good at all. Which “boost” him up the ranks. Not because he is good, but because he faced a bunch of boosted crap Survivors who didn’t luck out and get that one good Survivor to carry their asses.
Granted, NOED can also boost a ######### Killer beyond his rank, something I’ve vehemently said is NOED needs deleted. It’s a ######### crutch perk that boost Killers. Same with DS for Survivors, and a host of other Survivor perks need a strong looking at, but nothing major. Just some minor tweaks.
The big problem with the balance of the game is that ONE good Survivor can carry a team. Hard. I have advocated for Killer buffs and Survivor nerfs. However, not without due deliberation. The maps are now balanced imo. Loops are fine now as is. The developers can not do anything more with Pallet Count or Loops without cold cucking Survivors. Minor perks need tweaking on both sides. Mostly the Survivor meta.
This is simply because the Survivor meta is based on one thing : Being near on totally self sufficient in a team oriented game. You’re either the number role, or the power role. With the meta perks, a single Survivor can be self sufficient to the point they don’t even need more than one or two team mates. Never mind 3 others. If all four run the meta? What is even the point of having that many on the numbers side if they’re THAT self sufficient and powerful on their own?
Gen Rush is really the biggest issue plaguing the game. As I said, boosted Survivors can easy make it to high rank just playing Gen Jockey while ONE Survivor does all the hard work. The developers have focused too hard core on giving that ONE Survivor so much of a chance, it’s redundant to have four Survivors in the match.
You want to see better play from both Killers and Survivors who deserve their Rank? Get rid of NOED. Nerf the damn Survivor meta. Stop the Survivors being able to Rush the gens in 4-5 minutes flat. Stop letting Survivors be so stupidly self sufficient they don’t even NEED much teamwork. -
Friendly advice, remove the N word from your post I know someone will see that and report you even though you don’t mean it in any type of way , just seeing it triggers quite a few peopleChesterTheMolester said:
I have 14 messages calling me a nig-ger since August, among them 3 voice messages, and im just counting the ones that called me a [BAD WORD] for some reason.Khalednazari said:
This cannot continue. I'm not asking for something that's unreasonable. Fair play should be promoted and discriminatory play should be punished.ChesterTheMolester said:Yeah the console community has gone completely nuts since they are announced that they dont even have an ETA for console moderation.
I never contacted anyone first.
Granted such salt equals like a badge of honor for me but this ######### just cant stand.
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I guarantee I’m a better survivor than you because I don’t derank to impress anyone and the timing isn’t hard you just have to know when to start your burn and it is definitely a counter to the blink if used properly, does it work well with short range blinks? No not if she’s already on your ass but when the nurse first is approaching it’s not so hard and you can use it to get away, I’ve saw your streams your not even a good survivor and anyone who deranks doesn’t even deserve an opinion on here because you just do it to play with newer players or those who don’t play the game often, you must be so good huh? Deranking to impress your stream and still sucking hahaJendenise said:@shasta said:
Elegant said:There are zero nurse counters. You can't counter her. The only way you win vs Nurse is for the Nurse to play badly. If you play well and the Nurse plays well you lose every single time.That's not balance.
There are plenty of ways to mind game the nurse and you can even burn her with a flashlight while she’s charging a blink , you just need someone to go into kyf and figure out what works for your play style
Okay, this statement alone makes me feel as though you rarely play survivor. That's incredibly difficult to do these days with new blind timing. You can only burn a nurse if she's incredibly bad. It's a waste to even try burning her. Only time we do it is when 2-3 of us blind at the same time. You could say this if insta blinds were still a thing...
Anyway, a truly skilled nurse against most groups is unstoppable (ie. svekeren, zubatlel, etc). You also fail to mention that many nurses run more than 2 blinks and omegablink as well (ataxic and pinecone) which is incredibly strong. You must LOS a nurse and know when to double back or not, and a good nurse has excellent prediction, so sometimes you're just #########. I don't know your skill level, the way you play nurse, or your survivor experience, but saying that burning her with a flashlight is a counter is a big yikes. -
Unless you get dedicated servers or pay Sony reps to deal with the reports it won’t happen because sony doesn’t have the best network and the first thing that will happen when someone gets banned is they will call them and blame their faulty network servers they are known to have , say they just bought the ps plus for that game and then ask for a refund for the entire year of ps plus they bought along with call centers being overwhelmed with callers just to complain about a ban they got that they felt wasn’t justified and they may even ask for a refund on the game if digitally purchased and say it’s not the game they bought at first and has changed too much, there are plenty of variables that could go wrong without dedicated serversPeanits said:You don't need a poll, console bans are already on the way. Can't say when just yet, but it's being worked on.
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☝️☝️ Good advice but don’t trust lightborn 100% of the time because a good survivor will just start the blind sooner and still get you, it only grants so much of an immunity but not completely immuneshadowsfall42 said:With the faster pickup time, survivor absolutely don't have the time to walk around you, if your back is to them. If you think a survivor is near and waiting for a flashlight save, turn around and quickly pick them up. Faking the pickup is also an option. You can actually fake it pretty well with Trapper and and Hag because using their power looks similar to pickup.
Facing a wall is 100% the best option and if you're aware of flashlights being in play, it's the only guaranteed option.
Perkwise, Lightborn makes it downright impossible to be blinded and Franklin's Demise gets rid of those nasty flashlights but requires you to actually hit. I find flashlights really rare since the pickup time was decreased. -
There are plenty of ways to mind game the nurse and you can even burn her with a flashlight while she’s charging a blink , you just need someone to go into kyf and figure out what works for your play styleElegant said:There are zero nurse counters. You can't counter her. The only way you win vs Nurse is for the Nurse to play badly. If you play well and the Nurse plays well you lose every single time.That's not balance.
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Again I don’t think you get what I’m saying, read what the hell ive been replying to above and you’ll realize why I say that, I understand the dc in those situations except the hacker because why lose 2 pips? Just let them kill you and move on , but people saying they dc because they start a man short or want to derank but wait until their second hook is ######### dumb and so are you if you advocate that, I think anyone with a brain cell gets what I’m saying , next time I’ll word it a slight bit different and write it with a crayon so @Orion understandsOrion said:@shasta said:
Ok? So you admit it’s a super rarity but still decide to be an #########? If you read what I was replying to you would realize what I was saying but you go through all these posts and find stupid ######### to disagree about even when people don’t mean it that way , it’s absurd that you would waste your time with thatThe specific situation is not significant. I simply used an example that no thinking person would disagree with for the sake of clarity. Since you didn't get it, I'll give you more relatable examples.
- I'm stuck in terrain, no way to get out. DCing is fine.
- I can't interact with anything and nobody can interact with me. DCing is fine.
- I'm playing against a hacker. DCing is fine.
That's off the top of my head.
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I think we need dedicated servers before this is even a thoughtTsulan said:
It could get big with esports. Rainbow 6 managed to pull this off.powerbats said:@Tsulan said:
When did they say that?
This, the game isn't really big enough to draw an esport crowd yet, at least not one where you'd get sponsors and such to make it worthwhile. They also have to finish the balance changes they want to do and realistically write the new code.
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As I do agree killers need certain QOL changes more than a buff, if you did this then survivors outnumber the killers and it would become worse than what it is now and actually backtrack, the only real answer is forcing devs from both sides to constantly stay at rank one and be unable to pop below it to always have a idea of what’s going on at the topNickenzie said:
They could just open a random thread like they did with the lore questions and ask for balance advice. Then they can look at the majority and ask the community if they agree with the majority before they actually start to balance the game.Lowbei said:...or we can ignore the problem and enjoy the mediocrity. -
According to @SovererignKing every survivor sucks balls @Lowbei, even states it in the thread, so why are buffs needed?Lowbei said:so your swf pals derank to crush low ranked killers because balanced games arent “fun” to you.
you can word it differently, write a huge thread about it, but nothing changes that fact.
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Ok? So you admit it’s a super rarity but still decide to be an #########? If you read what I was replying to you would realize what I was saying but you go through all these posts and find stupid ######### to disagree about even when people don’t mean it that way , it’s absurd that you would waste your time with thatOrion said:@powerbats said:
No but how often do we hear emergency excuses from those that're basically crying wolf in order to abuse the system? The rarity of these events will preclude you from ever getting over that threshold.
I know. I was just pointing out how stating that it is always wrong to disconnect is absurd.
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That’s not every survivor @Jendenise and I’ll guarantee you wouldn’t say I suck or any of the people I play with, don’t you intentionally derank to stay away from those people? I’ve heard quite a number of people call you out for it hereJendenise said:@shasta said:
SovererignKing said:@ScottJund It’s not that you rank up “too fast” it’s that Survivors rank up too slowly. They rank up slowly because they get bodied and suck balls at the game since a lot of their broken bullshit got fixed recently. Insta-blinds gone, Pallet Vaccum gone, BT getting nerfed so it’s not a brain dead “hook Rush for a freebie!”, and as of the most recent patch stupidly overpowered brain dead loops at buildings being blocked off.
The problem isnt the ranking system, the problem is that spoiled Survivors who were so used to abusing the ######### out of broken game mechanics, perks, and items can’t rank up anymore. Plain and simple : They suck balls now they don’t have as much broken ######### to abuse. Meanwhile Killers who were USED to dealing with the broken ######### are on such an insane skill level it’s like shooting fish in a barrel because the Survivors suck balls so hardcore, and the Killers have honed their skills to the point of insanity.
Its why Jendenise and other Survivors are deranking on purpose. They can’t win because they suck at the game. It’s why Killers like you and Tru3 can’t find games at higher rank. There just aren’t any Survivors cause they suck so bad at the game. They are trying to pull the same old bullshit they used to pull back when and get all pissy it doesn’t work anymore.
Dont blame the rank system, it’s just that Survivors suck balls.
I’m at rank one and I don’t have the problems you say, I’ll guarantee if you face me You won’t say I suck balls at this and if survivors suck so bad why do killers need any buffs at all? I’ve saw you advocate for killer buffs but here you are acting like nothing is needed
That actually legit confuses me too. I'm at red ranks regularly because I tend to end my streams around that range, and so many killers up there are straight up boosted. Like GOD awful. I find that more people ragequit up there, facecamp and throw games, etc. A lot of the survivors up there are immersed asf and have no clue what they're doing as soon as they're found. Hmm.
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12:26AM edited 1:11AM@ScottJund It’s not that you rank up “too fast” it’s that Survivors rank up too slowly. They rank up slowly because they get bodied and suck balls at the game since a lot of their broken bullshit got fixed recently. Insta-blinds gone, Pallet Vaccum gone, BT getting nerfed so it’s not a brain dead “hook Rush for a freebie!”, and as of the most recent patch stupidly overpowered brain dead loops at buildings being blocked off.
The problem isnt the ranking system, the problem is that spoiled Survivors who were so used to abusing the ######### out of broken game mechanics, perks, and items can’t rank up anymore. Plain and simple : They suck balls now they don’t have as much broken ######### to abuse. Meanwhile Killers who were USED to dealing with the broken ######### are on such an insane skill level it’s like shooting fish in a barrel because the Survivors suck balls so hardcore, and the Killers have honed their skills to the point of insanity.
Its why Jendenise and other Survivors are deranking on purpose. They can’t win because they suck at the game. It’s why Killers like you and Tru3 can’t find games at higher rank. There just aren’t any Survivors cause they suck so bad at the game. They are trying to pull the same old bullshit they used to pull back when and get all pissy it doesn’t work anymore.
Dont blame the rank system, it’s just that Survivors suck balls
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That’s when you take the free points and leave or you can get them to hook you and attempt to escape with no struggleJendenise said:@shasta said:
Abyssionknight said:If you want to depip you just disconnect at the very end. Right when you're getting death hooked, or right before you'd leave the map. Disconnecting at the start is incredibly toxic and ruins the game for everyone involved, and so I say that deserves a ban. Doing it at the end, especially if you do it in a fun way, doesn't result in you sandbagging your team or making the match too easy for the killer, so there's no reason anyone would report you for it.
If you know you're going to disconnect at the end of the match, it also means you don't have to take the match as seriously and can have a lot more fun practicing techniques, running unique builds, or even just practicing the fundamentals of the game. I'm not saying play like an idiot and feed yourself to the killer, just that you should have a little compassion and try to make your depip an experience that's useful and fun for you, as well as for everyone else involved.
Dc in any situation is wrong
Not true. I had a game yesterday where someone's game crashed at the start of the match. Left the game at 5 gens and 3 people. One person didn't do anything to progress the game. They didn't try running or anything. So essentially it was a 2v1. I can completely understand people disconnecting in that scenario, especially if the killer just wants to farm too, and won't kill you.
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I’m at rank one and I don’t have the problems you say, I’ll guarantee if you face me You won’t say I suck balls at this and if survivors suck so bad why do killers need any buffs at all? I’ve saw you advocate for killer buffs but here you are acting like nothing is neededSovererignKing said:@ScottJund It’s not that you rank up “too fast” it’s that Survivors rank up too slowly. They rank up slowly because they get bodied and suck balls at the game since a lot of their broken bullshit got fixed recently. Insta-blinds gone, Pallet Vaccum gone, BT getting nerfed so it’s not a brain dead “hook Rush for a freebie!”, and as of the most recent patch stupidly overpowered brain dead loops at buildings being blocked off.
The problem isnt the ranking system, the problem is that spoiled Survivors who were so used to abusing the ######### out of broken game mechanics, perks, and items can’t rank up anymore. Plain and simple : They suck balls now they don’t have as much broken ######### to abuse. Meanwhile Killers who were USED to dealing with the broken ######### are on such an insane skill level it’s like shooting fish in a barrel because the Survivors suck balls so hardcore, and the Killers have honed their skills to the point of insanity.
Its why Jendenise and other Survivors are deranking on purpose. They can’t win because they suck at the game. It’s why Killers like you and Tru3 can’t find games at higher rank. There just aren’t any Survivors cause they suck so bad at the game. They are trying to pull the same old bullshit they used to pull back when and get all pissy it doesn’t work anymore.
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Dc in any situation is wrongAbyssionknight said:If you want to depip you just disconnect at the very end. Right when you're getting death hooked, or right before you'd leave the map. Disconnecting at the start is incredibly toxic and ruins the game for everyone involved, and so I say that deserves a ban. Doing it at the end, especially if you do it in a fun way, doesn't result in you sandbagging your team or making the match too easy for the killer, so there's no reason anyone would report you for it.
If you know you're going to disconnect at the end of the match, it also means you don't have to take the match as seriously and can have a lot more fun practicing techniques, running unique builds, or even just practicing the fundamentals of the game. I'm not saying play like an idiot and feed yourself to the killer, just that you should have a little compassion and try to make your depip an experience that's useful and fun for you, as well as for everyone else involved.
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Can’t believe I’m saying this but I actually agree with you on thisNickenzie said:I know that a lot of killer mains are upset with how poor certain totems can be! I'm looking at the person at BHVR that came up with the hill totem with the devils eye! So, here are my solutions on how to make Hex perks less of a risk to run!
1.) Needed: Huntress Lullaby, Third Seal, and Devour Hope won't be lit until they receive their first token. Additionally make more totem spawn rules to prevent survivors from spawning directly beside a hex totem.
2.) Needed: Slightly nerf Thrill of the Hunt but make it a regular perk, not a hex.
3.) Optional: Hex totems will be blocked by the Entity for the first minute in the trial.
4.) Optional: Totems are not visible when standing outside 16 meters from the totem.
5.) Optional: Change maps to be more dynamic (Not flat like auto havens) with better geography to give more places for totems to hide in.
6.) Optional: Add more LoS blockers to totems to prevent them from being seen.
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Good to know, I just realized at the end of the match there is a section for itOrion said:@shasta said:
Seems fair to me , if they can block the killer than the killer should be able to do the same, report him for the dc if you’re on a computer or just move on.You don't need to report for DC, bans are handled automatically.
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The killer is stronger , the problem is people refuse to change play style or perk builds to accommodate what they need , they think they should be able to play how they want and not change a thing and still win every single timeRotBb said:
I have 500+ hours in game, wdym “new player”? I’m currently sitting at rank seven as killer, and I got to rank one as Amanda last season, I’m not a new killer and I wasn’t saying it wasn’t harder back then, what I was saying is that the game can’t ever be balanced because the killer is supposed to be stronger than the survivors unless they work together.altruistic said:Imagine thinking Killer at the moment is hard.
You clearly never played Killer in 2016, or 2017.
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Seems fair to me , if they can block the killer than the killer should be able to do the same, report him for the dc if you’re on a computer or just move on.Snapshot said:I can't understand survivors DCing for even very little/minor things.
For example, as nurse I once blocked a survivor in in a corner of a jungle gym (as he tried to doge my blinks) and then hit him two times to down him and then hooked him. He DC'd while hooking and stated that this was very unfair and that it also is bannable? It is my understanding, that this is very legit play, as the survivor maneuvered himself into this situation.
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Over the past year killers have been getting buffed slowly , people act like the game is unplayable even if they 4K every game because they don’t want a challenge they want a easy win that they don’t have to stress over , killer is more stressful because your objective can elude you but it’s not very hard, if this were a year ago I may agree with you but the game right now is in a very good placeMrbombastic said:
Thats obvious code to give major buffs to killer got it 👍se05239 said:If the majority is SWF players, then the game needs to be balanced around SWFs. And this doesn't mean providing solo survivors with the same knowledge as SWFs (because that'd make SWFs even stronger) but rather power up the Power role's influence on the playing field.
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Maybe not but honestly @Boss he’s not wrong , killers are in a so much better place than they were a year ago that if you still have that much of a problem that you constantly cry , then why play? If I was that bad at this game I wouldn’t play it if it made me feel that wayBoss said:
It's not up to you who should and shouldn't play.Dreamnomad said:The killer cry threads... how is it the only side that can kill or injure anyone are the ones constantly crying on the forums? Honestly, you should quit. You don't deserve to play as the killer if all you are going to do is whine and cry about how the defenseless survivors are bullying you.
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Bullying noobs for either side should be a big no no I agree with the banFibijean said:So my friend recently got a weeklong ban from the game for "unsportsmanlike behaviour" (first offence). Although he wasn't given any more clarification than that, my guess is that the ban was for the amount of times he's deliberately disconnected from games, and presumably the offence was so severe that they banned him for an entire week straight up instead of the usual 24 hours for first offence. Not contesting that, it sucks but I understand the rules.
The thing is, the reason he intentially disconnects is because he keeps ranking up when he doesn't want to. He would much rather be a lower rank simply because people tend to be nicer at low ranks, when they're either new or don't take the game so seriously. Honestly, I don't blame him. It's one of the reasons I enjoy swf with my lower ranked buddies.
As things stand, intentionally disconnecting or just playing really badly are the only ways to derank (short of just not playing at all and waiting for a new season to do its thing). Both of those methods make the game less enjoyable for other players, which is obviously why the former is bannable. So I understand the reasoning behind the ban, but I'm sure my friend isn't alone in his dilemma.
Is there a way to derank in a safe manner which doesn't impede on other players' enjoyment of the game? I'm not looking for a sneaky workaround, just some way that people like my friend who don't enjoy high-ranked gameplay can play in a more casual setting. As things currently stand, I'm pretty sure that it's not possible (although I'm happy to be corrected).
So what I'm proposing is that there be some solution introduced. Possibly, it's something that's already being worked on, in which case that's fantastic. I personally think that there should be a) new balance changes which make it harder for survivors who are just playing casually to rank up, or b) some way to control one's rank manually, or c) even better, a non-ranked gameplay mode (as you would find in games like, say, LoL) where players can just play casually without the pressure of rank to cause saltiness. Because honestly, the only reason that high-ranked gameplay is so unpleasant is because everyone takes the game and their rank very seriously and so tend to be really salty about losing.
tl;dr: I understand why people get banned for intentionally disconnecting, but I think there should be a way for people to play casually, in an environment like that which you encounter at low ranks, so that they're not forced to dc in order to derank just so that they can play the game in an enjoyable, low-pressure atmosphere.
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See you my friend have a legit argument here I don’t blame you at all for being upset , but would you be mad if you killed a rank 20 and found out he had perks afterwards? I think these people fail to realize you can stack points on a character before playing the game mode , I know all kinds of people who played killer before survivor just to be an iconic characterredsopine1 said:shasta said:
This right here is what people should be upset about not what OP is posting, if I were a rank 15 survivor trying to go to twenty it would take 5 months to do with the new system....Boss said:I sometimes get rank 1s & 2s in my low/mid rank lobbies.
It's due to SWF. (Apparently.)
As if i didn't despise that mode enough...
ikr heck I'm still trying to get to green ranks with my p1jake (have bad games like minor lag probably my bad for broadcasting my games) or my most common issue is having 3man swf teams loading in and getting me tunnled by blowing my gens unsafe hooks making noise using bond to find me as there running all that bs) -
I think if you stick around a open exit gate and other survivors are there with you within 16 meters of the gate while one has escaped already they should grant an exposed status effect on the remaining survivors who refuse to leave even though the gate is openGlobal said:So, you know how if the killer goes to far in the exit gates the entity blocks the exit right?
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Right? I mean why die on purpose at that rank with only 3k points? It makes zero sense and he even got everyone and is still complainingbrokedownpalace said:I don't understand. Maybe that guy is a killer main and poured all his saved up points into that survivor? (Edit: you just saying he couldn't have done this doesn't make it a fact)
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No I play both equally, Myers is my avatar because that’s my all time favorite killer from movies anyway, I like to use Myers,clown,spirit, or nurse at rank one play and I have all of those p3 and everyone else except LF , wraith, and huntressTsulan said:
But you are a killer main, yes?shasta said:
I don’t mind , if I didn’t want to p3 them I wouldn’t do it but I’m doing it with all my survivors just to have them maxed out on prestige and different perk builds for different characters, it becomes more of “what style do I want to play today?” Rather than using the same approach over and overTsulan said:
What if you don't like the character apart from looks?shasta said:
Yep because I would rather get all the perks I want before I jump into a match perkless or without perks I preferTsulan said:
So you spend 10+ million bloodpoints on a character you never played?shasta said:
It would take five months to derank to twenty from fifteen and I p3 my Adam before I even loaded him in a game the first time so yea it does happenTsulan said:
How do you know he didn't die deliberately?shasta said:
Again how do you know he didn’t just spend bloodpoints on a survivor and is a killer main? He dies first so he’s obviously not the best one of the groupJudgement said:@shasta said:
So they used bloodpoints to level up before playing? You got a 4K what are you complaining about ? I really don’t understand the problem, @not_Queen @Patricia @Peanits this is why they will never be happy no matter what anyone does for them, we have someone who killed everyone and still has a problem even though they were the highest ranked player all because the survivor at rank 20 didn’t have zero perks and stand still the whole match
Good god my dude, who hurt you?
It's the fact that this player is sitting at Rank 20 Survivor with metas on their characters as to bash noobs with meta stuff.
This isn't the first case of 'Rank 15-20 Noob Stomper with metas' I've seen either. If anything, while BHVR have made it more difficult to stay at the low ranks to bully noobs, they have not made it impossible.
Which is what it should be - impossible. The fact that I got four kills that match has no bearing on the fact that this player can be trolling and being toxic to players who actually are new to the game
For what reason? Funny moments montages? Genuinely being an ass?
Either way, what this player's doing can put off newer players from actually playing the game. That's my problem - I want more people playing Dead By Daylight, we all do. But it's players like this who don't let us have such nice things.
And yeah, I also like to prestige a character I never play, 3 times. Because #########'s n giggles.
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You play against noobs anyway remember and they’ve gave killers so much more than they’ve ever had the past year there is literally nothing left to ######### about except swf being ranked , that’s it . If you’re still bitching then you need to git gud or go on to another game because it obviously not for you if you have to derank to bully noobs and refuse to adjust your perks or play style to compete at high ranks when the situation calls for itDeadByFlashlight said:@shasta said:
DeadByFlashlight said:@SovererignKing said:
Peanits said:
@NextKillerSpongebob said: What do you think killers think of pallet looping, DS and Sprint Burst? You see, this kind of logic leads nowhere. It's all a vicious circle. You get mad about looping, so you tunnel, so they don't want to die, so they loop/DS, and so you tunnel, and so they loop, etc. It never ends. I ain't saying I like either, but if you fight fire with fire, the fire just gets bigger.
Better logic : I’m getting sick and tired of Survivors tunneling Gens. It’s so annoying they run to a Gen I just kicked, that 1/2 done and tunnel it till it’s done instead of going to a Gen that’s got 0% progress.
You never get an answer from a survivor when you bring this argument
It’s because you obviously want a free handout, looping is intended or you wouldn’t be able to just like tunneling and camping , they’ve given killers so much the past six months even gutting windows and pallets , but what’s the results? The same ######### players refuse to adjust to certain scenarios and still #########... what a surprise
Uhm what?
I can still run a loopable killer for several gens and I am a mediocre survivor at best.Ask yourself who is asking for a free handout here
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Yea but you don’t play at high ranks and any good killer won’t allow that to go on for long, there are plenty of ways to counter it and the devs have taken so many pallets out and windows that it’s obvious you want no pallets or windows and everyone to have to run in straight lines and 360 the whole game, it’s an intended mechanic or you wouldn’t be able to do it , it would be like the hallway pallet in Lery’s where it just blocks the way with no loopDeadByFlashlight said:@shasta said:
DeadByFlashlight said:@SovererignKing said:
Peanits said:
@NextKillerSpongebob said: What do you think killers think of pallet looping, DS and Sprint Burst? You see, this kind of logic leads nowhere. It's all a vicious circle. You get mad about looping, so you tunnel, so they don't want to die, so they loop/DS, and so you tunnel, and so they loop, etc. It never ends. I ain't saying I like either, but if you fight fire with fire, the fire just gets bigger.
Better logic : I’m getting sick and tired of Survivors tunneling Gens. It’s so annoying they run to a Gen I just kicked, that 1/2 done and tunnel it till it’s done instead of going to a Gen that’s got 0% progress.
You never get an answer from a survivor when you bring this argument
It’s because you obviously want a free handout, looping is intended or you wouldn’t be able to just like tunneling and camping , they’ve given killers so much the past six months even gutting windows and pallets , but what’s the results? The same ######### players refuse to adjust to certain scenarios and still #########... what a surprise
Uhm what?
I can still run a loopable killer for several gens and I am a mediocre survivor at best.Ask yourself who is asking for a free handout here
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I actually agree with you on this one , how does anyone know what this person did? They don’t it’s all assumptions and the poor guy died first anyway, it would take 5 months to go all the way to twenty from fifteen and people saying he did it on purpose is dumb because he’s already at twenty why die first? What’s their to gain? Where’s the fun in that when you’re already at the bottom gaining only 3 thousand points a match it makes zero senseDeadByFlashlight said:@Judgement said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
When there are no other players at your rank, matchmaking will take a larger group of ranks into account.I heard several times that queue time is insane for beginners, the whole rank 20-15 idea was completely nonsense if you ask me
If you took a look at the Rank 20's perk, that's definitely not a beginner.
This is someone who deranked down to Rank 15 then went through a few Rank Resets without playing Survivor the whole time just to play games as a Survivor at Rank 20 with metas.
This shouldn't be a thing, and yet it is.I believe its totally ok for someone that took a half a year break from DBD to start at rank 20 again
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I don’t mind , if I didn’t want to p3 them I wouldn’t do it but I’m doing it with all my survivors just to have them maxed out on prestige and different perk builds for different characters, it becomes more of “what style do I want to play today?” Rather than using the same approach over and overTsulan said:
What if you don't like the character apart from looks?shasta said:
Yep because I would rather get all the perks I want before I jump into a match perkless or without perks I preferTsulan said:
So you spend 10+ million bloodpoints on a character you never played?shasta said:
It would take five months to derank to twenty from fifteen and I p3 my Adam before I even loaded him in a game the first time so yea it does happenTsulan said:
How do you know he didn't die deliberately?shasta said:
Again how do you know he didn’t just spend bloodpoints on a survivor and is a killer main? He dies first so he’s obviously not the best one of the groupJudgement said:@shasta said:
So they used bloodpoints to level up before playing? You got a 4K what are you complaining about ? I really don’t understand the problem, @not_Queen @Patricia @Peanits this is why they will never be happy no matter what anyone does for them, we have someone who killed everyone and still has a problem even though they were the highest ranked player all because the survivor at rank 20 didn’t have zero perks and stand still the whole match
Good god my dude, who hurt you?
It's the fact that this player is sitting at Rank 20 Survivor with metas on their characters as to bash noobs with meta stuff.
This isn't the first case of 'Rank 15-20 Noob Stomper with metas' I've seen either. If anything, while BHVR have made it more difficult to stay at the low ranks to bully noobs, they have not made it impossible.
Which is what it should be - impossible. The fact that I got four kills that match has no bearing on the fact that this player can be trolling and being toxic to players who actually are new to the game
For what reason? Funny moments montages? Genuinely being an ass?
Either way, what this player's doing can put off newer players from actually playing the game. That's my problem - I want more people playing Dead By Daylight, we all do. But it's players like this who don't let us have such nice things.
And yeah, I also like to prestige a character I never play, 3 times. Because #########'s n giggles.
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That must be pc specific, I play on pc and Xbox but I’ve never saw anyone use a program to do that, then again I’m a solo player I don’t like swf because everyone becomes a dumbass when someone gets hookedmakayla said:@shasta said:
makayla said:They probably did rank reset manually.
There is a program you can use to put your rank to whatever you want, including 20, whenever you want to. I won't say how here because I don't want people to see it and abuse it themselves, but it exists and it works. It's likely that's what she did.
Modifying game files will earn you a ban though and is caught in situations like that most of the time
With the program, you don't directly modify your game files, though. I would just say what the program does but I don't want to risk getting forum banned. I know a handful of people that do this and none of them are banned (they also do other questionable things, that's besides the point). It has a weirdly low ban risk, I've never heard of someone getting banned from it.
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Modifying game files will earn you a ban though and is caught in situations like that most of the timemakayla said:They probably did rank reset manually.
There is a program you can use to put your rank to whatever you want, including 20, whenever you want to. I won't say how here because I don't want people to see it and abuse it themselves, but it exists and it works. It's likely that's what she did.
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Yep because I would rather get all the perks I want before I jump into a match perkless or without perks I preferTsulan said:
So you spend 10+ million bloodpoints on a character you never played?shasta said:
It would take five months to derank to twenty from fifteen and I p3 my Adam before I even loaded him in a game the first time so yea it does happenTsulan said:
How do you know he didn't die deliberately?shasta said:
Again how do you know he didn’t just spend bloodpoints on a survivor and is a killer main? He dies first so he’s obviously not the best one of the groupJudgement said:@shasta said:
So they used bloodpoints to level up before playing? You got a 4K what are you complaining about ? I really don’t understand the problem, @not_Queen @Patricia @Peanits this is why they will never be happy no matter what anyone does for them, we have someone who killed everyone and still has a problem even though they were the highest ranked player all because the survivor at rank 20 didn’t have zero perks and stand still the whole match
Good god my dude, who hurt you?
It's the fact that this player is sitting at Rank 20 Survivor with metas on their characters as to bash noobs with meta stuff.
This isn't the first case of 'Rank 15-20 Noob Stomper with metas' I've seen either. If anything, while BHVR have made it more difficult to stay at the low ranks to bully noobs, they have not made it impossible.
Which is what it should be - impossible. The fact that I got four kills that match has no bearing on the fact that this player can be trolling and being toxic to players who actually are new to the game
For what reason? Funny moments montages? Genuinely being an ass?
Either way, what this player's doing can put off newer players from actually playing the game. That's my problem - I want more people playing Dead By Daylight, we all do. But it's players like this who don't let us have such nice things.
And yeah, I also like to prestige a character I never play, 3 times. Because #########'s n giggles.
Bold move...
