Onionthing
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No one "deserves" to be treated poorly. Dont start getting into that mindset. No more than treating a killer like garbage is "deserved" on their end. Toxicity is a biproduct of this game, not a reflection of how you should behave. Instead its a grimy mirror of how people often behave regardless of "rules" and "civility" ... Ignore the words and keep playing how you want to play. Unless you, like many others, killer or survivor, are just looking for a echoing hall by which you feel like you are not alone. This place is great for that, it is a community after all. Welcome to DBD.
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@Yamaoka said:
Always thought XYZ-MAIN meant you're exclusively playing that one character or at least like 95% of the time. 🤔
Some killers cant just eat cheezburgers all day and forever, some killers need a steak, or maybe some chicken. So they rotate so the gameplay doesn't get stale.
Besides, if you were to only play one character you wouldn't get all the perks (well you could but that would be mind numbing,) and you wouldn't complete you daily sacrifices.
So most killers have an Main and an Alt. Many killers have a core 3 they put into rotation. Thats why you see killers list thier top (main) and then the killers they alt when they need a break.
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@SunderMun said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/602942#Comment_602942
Lately I'm queuing into SWF every other game running object, DS, tbagging, all handing info to each other, etc and I've never descended to that. Stop justifying it.
(and when I say every other game I mean literally every second game)
I was justifying it? Understanding and empathizing is different than justifying. But I suppose people will tell themselves anything to justify their own behavior. That's why toxicity will never leave this game, because neither party wants to admit their short-comings. Who cares what a killer thinks anyway? You are there to win, you do what you need to ... to win.
Just like Im going to do everything in my power to wipe your little SWF.
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Its simple: blondes or blonde cosmetics.
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With the hook progression idea non hooked survivors could hang out by the hook, loop by the hook, keep their buddy alive indefinitely (in theory) and then you would need even less survivors to do gens. Meta would be 1 bait, 1 looper and 2 gen rushers ... GG EZ
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There is a penalty for camping, its called less BP, Its called possible de-pip. Sometimes killers camp and they dont care about any of that, they care about sending a message. There are also perks that help punish campers, but it usually means on survivor has to run it and take one for the team.
My point is they already have penalties, you just don't see them from a survivor perspective.
I dont camp because I dont need to or care to.
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@Raven014 said:
This is just survivor entitlement. They believe they have the right to survive, when it is clear that it's supposed to be a challenge. You have to earn the privilege to survive the match, not the other way around.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/602177#Comment_602177
This is an example of this phenomena of entitlement. The Devs shouldn't encourage that in any way.
Just makes the game more toxic. : P
*laughs in plauge*🤮
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Boil em', mash em', put'em inn'a stew.
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My expectations and standards are very low in this game. lol.
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@Laakeri said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/602942#Comment_602942
Damm you sound just like the killer I had. Its always survivors fault no matter what.
Me playing with my buddy, not using insta meds or anything that hinders killer enjoyment is considered toxic.
You do you FAM, don't even worry about what I said, cause I am never going to worry about what you say (in game.) Remember Killers are just toxic garbage anyway right?
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Spirit - Shes the only one I have bothered to P3 atm .. I like her gameplay and her aesthetic. She appeals to the weeb in me. I like the fact that only dumb survivors will stand around to teabag me, and if they do they get downed.
Hag - She does wonders to slow the game down on her own. Her small size is deceptively powerful in loops. I can play many perk set up with her. Like Spirit she commands respect, otherwise you will pay for getting too cocky.
Plague - I just bought her. The disrespect from survivors is real atm. I like her more than clown and doctor (which I see her as a combination of the two.) but I have a long way to go with her. I also really like her aesthetic she, reminds me of a Guillermo del Toro monster.
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Most survivors think I care.
I don't.
I don't pay attention to gamer tags. I don't memorize skins, I play adaptively and naturally.
If you are in front of me you get whacked.
If you didn't hide properly, you get whacked.
If you did a unsafe hook, you get whacked, and your friend gets whacked.
If i see scratch marks around a hook, I look for them.
If you 3 gen'd yourself, that's your fault not mine. I wasn't counting gens.
If I hear a hatch, I'm closing it.
None of this is emotionally driven. Quite the opposite. I've gotten quite Zen as a killer, its almost meditative for me, sometimes I'm just on autopilot ... Its nice.
Sometimes I 4k, sometimes I get nothing.
I don't read chat, I just move on.
Survivors can salt all they want, I probably didn't notice...
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Its niether popular enough,
nor is it doing so badly money wise to warrant going F2P.
Its right in the middle to warrant a rather cheap buying price. Its not even a full price game ($60) ... I think its good.
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HAR! HAR! HAR! SURVIVORS DIDN' DO NUFFIN', GG EZ KILLER LULZ.
Sure the killer shouldn't have acted that way, I would have accepted my loss with a bit more dignity. However looking at your perks, seeing that the killer was running the full gambit of perks and addons and knowing how SWF typically acts/works, I do not for one second believe you guys were innocent, and played like perfect little angels. I can see why he turned into a pillar of salt.
And then you post it like its some sort of exhibition trophy.
This is why you get Killers who throw courtesy and fair play out the window. This is how you create a toxic killer who will stop a nothing to make future survivors suffer. Bravo, you unleashed another one into the world. Stand proud.
Personally I give no care either way, I am well past this point. I'm past emotion when it comes to a match now, survivors may as well be bots these to days. I only concern myself with the score. The bloodpoints are all that matters to me now.
Pretty amusing over all.
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Dont worry after they are done nerfing nurse, I am sure they will nerf Spirit for you guys :)
Anyway ...
1) Meyers gives me problems, I don't know why, on paper he shouldn't be so hard, but my brain falls out my ears every time I play against him.
2) Wraith gives me a headache as well. For the same reason. Something about him makes me play reaaaaallly badly.
Im a killer main and play almost all the killers but my main 3 are Spirit, Hag and Plague. So I am aware of their counters and play fairly well against them (I have a SWF group I play with when a DO play survior, and yes I pull my weight.) Its just Wraith and Meyers turn me into a drooling idiot every time.
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what the hell? honestly it IS really hard to understand you .. but you know what? .. nvm .. im done ...
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@Mushwin said:
ARight you aren't getting it @Onionthing and i play both sides, more killer now so i will sy thisi can uderstand why people take a break, it is no un or surs when been cmped and tunelled and don't get a chance to ######### shave or haicut.....but when it has been repeated in a constant loop for so many years you feel like how i am, and i have deended this game to no end, this is HOIW i am feeling currently and i can see why people feel and or have felt HOW they hae
I get there are a lot of hurt feelings.
I am not making light of your feelings.
And you seem very upset. Traumatized even.
I am poking fun at people who like to treat the game as "Us versus Them" when it takes two parties to have a match. That's all.
If what has happened to you in game has gotten you this worked up, you really should step away from the game. NO VIDEO GAME should be the cause of this much stress. Take it from an adult, there are better things to do with your time (perhaps another game.) Dont work yourself into a unneeded ulcer.
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I think we killers should give survivors what they want and not play the game for 24 hours.
They should be able to win all of their games then.
:)
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@Gardenia said:
Plague is B tier, so is GhostFace. #PlagueMain
I agree Plague is B
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Thanks guys ... Thanks to your tips she is becoming more enjoyable. I'm getting consistent 3ks now The thing I noticed is ... I'm used to playing 3 gen with some of the mid tier killers; with plague I can play 5 gen and feel a lot less scummy. She is kinda tactical like Doc, but I dont have to keep switching forms. So far, happy purchase.
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When 2 or more survivors DC on first downs.
When the killer DCs after 3 Gens and no kills.
Butt-dancing/camping/tunneling/teabagging/namecalling/looping/swf ... none of it bothers me. What bothers me are people who just give up and quit.
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Add-ons are getting changed and her power is "Getting a slight tweak." The freakout is because they rarely "just tweak" anything and that has spelled nerf/nukes to killers in the past. So "Toning her down," "tweaking," and "making her not so broken" pretty much is the sign of the apocalypse for the Nurse who will no longer be apex by the time they are done with her.
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New freddy is here to stay.
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@GrootDude said:
They’re changing her add ons and slightly nerfing her base. This doesn’t call for a full swf rework/nerf.
Like they "slightly" nerfed legion? and will probably nerf thier addons further?
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This "freak out" is because of what they did to Legion; they set a new standard for expectations after that. I'm willing to wait but mark my words, if she is given the Legion treatment it will have some major ramifications among the community. Nurse has been the Apex and the yardstick by which all other killers are measured, period. If this goes south Spirit WILL be next, THEN Billy, then its game over (for killers).
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Honestly do you blame killers for freaking out when "tweaks" are mentioned? After all tweaking has a tendency of turning into a Nerf-Nailed-Bat. (Most) Survivors would love for her and any of the big 4 to get the Legion treatment for sure.
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No arguments here, new players typically pick what they think looks cool; while veterans like to theory craft and build strategies ... More data means better planning.
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Now when she blinks, she is blinded, and has instant pallets fall on her head. If she tries to blink again she is sent back to her original spawn point, and slowed by another 10% until the next generator is done. If she tries to blink before that time then her aura is shown at all times and now she cannot phase through objects. The goal is to make it so she is the slowest killer and you never want to use her power.
GG EZ nurse is now the new Freddy.
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4 tokens, one for each survivor ... then what?
One survivor gets sacrificed and your are down one token?
To reduce what?
Need more details to understand my friend.
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Listen to that bloodlust, ya'll acting like a buncha tunnelers ... lol
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Oh look another nerf BBQ/NOED post. :)
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"Im nice, so you should be nice, that's how we make the game nice, and that would be pretty nice."
Then convince the 100++ Twitch/Youtube players who label every thing as "its fun to be toxic" to change their advertisement of the game. Kids imitate what they see on streaming/tv channels. You are asking a bunch of kids to be adults, and as a adult myself, I find this both unrealistic and kind of humorous at the same time.
This problem wont go away because this culture has been cultivated by the devs and hardcore [streaming] players of the game. You can try to fight it, but it is a very uphill battle. Jerks exist and for some people who have to be nice IRL all day come to this game to relieve the stress of playing "by the rules" all the time. That is how they vent, and games are a great therapy tool to get stress worked out in a way that is definitely not appropriate IRL. (That is an entirely different subject however.)
There are plenty of people who still find the game enjoyable, and others who do not. The problem is all of the feedback the devs get currently perpetuate what you yourself do not find enjoyable. It wont be changed with a post, this is a community wide problem to get them to change what is currently the behavior you don't like.
TL;DR
You can put as many nerfs/bans/ and re-balances in the way that you want. The fact of the matter is, the game will die before you remove the toxicity. Its practically part of the game/culture at this point.
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YES GO FOR IT I THINK YOUR IDEA WILL MAKE KILLER MAINS LIVES EASIER.
(I am a killer main)
I will remind every survivor every time this is brought up:
a) If you want to lose freedom, by all means go this route, freedom to choose what you want isn't some peoples cup of tea.
b) When you do this you create a new power balance, one of tier lists, party structures and "optimal" gameplay beyond the current "what perks are best" gameplay. Again if you are ready for what comes along with this (more DCs, toxic "don't pick that character" behavior, etc) then more power to you.
c) When the meta gets established killer mains like myself will enjoy more "normalized" gameplay (not that we don't already) Where the parties will be the exact four characters with the exact 3 perks (since one is chosen for you.) Im down for that.
Now with this you guys will have more benefit out of the shrine, your individuality to represent that one character you hold so dear, and forum wars to please buff/nerf this survivor (kinda like Killers, only now, you know, survivors.)
TL;DR If you want more build character specific and restrained game-play this is a good idea. However it will be at the sacrifice of making builds with the freedom to choose the cosmetics you want.
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Relax, he needs a few weeks before you guys start trying to nerf him back to F tier
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Here we go again.
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If nurse doesn't get reworked after Freddy, just say "MOOP!"
There we go, happy to help! :)
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a charge up AND a cool down?!
No.
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Clowns projectile is a grenade, the radius is spherical however. For example, you can throw a tonic at the ceiling of a house with two floors and still nail someone on the top floor. You can throw tonics over walls The throw distance is pretty good too. The tonic without addons is kind of lackluster but it still does the job.
Legion plays best my screwing around. Slash as much as you can, run around like a spastic kid with too much candy and just be a general little turd. Legion is on of few killers who can pip (easily) without any kills. To make sure you don't miss a hit make sure you are practically breathing onto the survivors back. Break off chases now again, frenzy and run back to the survivor, it can really freak them out.
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I keep typing and deleting my response.
Im just going to say:
Don't count on it. Sure you can wish, sure you can dream, but dont count on it.
This is more of a thing to expand their player base, not grandfather veterans onto another system.
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Oooooooh! Wait! Load-outs! Ha!
Sorry I gave you so much sass, no, I actually think quick load-outs are a cool idea. I have several builds that I would have liked to just have a quick slot option. THAT ladies and gentlemen is a cool Idea for both sides.
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As much as Susie (Legion) is my No2 and I would love for her to get fixed. Bubba really needs to be brought up from the bottom. They just love him for his perks, not for his body. 😞
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When I was a youngin' I went into the subway tunnels and messed around with a bunch friends. One of them put a rock on the rails. There was a loud boom when the train rolled by, then it came to a screeching halt. We ran for it. The people on the train were fine, but the cops were waiting for us when we came out. My mom tanned my hide that day. But that wasn't what got me, I was genuinely fearful someone on that train got hurt. I never did that again, and I ditched those friends shortly afterwards.
I may be a killer main, but Im a big softie IRL.
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Im a killer, I get 3Ks consistently because someone found the hatch before me.
However they earned it, no salt. Im not going to GIVE you the hatch tho.
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Find the hatch, remember where the hatch is, use that to your advantage. I'm all for survivors getting their "just desserts" but that's kinda mean. We can already kick it closed, I think that's good enough. If we are gonna go that far, we should just have a perk that identifies the hatch when it pops. (Which is also a bad idea)
Thats just me though. Maybe other people will like the idea.
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@My_Farewell said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/588508#Comment_588508
Many games have that already, with their BiS (best in slot) stuff, and are doing just fine.
Anything underperforming could just be buffed, problem solved.
Then one day I hope you get exactly what you asked for :)
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Im just a killer,
I have no problem with you guys pigeon-holing each other into roles.
Just dont mess with the match load times while you guys are busy kicking each other out of parties and screaming at each other for not picking the right roles and arguing over what the best meta match ups are. Oh an Ill be ready for nerf survivor threads. This will be a hoot! Im ready for this!
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Sure,
Just be prepared for tier lists, optimal play guides and people ready to drop party because you wont run the strongest survivors.
But Im just a killer main so I dont know anything about that...
*sips tea*
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My problems went in this order
1) Lack of knowledge about power nuances
2) Lack of map knowledge
3) Lack of knowledge about survivor perks
4) Hit boxes
After all of that it was all Survivor Salt.
Then I upped my Privacy settings and everything was fine after that.
I dont care about 4Ks. Gen rushers only bother me because I dont see it as fun, but whatever they want to leave with only 10k in their pocket, whatever. I play mosty mind game killers, so survivors dont butt dance or tea bag for long (every time someone ends up on the hook, its hilarious.)
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LMAO omg that got me.
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@Ihitscenekids23 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/587159#Comment_587159
How it is a problem to have the shrine you just save up theyll always have them non stop even the ones that rarely show up thats how i been getting them from the shrine even if you do one perk a week from the shrine that is not hard to do especially if your double pipping on one game cause that goes by levels not rank to get them. Who would even pay for bps when you already have to buy cosmetics which about 10$ an outfit no way buying bps is P2W
The Shrine is RNG,
it is a Gamble Mechanic,
paying for another spin on the wheel is just a GATCHA (Japanese rng collectible games) tactic. I play Gatcha games (FGO, Destiny Child), I dont want DBD to have any kind of element like that.
I want to SEE what I want, BUY what I want, and NOT have to PLAY ROULETTE for what I want.
Paying for Killers means I get a killer and THREE GAURANTEED PERKS.
Paying for a Survivor means I get a Survivor and THREE GAURANTEED PERKS.
Paying for Cosmetics means I BUY WHAT I SEE AND I LIKE IT.
No extra spinning, no dopamine manipulation BS, no mobile game garbage.
I hope that clarifies my stance on this.
Buying BP to bypass the grind, kills one of the core elements of this game. I hope Im clear on that point as well.