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  • @burt0r said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/366886/this-game-has-a-serious-problem

    Strange, i thought you already uninstalled the game 2 week ago?

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/365789/today-is-the-day-i-ve-uninstalled

    I guess you couldn't stay away for long. Despite the game being sooo baaaad right now.

    lol. Thought you had a gotcha moment. I came back because of the new chapter…

  • @MrPeanutbutter said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/366886/this-game-has-a-serious-problem

    ok I’ll take the bait

    Show us how to play killer and consistently win against coordinated SWF teams without tunneling, Mr Pro Killer

    I just played a game as plague and got a 4k without tunneling and camping. they were a swf so yeah y’all are just bad

  • @LuthirFontaine said:

    Going to sound trolly and snarky but I do hope they nerf dh I want to see the next why I didn't 4k perk

    THIS. there is always going to be something to blame on why they’re not winning.

  • @Milo said:

    ^

    But let me explain why somewhat from my point of view:

    1. Because the only condition to get the effect is to start a chase, the survivor can just run around for some time, while the killer is chasing the other survivor and completely and utterly destroy that chase. And with all those buffs, getting to a safe spot to do a gen till broken is out would be no issue.
    2. This is kind of like Grim Embrace (but better of course). However it also has the same issue as Grim Embrace: Getting everyone hooked and stealth. Also this basically promotes camping atleast the health state of the last survivor, since you know other survivors cannot do anything else productive.

    Okay what would you change though to make the design better?

  • @ProfessorDunwich said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3353538#Comment_3353538

    Tell me you don’t play Killer without telling me you don’t play Killer.

    Tell me you didn’t read the post without telling me

  • @Aurelle said:

    I've been playing Nemesis recently and it seems like the zombie's AI has improved because they actually patrolled areas where survivors were and were getting more downs than I was. I was actually impressed by them XD

    I think so because today I was blocked in shack by nemesis and his two zombies lol

  • @Reinami said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3353678#Comment_3353678

    Again, you aren't reading what i wrote. I didn't say you should tunnel someone because they deserve it, or because it is toxic, or anything like that. What i am saying is, if someone is running dead hard, and i know they are, and i hook them. The most efficient tactics for me to beat that person, is to tunnel them off the hook, hit them intentionally, so they get deep wounds, then they can't use dead hard in that chase, then keep chasing them.

    This means they get a speed boost, but i only have to hit them 1 more time to down them. If i don't tunnel them off the hook, then they get healed, and then the NEXT time i chase them, i have to hit them once, then hit them again and 50/50 that i can bait the dead hard, or they don't reach a pallet with it, giving them a 3rd health state. Then hit them a 3rd time to down them, before i repeat.

    If i see them use dead hard, it makes way more sense to tunnel them right off the hook so they can't get any more use out of dead hard.

    I'm saying, that if you are playing to win, and they have dead hard, tunneling hard counters that. Good killers realize this, so if you don't want to get hard tunneled and die. Run something like off the record, and sprint burst, that way, i can't hit you right off the hook, you sprint burst away, and you have OTR so you get that extra health state without having to use dead hard or time anything. Additionally, if you sprint burst away, i'm probably going to ignore you and go after the person who unhooked you, because i can probably very quickly land a hit on them, and then start a quick chase with them, rather than tunneling you when you just zoomed away from me and are probably on the other side of the map by now.

    Tunneling and camping only work because survivors let it work.

    Once again someone shouldn’t have to change their whole build just to not get tunneled. Stop using deadhard as an excuse to tunnel.

  • @Reinami said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3353494#Comment_3353494

    You misread my post. I didn't say running dead hard means you "deserve to get tunneled" i'm saying, the best counter to dead hard, is actually to tunnel. If you proxy a bit, wait for the unhook, and then immediately hit the person right after they get unhooked, they get deep wounds, yeah they get a speed boost, but now you only need to deal with a 1 health state chase, instead of waiting for them to heal and getting a 3 health state chase.

    People always say the same thing when i talk about why survivors get camped too. i'm not saying you deserve it, i'm saying its the best play.

    This post had nothing to do with deadhard somehow it’s brought i’m talking about the toxicity I just faced that drove me to uninstall not tunneling or camping so seriously your comment is irrelevant.

  • @Reinami said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3353492#Comment_3353492

    "First person hooked literally killed themselves the moment they were hooked"

    That right there. The person denied them bloodpoints and a decent game by doing that. Probably thought you were queued together and took it out on the rest of you. Not saying it is right, but there was definitely a reason.

    And i'm not saying "avoid perks to avoid toxicity" tunneling and camping is not toxic, they are strategies. The point i'm making is, if you are running things that are countered by tunneling and camping, then you get tunneled and camped, you should "surprisedpikachuface.jpg" and should realize why that happened.

    It’s very funny how you’re completely ignoring everything I said. He didn’t take it out on the rest of us. He took it out on me specifically My whole reasoning for me killing myself was because he was being toxic before I was even hooked or tried killing myself he just wanted to be an ass to me for no reason. I’m not staying in a game where i’m being bullied.

  • @Piruluk said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3353498#Comment_3353498

    You should play killer instead, if you are playing Solo, then killer is the only choice you have in this game.

    We shouldn’t have to play killer to avoid toxicity.

  • @OrangeBear said:

    Stop taking camping and tunnelling personally. They are simply efficient strategies. Killer players are not there to entertain you, they are there to play the game just like you are. So unless they are breaking the rules then it's a game issue and not a player issue.

    So being extremely toxic to me for no reason is an effective strategy? and I should just deal with it? Like you said Killers aren’t there for my entertainment and i’m not there for theirs so i’m gonna go into a game and do exactly what he did to me to other killers because “There are no rules”…

  • @HoodedWildKard said:

    Haaaa. I've done this as demo before, not recently so I doubt it was me against OP.

    But as killer if a surv is obviously trying to get me to kill them early game. Then I tend to slug or ignore them.

    I have a strong belief that survs shouldn't ever nope out of a game early on, say 5 mins or less. It's unfair on their team, so for survs who refuse to DC but won't try and help their team? Hell yeah I'll make sure they stay in it for longer. Serves them right for ragequitting unnecessarily.

    Note: I'm fine with people doing it late game when the match has clearly swung in killers favour. But early match It's extremely bad manners imo

    Someone literally killed themselves on first hook… The game was over before even it started… I’m not playing a game where the killer is very clearly bullying me specifically… I don’t care about bad manners I wanted to die and go next but nooo he went out of his way to bully me like why would I wanna play that.

  • @Reinami said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/365789/today-is-the-day-i-ve-uninstalled

    "He was really toxic from the start of the match so killed myself"

    Then he didn't tunnel or camp you, because you were on first hook. Then you tried to give up, and the killer wouldn't let you. I do this too if a survivor tries to give up. Its BS, it denies me bloodpoints, it denies their team a chance at winning, and i honestly think it should be bannable.

    Better question you should ask yourself. What did you do to get tunneled and camped? Do you run dead hard? Because the best counter to deadhard is to tunnel someone off the hook, hit them, so they get deep wounds, and now instead of dealing with 3 health states, you only have to deal with 1.

    Try running perks that discourage the killer from tunneling you, not encouraging it. Run off the record, have your friend run borrowed time, run decisive strike.

    First off, I wasn’t the first person to be hooked… The first person hooked literally killed themselves the moment they were hooked. As soon as he downed me he started being toxic for no reason… The game was already over like why should I stay In a game where a killer is literally bullying me… The games was over before began which is why I said I wanted to move on and go next. Why is it on me to make sure you get your bloodpoints… No I’m not playing a game where I’m being bullied.. How is him slugging me and shaking his head at me getting him bloodpoints. How is him standing over hatch waiting for me and shaking his head giving him blood points. Then slugging me after he closed it be so serious. I didn’t do anything to deserve that. I shouldn’t have to change the perks i’m running to avoid toxicity.

  • @LordSturm said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3341918#Comment_3341918

    "Simply wait it out" - lmao

    That didn't work as a counterargument for Eruption, so it doesn't work for Dead Hard either.

    Its not the same thing since you can’t really counter eruption if you’re not on comms. Theres no way to know/ anticipate if a killer has or not so this argument doesn’t really work.

  • @LordSturm said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3336321#Comment_3336321

    ... Yeah. That's exactly my point. You did it again.

    You only read part of what you reply to and ignore the rest. Lol

    what did I ignore? I reply almost every comment just bc I don’t agree doesn’t mean i’m ignoring comments.

  • @FengShuiExe said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3336339#Comment_3336339

    I don't even know if this was meant for me. And if it was I don't even know what your trying to say.

    Yeah I didn’t mean to quote you sorry.

  • @KingDeathly said:

    There isn't enough time to wait out dead hard, thats how fast gens go. Stop saying dead hard doesn't need a nerf. Can't even play killers like huntress cause her hatchets are so easy to dead hard, you need 3 hits to down a survivor. I don't care what you all say there just isn't time to wait out dead hard I need to go kick my gen cause thats apparently so damn important, more important than actual chases apparently.

    Complaining about waiting out dead hard is really skill issue. Yes dead hard gives an extra health state and waste time for the killer but is that not point of it?

  • @HoodedWildKard said:

    Yeah I have zero issues with DH. Sure it's annoying as killer sometimes but it's easy enough to counter. And bloody hard to trigger as survivor lol.

    Yes I feel as if the new dead hard takes way more skill than the last one I don’t mind it bc 99% of survivors never trigger it correctly.

  • as someone who plays killer pretty frequently I don’t necessarily tunnel but if I don’t have someone dead by three gens I am gonna kill someone who’s on death hook. I don’t drop whatever just to tunnel someone out because thats not fun and its not fun being on the receiving end.

  • As a feng main I agree.

  • @FengShuiExe said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3336215#Comment_3336215

    I think your missing my point, Exposed can skip a health state, and dead hard can act as a third health state sure... but Expose isn't permanent. The situations that expose can come into play are rarer than a deadhard.

    Deadhard is more constant than most expose perks its not fair to compare deadhard a nearly constant third health state, to a situational one hit. Deadhard is active so long as a survivor is injured, expose is only permanent on 1 killer (myers).

    Theres also so many people disagreeing with me and backing each other up does that make them the same person as well?

  • What? We both agree that dh is okay it makes us the same person or a couple? where is the logic in that?

  • @RainehDaze said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3336249#Comment_3336249

    Wesker too (though he came after, like Knight), same as Demo. He's another case of his power being shut down by DH despite already being highly telegraphed and easily dodged.

    And Endurance effects not only tank the hit, it skips the yeeting.

    Also, anyone else find it weird that there's two people who have all their posts in this one thread and backing each other up?

    so it’s weird that someone agrees with me? What are you implying

  • @FMG15 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3336224#Comment_3336224

    What has this to do with my comment? So I'm not allowed to tell you what annoys me about DH if I don't simultaniously complain about Eruption as well? Yes Eruption is overkill and needs a rework ASAP but that still has not anything to do with my comment. DH should not negate insta-down powers period.

    I didn’t mean to reply you when I said that sorry

  • Saying that dh shouldn’t work against m2 is like saying noed shouldn’t work if you have adrenaline that sounds ridiculous…

  • @Xernoton said:

    I don't appreciate how common DH is. I don't like how strong it is. I hate its counterplay.

    Other than that, I'm fine with it.

    They are common perks on both sides.. Eruption, call of brine, pain resonance, Noed are very common for killers. Its just hypocritical to only complain about one and not the others.

  • @o7o said:

    Dead Hard is only really a problem against people who know how to use it and certain killers like Blight where it can be troublesome but other than that, the perk is so damn ping-reliant. Most of the time people waste it prematurely, even then it's just easy to bait.

    I promise as playing both survivor and killer, and playing killer more recently, I have only gone against a literal cheater using auto-DH once and they still died. Most of my games, everyone either DH's prematurely or I'll just bait it.

    If you have this mindset where you have to 'act' like every survivor has it and let it get to you, you've obviously already lost. While it's smart to predict, you shouldn't let that idea determine the outcome of the match.

    So what you’re saying is dh is not the problem cheaters are…

  • @FengShuiExe said:

    The problem with expose perks are the situations. All those expose perks you listed only really work in certain conditions, where as dead hard is anytime your injured.

    I usually have to devote my perks to Hubris to get it to work. Rancor I rarely get to use because most survivors seem to know to bodyblock here. I only used starstruck on that funny build with mad grit, agitation and iron grasp. Make your choice and noed are probably the easiest of them to use, and noed now gets an aura to cleanse quicker, and make your choice does have a minute cooldown and a range, its not like its being quickly. Survivors do get a chance to hide straight away.

    But deadhard can be used anytime a survivor is injured, and it can block anything that would cause injury. I don't really care half the time because I run STBFL so its free stacks. But to compare deadhard to expose is very different.

    Dh is comparable exposed perks because dh gives extra health and the exposed perks takes one away. Its the same thing if you’re gonna complain about one complain about them all.

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