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@ThePloopz said:
Caretaker said:@Dwight_Confusion said:
I don't see a problem with him. I think he's alright so far.
The projectile arc is awful, super long reload time, gas lasts for a minimal amount of time but the slow is nice. Super generic killer. Pallet looped, hurt but the same meta perks that every other killer suffers from. Decent perks, fun to play though.
I think the reload time is quite long that I definitely agree with.
From a quick count with baseline glove addon it was 4 seconds. For 4 bottles that's insane amounts of time wasted. Imo, gas should stop actions, and/or have the survivor cough random for x seconds after getting hit. He should not slowdown when throwing. Normal toss, faster reloads. I am still going to play him though and I'm sure my opinion will change, but the games I'm playing are just the usual.
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@Vancold said:
@Caretaker said:
I understand, but again, he suffers from the same thing every killer does. Looping, and gen rushing. He's nothing special.How come? You have a great zoning tool, which can prevent many safe-zones in a serious amount of loops.
"Gen Rushing" depends on Ruin and on pressure.
His perks also prevents window-loops (like the Shack's one) and can slow the game to a certain extent.I'll say it again: play him and play against him. You're better than these arid complaints.
It blocks one window, the arc can ruin your toss which ruins your zoning. That gas doesn't stop them from doing anything they can still drop pallets. His projectile is rather slow. You shouldn't need ruin.
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@Dwight_Confusion said:
I don't see a problem with him. I think he's alright so far.The projectile arc is awful, super long reload time, gas lasts for a minimal amount of time but the slow is nice. Super generic killer. Pallet looped, hurt but the same meta perks that every other killer suffers from. Decent perks, fun to play though.
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@Vancold said:
Just play him and vs him^^Leave early judgements to newbies^^
I understand, but again, he suffers from the same thing every killer does. Looping, and gen rushing. He's nothing special.
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@Slowgaleo said:
Think you should give it a few days of testing him / playing against him before posting stuff like this. People don’t know how to properly use him / counter him yet. It takes time.You throw the gas, it disorients and slows. There's not much else to it man. I understand waiting, but he's not Hag, or Doc, or someone that has extra bits thrown in.
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@only1biggs said:
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As someone who generally slugs a bit, it's not very viable anymore unless you snowball. Survivors are smart and without KO they'll get those slugs back up cuz they'll be near full health. While you chase one they'll heal each other. Slugging is a huge risk, even if they don't run No Mither or Unbreakabill.Survivors are smart?
95% of the player base are brain dead, killers included.
And...snowball away. That's the point. But just getting two or three off gens is viable. If you can't see that then you're probably a bad killer
Not sure if that's aimed at me, but 100% the game. Like to think I know what I'm talking about. When I slug even with KO, survivors know to run you around until they can get a buddy up, or they'll stick on gens.
Not aimed at you really, but based on your response, you don't seem to understand that having them off gens is a good thing. What do you do when a slug is on the floor and someone else comes to help? Just stand there or actually kill them?
Even if you just get one hit on someone else before you pick up the slug, that's two people off gens. The other two can only do so much on the gens and need to help because team mates are important. If you have to chase someone who helps the slug and he/she "runs you around", then you still have two off gens, and probably three...I'm not sure why I'm having to explain this. People healing are not doing gens. It's simple.You get one down. You don't want to lose that slug right? So what next? You go chase other people off gens, or focus on that one slug hoping for someone to come in to heal? You choose to focus on that one slug.
Scenario 1: You down them super fast, and possibly the slug if they were picked up due to recovery. Now you have two slugs, that could arguably cause more trouble cuz they could easily just crawl away and stretch where you can be.
Scenario 2: They loop you and the other slug gets up. Do you stop the chase or go back and try to down the person who is injured? As you decide a gen pops.
Looping isn't infallible. A good team will get back up if you don't play it right. Sure you wasted some time, but if they just heal to full and you got 0 hooks, you just wasted time and gained nothing. I've slugged quite a few games, and Deerstalker is one of my most used perks, but it can be beaten rather easily. Especially if someone happens to have Unbreakabill.
Wow. I guess you're bad then? I mean...in both scenarios of yours you have people OFF gens. You either let them live or can't chase correctly or use bad killers
100% the game, consistently rank 1. It's almost like survivors do adapt despite how much we meme on them for being idiots. Everything you do as a killer is a risk, especially slugging. If you snowball off a slug and down everyone, gg. But if you let even one person stay up you risk losing your slugs. I'm a Huntress/Nurse main too. Stop seeing everything as black or white.
Also, you recognize Spudbar because he's a part of the 3 time champion team of Tydetyme's tournaments and the De-Pip Squad with Marth.
There's your problem right there...100% the game? So, there's NOTHING you can do differently to change and adapt and be better? Really? And I'm the one seeing in black & white? Jeez, shm
And yes, the de-pip squad. They proved a whole lot. That in the most extreme cases which never happens in game unless organised, the killer will lose nine times out of ten. Amazing.
So now I know why you're having a hard time grasping simple ideas...you watch a lot of tyde and marth? Tyde believes BBQ isn't as strong as people think and that DS is skill based and Marth, as solid as he is, has moaned about flashlights when not looking at a wall while picking up.
Yes, killers need help with safe pallets etc, but, the mentality of just blaming the other side or saying that they are stronger instead of first learning more and getting better needs to change. I used to be of the similar mindset to tyde and marth..then I stopped and thought about it and watched Zubat more..a guy I didn't know much of other than he played with Jen..they all got together to talk about the "state of the game", which while laughable, alerted me to one of the best killers in the game, hands down. I watched Zubat, learned more, got better and adjusted. Perhaps others should do the same?
*edit - oh..and rank means nothing or little to nothing my friend. Sorry
You're the second person to bring that up. Get a grip :'DLet's dissect your post here. I don't see a point since you're basically circle jerking yourself, but why not?
"here's your problem right there...100% the game? So, there's NOTHING you can do differently to change and adapt and be better? Really? And I'm the one seeing in black & white? Jeez, shm"
Where did I say that? Seriously, show me where I said I don't have bad games, or can't learn anything? I'm just pointing out I'm not a new killer, and I know what I'm doing. I ran Deerstalker for months, because gasp I actually slugged people. Shocker, I know. It's almost like I'm speaking about the effectiveness of slugging from an experienced viewpoint. Wew, lad.
"And yes, the de-pip squad. They proved a whole lot. That in the most extreme cases which never happens in game unless organised, the killer will lose nine times out of ten. Amazing."
Ah yes. This tired, old, debunked argument cuz god forbid someone point out the flaws of this game. I can't and don't understand why people are against the experiment. I stream from time to time, and a lot of the games are done in about 5 minutes if I don't snowball. There are coordinated non-swf teams. Even when I play survivor I've seen groups bodyblock and share info as if they were on voice comms. It's not hard to do your objective and get out.
It's happened all night. Ruin pops, I keep chasing/hooking, then adren pops, they loop, and dip if I don't kill them. The only way to truly win as a killer against even a remotely intelligent team which is pretty common. Despite your constant talks of how stupid people are who play this game. I could play a lot more "unfair" and tunnel/camp a bit, but I'd rather not play that way unless absolutely forced to do so.
"So now I know why you're having a hard time grasping simple ideas...you watch a lot of tyde and marth? Tyde believes BBQ isn't as strong as people think and that DS is skill based and Marth, as solid as he is, has moaned about flashlights when not looking at a wall while picking up."
It's no wonder to anyone why people can click your profile and see a plethora of downvotes, and even some reported for abuse. Yea, I do watch Tyde and Marth. Keyword, watch. Didn't say I agree with them on everything so your point is moot, and you're reaching so hard I'm surprised your arms haven't snapped off. BBQ isn't the as OP as people cry. It's super easy to deal with. Even if you can't, you can just loop like every survivor does. Same as DS, who said it was skill based?
I agree with Marth. It can be super frustrating that you have 0 counters to lights. Lightborn? They'll just blind sooner. Your options are to look at a wall, or lose your hook. My issue with it is the blinding white headache inducing screen. That needs an option to be turned black.
" Yes, killers need help with safe pallets etc, but, the mentality of just blaming the other side or saying that they are stronger instead of first learning more and getting better needs to change. I used to be of the similar mindset to tyde and marth..then I stopped and thought about it and watched Zubat more..a guy I didn't know much of other than he played with Jen..they all got together to talk about the "state of the game", which while laughable, alerted me to one of the best killers in the game, hands down. I watched Zubat, learned more, got better and adjusted. Perhaps others should do the same?> "
I've played the game on both sides plenty. All survivors run pretty much the exact same perks, play the exact same way. It's almost like survivor isn't hard and is absurdly strong. Zubat is a good killer, this is true. So is Marth, so is Blinky Bill, so is ScottJund. A lot of killers agree maps are survivor sided, that safe/vacuum pallets are way too strong, and jungle gyms need to be adjusted. There are killers that can lose by just getting a bad map.
Early I got Wretched Shop with a double/triple pallet spawn. My Ruin blew instantly, they all had SB, they all looped me hardcore and had pallets to spare. Survivors have issues, but they're pretty rare and more based on player interaction than actual game breaking mechanics/annoyances.
Everyone can learn, adapt, and get better, but killers have a cap. Outside of Nurse, you get looped. That's what you do. You can't mindgame it, you can't just stop them from doing it unless they mess up. There's a reason Freddy got nerfed, and it wasn't cuz killers are in a good spot right now.
Again, rank is to show experience, nothing more, but I find it cute you tell me to get a grip when you derail threads to say you disagree or insult someone.
You literally said "100% the game, consistently rank 1". Did I misunderstand you or are you saying it's 100% the game's fault and that rank matters? I'm happy to be corrected.
I never said I was against the experiment, just implied that it's futile.
If at any point you feel "forced" to camp/tunnel, then that's on you, bud. You win some you lose some. Focusing only on the games where you've been wrecked isn't a great mentality to have. Perhaps you could have learned something more? Perhaps you're not as good as you think? Perhaps you could have done something different in game to change the outcome?
You realize that anyone can vote up or down or flag "abuse" right? I mean, it's obvious to those with a brain that my flag for abuse are false and that I was obviously joking. Someone with intelligence even commented as such and mocked the community in doing so.
And it was Tyde that said DS was skill based and I NEVER said that BBQ was OP. You have misread I'm afraid.Your statement of "you have 0 counters to lights", followed by giving two options is laughable and moronic. Here's another option...fake the pick up and down the guy with the flash light. There's three.
I only used Zubat as the example to watch because as I mentioned, I used to have a similar mindset to you, but his attitude to the game is healthier. I watched and learned more and changed and got better. As for the maps...I never said otherwise. Most are survivor sided.
You and your friend saltykiller (who has many more downvotes btw lol) brought up rank, not me. You saying you're consistently rank 1 means little in regard to your skill. Yes, there's a skill ceiling...with a skill roof and skill walls and skill windows which can be peered through to see if you can actually learn from your mistakes instead of just blaming everything else. If you stream I would love to watch. No joke, I'm always open to watch killers
Insulting someone is good. It makes a rational mind think.
I have 100% THE GAME, as in I have every single achievement in the game. I am consistently rank 1 so no matter my gripes with the balance, I still rank up despite it. Hope that clarifies.
Agree to disagree. The experiment showed normal high rank games, whether you agree or not. I've got streams and experience otherwise.
If you know how I can magically delete giant pieces of wood I'm all ears. It's why I switch to Nurse and 4k. She doesn't get looped and can generally keep up with SB. I don't want to do that though. I wanna play Wraith, Freddy, Trapper, and actually be able to do something without 3 gens popping as I set up or chase. It's not a git gud or learning issue, the game's core mechanics are outdated, and broken in favor of survivors.
Or you got flagged cuz you act like a pompous ass? Just a thought? Kinda funny the only downvotes I have are disagreeing with you. I didn't flag yours, and I don't see any reason why anyone else would flag my replies to you. Except for you, but it's not a big deal to flag or vote down so why do it at all? Speculation though, could be wrong.
Agreed, but not everyone is Zubat, not everyone just plays to play. I'm hyper competitive. I can stay positive, and chill, but winning is fun for me. Even an extremely hard fought victory is fun. My victory I mean ruthless. A pip is a win or taking out a really toxic survivor is too. Its hard to just go against your nature, and not everyone can.
Who is my friend? I don't even remember his post? I'm not kidding. Also, I never said I was a god, or I don't make mistakes. When I stream I even say I ######### up. I don't mind losing, it's how I learn. It's how I got good as Nurse, and people have called me a scary af Huntress. It took time. You keep bringing this up but I've never once said I was perfect, merely stated my experience.
Your free to watch me get bullied, www.twitch.tv/caretakersgt. Usually stream at 10pm CST. I don't admit I'm the best, but I do well most games.
Not if you just piss them off. You can call someone out for being ignorant, or even misreading/misjudging. Calling them names doesn't change their mind. I enjoy ######### talking as well, but generally only if it's relevant/they wanna just throw words around instead.
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@only1biggs said:
Teabagging is cute and I don't care about it. If they have out played me in a situation and do it, I smile and give a nod as killer. Crouching repeatedly shouldn't bother you. It's funnyGlad you not worrying about it goes for every other person who plays the game. It might not bother me, or you, but other people get ticked off or annoyed.
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@only1biggs said:
@Caretaker said:
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As someone who generally slugs a bit, it's not very viable anymore unless you snowball. Survivors are smart and without KO they'll get those slugs back up cuz they'll be near full health. While you chase one they'll heal each other. Slugging is a huge risk, even if they don't run No Mither or Unbreakabill.Survivors are smart?
95% of the player base are brain dead, killers included.
And...snowball away. That's the point. But just getting two or three off gens is viable. If you can't see that then you're probably a bad killer
Not sure if that's aimed at me, but 100% the game. Like to think I know what I'm talking about. When I slug even with KO, survivors know to run you around until they can get a buddy up, or they'll stick on gens.
Not aimed at you really, but based on your response, you don't seem to understand that having them off gens is a good thing. What do you do when a slug is on the floor and someone else comes to help? Just stand there or actually kill them?
Even if you just get one hit on someone else before you pick up the slug, that's two people off gens. The other two can only do so much on the gens and need to help because team mates are important. If you have to chase someone who helps the slug and he/she "runs you around", then you still have two off gens, and probably three...I'm not sure why I'm having to explain this. People healing are not doing gens. It's simple.You get one down. You don't want to lose that slug right? So what next? You go chase other people off gens, or focus on that one slug hoping for someone to come in to heal? You choose to focus on that one slug.
Scenario 1: You down them super fast, and possibly the slug if they were picked up due to recovery. Now you have two slugs, that could arguably cause more trouble cuz they could easily just crawl away and stretch where you can be.
Scenario 2: They loop you and the other slug gets up. Do you stop the chase or go back and try to down the person who is injured? As you decide a gen pops.
Looping isn't infallible. A good team will get back up if you don't play it right. Sure you wasted some time, but if they just heal to full and you got 0 hooks, you just wasted time and gained nothing. I've slugged quite a few games, and Deerstalker is one of my most used perks, but it can be beaten rather easily. Especially if someone happens to have Unbreakabill.
Wow. I guess you're bad then? I mean...in both scenarios of yours you have people OFF gens. You either let them live or can't chase correctly or use bad killers
100% the game, consistently rank 1. It's almost like survivors do adapt despite how much we meme on them for being idiots. Everything you do as a killer is a risk, especially slugging. If you snowball off a slug and down everyone, gg. But if you let even one person stay up you risk losing your slugs. I'm a Huntress/Nurse main too. Stop seeing everything as black or white.
Also, you recognize Spudbar because he's a part of the 3 time champion team of Tydetyme's tournaments and the De-Pip Squad with Marth.
There's your problem right there...100% the game? So, there's NOTHING you can do differently to change and adapt and be better? Really? And I'm the one seeing in black & white? Jeez, shm
And yes, the de-pip squad. They proved a whole lot. That in the most extreme cases which never happens in game unless organised, the killer will lose nine times out of ten. Amazing.
So now I know why you're having a hard time grasping simple ideas...you watch a lot of tyde and marth? Tyde believes BBQ isn't as strong as people think and that DS is skill based and Marth, as solid as he is, has moaned about flashlights when not looking at a wall while picking up.
Yes, killers need help with safe pallets etc, but, the mentality of just blaming the other side or saying that they are stronger instead of first learning more and getting better needs to change. I used to be of the similar mindset to tyde and marth..then I stopped and thought about it and watched Zubat more..a guy I didn't know much of other than he played with Jen..they all got together to talk about the "state of the game", which while laughable, alerted me to one of the best killers in the game, hands down. I watched Zubat, learned more, got better and adjusted. Perhaps others should do the same?
*edit - oh..and rank means nothing or little to nothing my friend. Sorry
You're the second person to bring that up. Get a grip :'DLet's dissect your post here. I don't see a point since you're basically circle jerking yourself, but why not?
"here's your problem right there...100% the game? So, there's NOTHING you can do differently to change and adapt and be better? Really? And I'm the one seeing in black & white? Jeez, shm"
Where did I say that? Seriously, show me where I said I don't have bad games, or can't learn anything? I'm just pointing out I'm not a new killer, and I know what I'm doing. I ran Deerstalker for months, because gasp I actually slugged people. Shocker, I know. It's almost like I'm speaking about the effectiveness of slugging from an experienced viewpoint. Wew, lad.
"And yes, the de-pip squad. They proved a whole lot. That in the most extreme cases which never happens in game unless organised, the killer will lose nine times out of ten. Amazing."
Ah yes. This tired, old, debunked argument cuz god forbid someone point out the flaws of this game. I can't and don't understand why people are against the experiment. I stream from time to time, and a lot of the games are done in about 5 minutes if I don't snowball. There are coordinated non-swf teams. Even when I play survivor I've seen groups bodyblock and share info as if they were on voice comms. It's not hard to do your objective and get out.
It's happened all night. Ruin pops, I keep chasing/hooking, then adren pops, they loop, and dip if I don't kill them. The only way to truly win as a killer against even a remotely intelligent team which is pretty common. Despite your constant talks of how stupid people are who play this game. I could play a lot more "unfair" and tunnel/camp a bit, but I'd rather not play that way unless absolutely forced to do so.
"So now I know why you're having a hard time grasping simple ideas...you watch a lot of tyde and marth? Tyde believes BBQ isn't as strong as people think and that DS is skill based and Marth, as solid as he is, has moaned about flashlights when not looking at a wall while picking up."
It's no wonder to anyone why people can click your profile and see a plethora of downvotes, and even some reported for abuse. Yea, I do watch Tyde and Marth. Keyword, watch. Didn't say I agree with them on everything so your point is moot, and you're reaching so hard I'm surprised your arms haven't snapped off. BBQ isn't the as OP as people cry. It's super easy to deal with. Even if you can't, you can just loop like every survivor does. Same as DS, who said it was skill based?
I agree with Marth. It can be super frustrating that you have 0 counters to lights. Lightborn? They'll just blind sooner. Your options are to look at a wall, or lose your hook. My issue with it is the blinding white headache inducing screen. That needs an option to be turned black.
" Yes, killers need help with safe pallets etc, but, the mentality of just blaming the other side or saying that they are stronger instead of first learning more and getting better needs to change. I used to be of the similar mindset to tyde and marth..then I stopped and thought about it and watched Zubat more..a guy I didn't know much of other than he played with Jen..they all got together to talk about the "state of the game", which while laughable, alerted me to one of the best killers in the game, hands down. I watched Zubat, learned more, got better and adjusted. Perhaps others should do the same?> "
I've played the game on both sides plenty. All survivors run pretty much the exact same perks, play the exact same way. It's almost like survivor isn't hard and is absurdly strong. Zubat is a good killer, this is true. So is Marth, so is Blinky Bill, so is ScottJund. A lot of killers agree maps are survivor sided, that safe/vacuum pallets are way too strong, and jungle gyms need to be adjusted. There are killers that can lose by just getting a bad map.
Early I got Wretched Shop with a double/triple pallet spawn. My Ruin blew instantly, they all had SB, they all looped me hardcore and had pallets to spare. Survivors have issues, but they're pretty rare and more based on player interaction than actual game breaking mechanics/annoyances.
Everyone can learn, adapt, and get better, but killers have a cap. Outside of Nurse, you get looped. That's what you do. You can't mindgame it, you can't just stop them from doing it unless they mess up. There's a reason Freddy got nerfed, and it wasn't cuz killers are in a good spot right now.
Again, rank is to show experience, nothing more, but I find it cute you tell me to get a grip when you derail threads to say you disagree or insult someone.
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@Setsune said:
"MORI ME DADDY"( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@iOrangeStain said:
"hwo didu doo that!!!! IM SO MAD1111 ONLY KILLURS CNA SEEE THE WALLQ!!!!!" when I brought WardenI gotta run that more.
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10-15 minutes for sure. Every game I get the matches end in about 5 minutes cuz I just get looped and rushed. No one pips, so I don't know why they do it, but hey.
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@boogiewoogie said:
Just had a game were I knew they were not very good. Leatherface:
Downed 2 of them at the first pallet
3 healing in a corner etc etc It was a mess
Let them all escapeEnd game: "BP farmer!"
You can literally NEVER win
You really can't. I'm sitting around green ranks from not really playing, and it's miserable. Gens pop stupid fast, almost everyone has adren. At least I'm getting a few ggs.
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I just got told Killers are op cuz jungle gyms don't exist, neither do infinites, and that I'm a new player with 100% and 1000 hours played. Wew lads.
Clarification: They claim infinites made killers not op.
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@only1biggs said:
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As someone who generally slugs a bit, it's not very viable anymore unless you snowball. Survivors are smart and without KO they'll get those slugs back up cuz they'll be near full health. While you chase one they'll heal each other. Slugging is a huge risk, even if they don't run No Mither or Unbreakabill.Survivors are smart?
95% of the player base are brain dead, killers included.
And...snowball away. That's the point. But just getting two or three off gens is viable. If you can't see that then you're probably a bad killer
Not sure if that's aimed at me, but 100% the game. Like to think I know what I'm talking about. When I slug even with KO, survivors know to run you around until they can get a buddy up, or they'll stick on gens.
Not aimed at you really, but based on your response, you don't seem to understand that having them off gens is a good thing. What do you do when a slug is on the floor and someone else comes to help? Just stand there or actually kill them?
Even if you just get one hit on someone else before you pick up the slug, that's two people off gens. The other two can only do so much on the gens and need to help because team mates are important. If you have to chase someone who helps the slug and he/she "runs you around", then you still have two off gens, and probably three...I'm not sure why I'm having to explain this. People healing are not doing gens. It's simple.You get one down. You don't want to lose that slug right? So what next? You go chase other people off gens, or focus on that one slug hoping for someone to come in to heal? You choose to focus on that one slug.
Scenario 1: You down them super fast, and possibly the slug if they were picked up due to recovery. Now you have two slugs, that could arguably cause more trouble cuz they could easily just crawl away and stretch where you can be.
Scenario 2: They loop you and the other slug gets up. Do you stop the chase or go back and try to down the person who is injured? As you decide a gen pops.
Looping isn't infallible. A good team will get back up if you don't play it right. Sure you wasted some time, but if they just heal to full and you got 0 hooks, you just wasted time and gained nothing. I've slugged quite a few games, and Deerstalker is one of my most used perks, but it can be beaten rather easily. Especially if someone happens to have Unbreakabill.
Wow. I guess you're bad then? I mean...in both scenarios of yours you have people OFF gens. You either let them live or can't chase correctly or use bad killers
100% the game, consistently rank 1. It's almost like survivors do adapt despite how much we meme on them for being idiots. Everything you do as a killer is a risk, especially slugging. If you snowball off a slug and down everyone, gg. But if you let even one person stay up you risk losing your slugs. I'm a Huntress/Nurse main too. Stop seeing everything as black or white.
Also, you recognize Spudbar because he's a part of the 3 time champion team of Tydetyme's tournaments and the De-Pip Squad with Marth.
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@only1biggs said:
@Caretaker said:
They'll leave areas faster gain more distance, it's not gonna work sadly.This is the point. You are supposed to avoid the killer, not get caught with your pants down in the open and still get away because of a perk.
Yes, I'm aware, but if they're avoiding you into a jungle gym nothing has changed. If they continue to lose exhaustion during a chase and they're already running they'll get another sprint burst. So we're back to square one with a different way to use it.
They'll hear your heartbeat and instead of waiting, they'll run to prep SB and get even more distance.
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@RuneStarr said:
"Every Michael Myers are so ass they evil within every single time it makes you garbage using a 1 hit killer"Yup apparently using the killers ability makes you garbage. That one made me laugh.
Everything is op, and an exploit if you play killer don't you know? :P
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@MrChills said:
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I always bring moris and when you mori the first guy, they're always like ' oh #########" and be a bit more careful toward me.I got this after hooking everyone twice before moring. I mean EVERYONE. Not even if you get hooked twice you get morid. They still wanted to BM me. I don't mind shittalk, I don't mind bm, but I just find it odd how fair play seems to be what gets the most.
Just remember my fellow predator, you are a predator... COLD KILLER BUNNY, show no remorse, no fair play and glorious salt awaits you.. and victory!
That's the plan, fam.
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@Mc_Harty said:
@Caretaker said:
Please enlighten me as to how you mind game an open gate at the threshold. I didn't say I was annoyed. I just said they BM'd and that this is why a lot of killers tend to stop caring about whether or not they play "fair".Lot of good phrases here. Keep 'em coming.
To be fair, survivors that teabag are baiting you into chasing them.
He's not wrong when he says killers that invest too much time into a singular survivor lose the mind game. You're letting the annoyance of 1 survivor manipulate of your judgement.
When exits gate are open at that point however then they are just bragging.
That's what I'm confused about. I didn't tunnel, I didn't let get teabagged all game either. I was just saying it's weird that I go easy and play fair and get BM, but the opposite gets me ggs. :P He's not wrong, just not fitting to what I was saying.
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@only1biggs said:
@Caretaker said:
@MeowLux said:
Back when BT was broken. (Before nerf) I hooked someone and the 3 other survs came to the hooked person and literally were standing next to the hook, waiting for me to leave it. Then in the post-game chat they called me a "facecamper" even though I didn't do anything else than stay at the hook due to them being at the hook. I mean like they gave me every reason to camp.Simply being on the map after hooking makes you a camper. I didn't get salt for this, but I hooked every survivor twice. I had an Ebony mori. Meg opens the gate, and teabags me after dropping a pallet to BM. But why are killers such #########? I'm so confused. Why would they be so harsh against such kind people?
You lost the mind game if you're annoyed with people crouching repeatedly in games..
Please enlighten me as to how you mind game an open gate at the threshold. I didn't say I was annoyed. I just said they BM'd and that this is why a lot of killers tend to stop caring about whether or not they play "fair".
Lot of good phrases here. Keep 'em coming.
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@only1biggs said:
@Caretaker said:
@only1biggs said:
@Caretaker said:
As someone who generally slugs a bit, it's not very viable anymore unless you snowball. Survivors are smart and without KO they'll get those slugs back up cuz they'll be near full health. While you chase one they'll heal each other. Slugging is a huge risk, even if they don't run No Mither or Unbreakabill.Survivors are smart?
95% of the player base are brain dead, killers included.
And...snowball away. That's the point. But just getting two or three off gens is viable. If you can't see that then you're probably a bad killer
Not sure if that's aimed at me, but 100% the game. Like to think I know what I'm talking about. When I slug even with KO, survivors know to run you around until they can get a buddy up, or they'll stick on gens.
Not aimed at you really, but based on your response, you don't seem to understand that having them off gens is a good thing. What do you do when a slug is on the floor and someone else comes to help? Just stand there or actually kill them?
Even if you just get one hit on someone else before you pick up the slug, that's two people off gens. The other two can only do so much on the gens and need to help because team mates are important. If you have to chase someone who helps the slug and he/she "runs you around", then you still have two off gens, and probably three...I'm not sure why I'm having to explain this. People healing are not doing gens. It's simple.You get one down. You don't want to lose that slug right? So what next? You go chase other people off gens, or focus on that one slug hoping for someone to come in to heal? You choose to focus on that one slug.
Scenario 1: You down them super fast, and possibly the slug if they were picked up due to recovery. Now you have two slugs, that could arguably cause more trouble cuz they could easily just crawl away and stretch where you can be.
Scenario 2: They loop you and the other slug gets up. Do you stop the chase or go back and try to down the person who is injured? As you decide a gen pops.
Looping isn't infallible. A good team will get back up if you don't play it right. Sure you wasted some time, but if they just heal to full and you got 0 hooks, you just wasted time and gained nothing. I've slugged quite a few games, and Deerstalker is one of my most used perks, but it can be beaten rather easily. Especially if someone happens to have Unbreakabill.
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@only1biggs said:
@Caretaker said:
As someone who generally slugs a bit, it's not very viable anymore unless you snowball. Survivors are smart and without KO they'll get those slugs back up cuz they'll be near full health. While you chase one they'll heal each other. Slugging is a huge risk, even if they don't run No Mither or Unbreakabill.Survivors are smart?
95% of the player base are brain dead, killers included.
And...snowball away. That's the point. But just getting two or three off gens is viable. If you can't see that then you're probably a bad killer
Not sure if that's aimed at me, but 100% the game. Like to think I know what I'm talking about. When I slug even with KO, survivors know to run you around until they can get a buddy up, or they'll stick on gens.
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@TheWorldconsumer said:
After killing 3 of the four survs and managing to hatch-grab the last one (no hatch standoff, by the way), the last one wrote that the killer was "supposed to let the last one get the hatch".....yeah, nope.
Give me my free win!
@Mc_Harty said:
@Caretaker said:
@Leon said:
"killers can pallet loop too"Good old Goo. He's selling merch with that on it now.
lol good for him.
Least he can take a joke.
I mean he made it. :P
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Personally I don't want to lose a chase due to some outside source. I don't mind losing a match. Even if I get frustrated I calm down and can realize I made mistakes. However, with the current meta/core mechanics gens are done absurdly fast, the maps are poorly designed, and looping is an easy win. I'd much prefer a survivor who can stealth me, even if it is a bit boring. Though I'd probably say I'm split. A good chase feels good, but lately killer feels like a job and sucks the fun out.
The survivors that give me a good chase without cheesing me are my favorite players. The ones who can outsmart me mid-chase and use LOS and some risk to lose me.
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Benedict Baker. Assuming he'd be brought in as a DLC survivor. If not going off lore, I'd vote for one of the original four. Probably Dwight or Claudette. They're empathetic so probably easier to control.
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@MrChills said:
I always bring moris and when you mori the first guy, they're always like ' oh #########" and be a bit more careful toward me.I got this after hooking everyone twice before moring. I mean EVERYONE. Not even if you get hooked twice you get morid. They still wanted to BM me. I don't mind shittalk, I don't mind bm, but I just find it odd how fair play seems to be what gets the most.
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As someone who generally slugs a bit, it's not very viable anymore unless you snowball. Survivors are smart and without KO they'll get those slugs back up cuz they'll be near full health. While you chase one they'll heal each other. Slugging is a huge risk, even if they don't run No Mither or Unbreakabill.
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Or you can use Urban Evasion and almost completely negate the lack of faster movement AND gain the benefit of better stealth. Or you can just run Vigil and Sprint Burst around anyway cuz you'll get it super fast. As for running before getting SB it'll be a buff in my eyes. They'll leave areas faster gain more distance, it's not gonna work sadly.
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Pretty much where I'm at atm. I'm just playing to play. If they die, they die. Yea, I had someone super toxic in my game as the Pig once. I sat there and roared repeatedly at the hook as her buddies tried to save. Was hilarious.
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@Absolute_Zero said:
I got called a campernoob and tunneler after i moried everyone with my devour hope. Clearly camped them.Clearly you did, and you're a hacker too mori'ng without a mori, me report you.
@yeet said:
got called an "instasaw abuser" only using a spark plug and vegetable oil.I can't wait until they see a REAL instasaw.
@Leon said:
"killers can pallet loop too"Good old Goo. He's selling merch with that on it now.
@deadwolfwalking said:
i was told by a toxic meg that 'ds can be countered by not downing her'.... lol. i think it was a joke....She's not wrong. No Mither counters one-shot abilities. :^)
@Separator said:
After I got a 4k with Leatherface I had a survivor tell me that I was "pay to play." I proceeded to explain that he was correct, the game costs $20 to play, and then he just went on an expletive filled rant about how Leatherface is OP and pay to win.Weak killer, super strong perks, don't think BBQ is gonna care poor Bubba though. Nice work.
@BUCKLEYbellows said:
The typical "Dirty Camper" when using Insidious.
I rarely use it as its a meme build but I always look forward to the comments after lolI really gotta try to do that sometime.
@Valkari said:
When I get called a "tryhard" or "sweaty" (usually after a 4k). Like.. am I not suppose to KILL you?Nope. Let them all live. Sounds like AngryPugs chat. If a killer does well they're a sweaty tryhard. Even if they hook everyone twice and don't tunnel or camp.
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@Antero said:
From my steam profile:
"i call hax noob3 doesn't repair gens, fake and gay" ( DON'T QUESTION ME I DON'T KNOW)
Also simple:
"-rep camper (from the game I was playing as the survivor)Stop camping my corpse noob. Also fake and gay damn. Haven't heard that since..god I can't even remember and I was there to witness it.
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@Absolute_Zero said:
I got called a campernoob and tunneler after i moried everyone with my devour hope. Clearly camped them.The madman. Clearly you're a hacker too. Me report you.
@JakeMain said:
"Killers shouldn't use add-ons" - some survivor.Maybe on Nurse? Or if you're super comfortable, but they're so bad lol. Let me guess Stypic or a BNP?
@yeet said:
got called an "instasaw abuser" only using a spark plug and vegetable oil.As LF or Billy? Well, either way it's fast, but not THAT fast. Easily avoided compared to other combos.
@Leon said:
"killers can pallet loop too"Good old Goo. He's selling merch with that on it now.
@deadwolfwalking said:
i was told by a toxic meg that 'ds can be countered by not downing her'.... lol. i think it was a joke....I mean, she's not wrong. No Mither counters 1-shot abilities. :^)
@Separator said:
After I got a 4k with Leatherface I had a survivor tell me that I was "pay to play." I proceeded to explain that he was correct, the game costs $20 to play, and then he just went on an expletive filled rant about how Leatherface is OP and pay to win.One of the weakest killers, but best perks, definitely P2W. Somehow I don't think BBQ is gonna carry poor Bubba. Well done.> @BUCKLEYbellows said:
The typical "Dirty Camper" when using Insidious.
I rarely use it as its a meme build but I always look forward to the comments after lolI need to actually do that once. I wanted to do it as Huntress with Iri hatchets for a meme game, but she still sings. As much as I love her lullaby ruins the joke build. :P> @Valkari said:
When I get called a "tryhard" or "sweaty" (usually after a 4k). Like.. am I not suppose to KILL you?
Sounds like a typical day in AngryPug's chat. Killer is so sweaty, GIVE HIM THE BUSINESS PUG LUL!
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@RSB said:
Toxic survviors will be toxic no matter what you do - win or lose, do not show any mercy to them, because they will not show it to you.I just can't shake the idea of wanting to give a fair game. I don't wanna end a game super fast. It's part of why I don't play survivor, but I feel you. I've been more open to re-hooking a survivor if they got farmed/protecting the hook/going after weaker players now. I try to avoid it, but sometimes if the game is going fast I just stop caring.
@Leon said:
From their side it feels non toxic, unless they sure know what is toxic and whats not, it is more like "haha i win now, you lose" sort of childish act.I get it, I understand they're just being idiots, but I don't get when I give them a fair game I get BM. I get teabagged, toxic after chat. When I play in a way that would frustrate even me as a survivor I get ggs. It's the oddest thing I've ever seen.
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@Runiver said:
@Caretaker said:
@Runiver said:
Some survivor told me, after I blocked him to chainsaw him as BIlly :
"I'll report you"
"Bodyblocking isn't reportable, read the rules"
"In my rules, it's reportable, so I'll report you"Cute stuff.
It's only an exploit if killers do it. It's a tactic for survivors.
Could have been an exploit if it was actual blocking for an extended period of time, but he was just in a corner, crouching and got chainsawed lol
I know, but I've actually heard that bodyblocking a survivor for a chainsaw hit is exploiting once playing as LF lol.
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@Runiver said:
Some survivor told me, after I blocked him to chainsaw him as BIlly :
"I'll report you"
"Bodyblocking isn't reportable, read the rules"
"In my rules, it's reportable, so I'll report you"Cute stuff.
It's only an exploit if killers do it. It's a tactic for survivors.
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@Spectrobyss said:
I was accused of using lag hatchets that always hit survivorsMagnetic Hatchets are an op addon. I'm a Huntress main I can confirm this.> @RSB said:
"Hope your other die of cancer, I report you, [BAD WORD] noob"
or my favourite
"[BAD WORD] you camper ######### go burn in hell die [BAD WORD] #########"
How dare you win. I'm gonna report you too.
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@wraith_only said:
3 survivors after a match told me: "Stop wallhacking you piece of ****, you are going to get permabanned" etc etc.
I was using BBQ & Chili -shrug-A classic.
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@Eross1b said:
"sweaty tryhard using instasaw" when they were all using bnps.How dare you try to have fun.
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I was just saying that it needs to adjusted. It's a free escape every time. An easy fix to start off is you GAIN exhaustion while being chased. So if you use SB, you aren't getting it again and unless you lose the killer you won't be getting it back.
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Right now survivors aren't scared of you at all, and that's a big factor in how fast gens get done. Factor in toolboxes, +gen boosting perks, etc, and they burn stupid fast. If a survivor sees you're in a chase/hitting a survivor it's a free generator. It's insane how fast gens are finished. I had a game where I was actually snowballing hard. Quick chase, hook. Quick chase, hook. 3 gens done. One per hook somehow. The free survivors were pounding gens then saving, and I couldn't really do anything unless I wanted to camp, and I don't want to be forced to play that way.
Ruin is our only way to counter it, and with the awful totem spawns it's a meme. It is a literal wasted slot as higher rank survivors will gen tap or just hit the checks anyway. But we HAVE to run it despite it blowing at the start of the match.
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@MeowLux said:
Back when BT was broken. (Before nerf) I hooked someone and the 3 other survs came to the hooked person and literally were standing next to the hook, waiting for me to leave it. Then in the post-game chat they called me a "facecamper" even though I didn't do anything else than stay at the hook due to them being at the hook. I mean like they gave me every reason to camp.Simply being on the map after hooking makes you a camper. I didn't get salt for this, but I hooked every survivor twice. I had an Ebony mori. Meg opens the gate, and teabags me after dropping a pallet to BM. But why are killers such #########? I'm so confused. Why would they be so harsh against such kind people?
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@MrChills said:
" I beat your ass with the flashlight" even though I mori'ed him..Point & Click Adventures never took so much skill.
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@DarXide said:
Today, some Rank 5 Survivor told me I was using "too sweaty tryhard using purple add-on's" on Doctor. I was using the 2 add-on's that increase the amount of Madness Survivors get from the static field by 25% with Tinkerer. That equals out to about 56% more static generating Madness.Well damn, what would he consider Iridescent King and High Stimulus Electrode?
Clearly that would mean you're drowning in sweat, and we need to send the EMTs to your house to drain the fluid from your lungs before you asphyxiate and die.
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@Gibberish said:
I remember one time I got called a "wall camper" because I always faced the wall to avoid getting blinded.
This was back when instaflashes were a thing, too so yeah they werent too happy.What? I'm literally in awe. I don't even have a proper response for that.
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Cleared the board, woo! Tahxic.