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I remember seen a post not long ago analyzing the personalities of them and which perk may belong to whom.
No, these people won't be added to the game since most of the names are "Easter eggs" that are referring to certain bhvr employees or community managers.
Still, it's implied that the population of the Fog is never limited to the playable characters. The Lore characters are there/have been there too.
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@Guiltron said:
He's not the Alchemist/Vigo, he's the Observer, a brand new character for the lore.
That's misheard Archivist...
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@End_of_Slayer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/732565#Comment_732565
King did a fantastic interview with Mathieu and Mathieu explained that the Archives are coming this patch, alongside the release of the Withering Blight event. Meaning the tome we get for the first 3 months is based off of the Withering Blight. Meaning we are getting lore for the Withering Blight in this tome in the next two weeks
Aww, were there any more detailed information about the Withering Blight? Will it bring new animations, goals and journal entries or simply repeating that of last year? I'm so hungry for lore, my VPN broke and now I cannot visit youtube :/
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I doubt if Baker had anything to do with the Hallowed Blight. The entries stopped before the Shattered Bloodline Chapter, as Rin and Adam didn't get proper quote either.
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The Devs confirmed in the lore stream that she never managed to kill her father as she got pulled into the realm before doing anything. The fury of not having been revenged keeps her going along...
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I'm afraid you'll have to sacrifice so much more than just one survivor to ensure an escape from the Entity.
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@Talmeer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/621907#Comment_621907
They have never tell what exactly Joey and Susie are far as I remember, but I guess Joey and Susie are a pair.
When we think on the situation, the Legion is in and what choices are avaible for Joey... Only Susie is left since Frank and Julie are already a pair.
Btw... Julie my girl^^. Take your Franks and Joeys. I stay by her :O) (why the song "Stand by me" comes now in my head? Damn... sometimes I am weird - Imagine a Legion is singing that in the woods :D).
come on, the Legion is a gang of teen criminals, like a wolf pack. There might be the Alpha couple, but the four are held together by their immense craving for violence and abandon, not any romantic relationship.
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About Crapper though... well, we already have Freddy remake, so...
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Nah, but their work is of high quality and I think is appreciated by the Devs
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@BlueFang said:
I was hoping they would fall up on the Hallowed Blight lore but they've pretty much done nothing with it
I have a feeling that if the character featured in the lore does become a playable killer his gimmick will probably be that he can destroy pallets super fast
I thought the antagonist (the Monster) in the Lore was either Trapper or a reference to that unused killer concept, the Smasher.
How about instead the protagonist losing all hope and becoming a, I dunno, a killer like Herbert West from Re-animator...
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@DocOctober said:
The Journal is wrong. It's 1956 when Benedict enters the Realm of the Entity. 1856 is the wrong date. The devs have stated it as a typo long ago.XxAtomicAlfiexX said:@DocOctober said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
the trapper is from the 19th century (1800-1900) i think.That would make him the oldest Killer, which we know is not the case.
there is a new comment off of me that was typed yesterday but i just posted which is my proof he is the oldest killer.
Baker journeyed on toward the Town of Weeks in 1956, that's for sure. And there's this:
~ Benedict Baker's Journal, Nov. 1896 (displayed to Players after opening the Bloodweb for the first time on a Character)
Well it's not Trapper related, but Baker did mention the 19th century. I think they used this to show the concept of time is messed up in the Entity's realm. This one is not a typo, right? or they should have corrected it long ago.
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@End_of_Slayer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/594048#Comment_594048
Now that you say the survivors could learn about Vigo through them... it gave me an idea. I’m sticking with the theory on this character being a killer for now. But what if the Entity took them and they became the Archivist. Would explain why they have their own place, would explain why they know so much, and if this is truly Benedict Baker, it would explain why he’s in charge of an Archive. An infinite source of knowledge, a way to figure things out, that’s what he wanted.
And now that I think about it, Dave during the anniversary stream, told us that we have to figure out the Prisoner’s lore. If this year is the year of lore, this has to be a character we know. They wouldn’t give us a new character for the lore of the game. This cannot be filler, it would make total sense if this is Benedict. Could I be reading too much into this? Yes... but I can’t wait for the Archives, it’s going to be a plethora of lore to behold
Despite eager to know the recent status of the characters we are rather familiar with, I'm fine with the Archivist turning out to be neither Vigo nor Benedict. The Fog holds immense possibilities that shouldn't be limited to the current volume of the lore. I personally love to see more notes from Benedict's perspective as a survivor, so... a bit sullen about giving him away to the Entity, lol.
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The cosmetics are fabricated with Auric Cells and given to the Survivors and Killers to reward their compliance. So, technically the clothes you wear are part of the Entity.
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@End_of_Slayer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/591690#Comment_591690
The final theory is most likely. Our character is normal in the beginning, but slowly is driven down the path of madness. A few key points are as follows;
1) The rat bites them
2) Bite becomes infected and swells up
3) Fights the monster while blacked out and wins what should have been an impossible fight.
4) They inject themself with the serum, possibly enhancing the effects of the bite.
5) And finally, the rage of being deceived. Or were they? Vigo never got to finish his research, Côté also said that Vigo isn’t in the Entity’s realm anymore. Meaning two things; First, they found a way to escape the Entity’s world completely. Or, he got sent to the Void. Either way, the serum not letting this character escape sent him mad, which allowed the Entity to see the potential. The fury at Vigo for the misinformation, and the damaged mind from the serum, absolutely means they had to have been taken.
I used to place the Blight Researcher among the survivors (which would lead to hilarious situations if they made it finally to the campfire and others. Like, they would be the only source others learn about Vigo). Now that I think about it, their becoming a killer is also pretty cool. Check out my recent fan art, maybe...
https://selkade.tumblr.com/post/186510077168/head-canon-hallowed-blight-chapter-new-survivor
I just gave them random head-canon looks... I'm pretty okay if one day they get canon appearance differing much from my prediction. I'm actually expecting such thing to happen, I guess. Before the Halloween Event, the wiki said Vigo was a girl, and I believed so for 6 months lol
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Ah, sorry for spamming. I didn't realize comments containing links have to be approved first.
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@ceridwen309 said:
I'm excited to get more story to tie all these pieces together. I have a feeling a lot of them will end in tears.
Also, hoping for more events in the future that may give more lore potential.
I love the game and its unique story telling. It's troubling how many people I met (and even myself sometimes) are ignorant about the Lore as if it's completely separated from gameplay, like some secondary, dispensable ornament.
I've actually read into the quotes of the unseen characters, given them head-canon looks in fan arts, and imagined what's been happening beyond our playable characters' world. Sounds a bit silly, maybe. I know the devs are never obliged to provide with more lore, after all. It's not their first priority compared to making new DLC, establishing servers or adjusting game balance, that have-more-people-satisfied sort of thing. But I sorta like what they have been doing and are planning to do in the coming year... more Lore and events please! The text sometimes gives me the motivation to play on.
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@DocOctober said:
The devs confirmed in the Hallowed Blight stream that it was Benedict, that should be the end of such discussions.
Also, the person who wrote Benedict's original journal and the person that writes the Lore nowadays is not the same anymore, so obviously the writing style differs.
I watched the Lore stream before the event, at least part of it, and couldn't remember such confirmation. I recall they said Benedict's still a survivor, Vigo no longer is, and we may hear more from him in the coming event, etc. They didn't seem to want to spoil it (while the journal entries had already been data-mined and uploaded by fans, lol). Would you please pin the exact time that they confirmed this in the video? I'll definitely understand if you don't, but if you do you'll be doing a great favor for me and others that's interested in the Lore! <3
btw: I know you Doc! Thank you for your time and energy dedicated to the wiki!
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@End_of_Slayer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/590548#Comment_590548
It’s possible that the Entity wasn’t focused on our character, but rather on the purge going throughout its body. This would explain why the Entity never did anything and had one of its puppets attack for it.
Another thing is that it would be impossible to know exactly what day it is... unless you had just gotten taken the day before. If our character knows all of the dates for their journal, they just got taken, this would explain as to why we haven’t seen them as a killer yet, they still have more torturous training to go through. The theory so lines up, because you’ll think that time works like it doesn’t in our world at first. So every time they sleep, another day goes by. That’s why they know the dates
You mean the Entity took them in not as a survivor, but as a killer and the whole process was a training session? I don't know, we know nearly 0% of the characters past. They seemed pretty normal during their early journal entries and even showed sympathy for those "poor souls" screaming in the distance.
Make me wonder in what circumstances the Entity smelled their "murderer potential", which according to the devs is vital when the Entity decides who can work for it, for example Philip or Rin. An opium den surely is a dangerous place, lol
I used to lean toward the theory that
1) Either they were taken in as a survivor (but unfortunately never got to meet other teammates of that trial), and after the Hallowed Blight they lost all strength to fight on, accepted the coming death and became useless to the Entity so the latter grabbed them and disposed of them in the Void, where all hopeless survivors went;
2) Or they were taken in too early in time, that trials like what we see today hadn't even been designed yet: monsters roaming everywhere, no campfire, no generators or gates.
And there's this third option:
3) They had their murderer potential awakened during the misadventure, driven mad by isolation, pain and rage of being deceived (by Vigo). The monsters never bothered to attack them again, since they were now the same as them.
Pretty cool, still. Who wouldn't like a torturous mad-science-student type of killer.
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@End_of_Slayer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/590245#Comment_590245
I haven’t looked at the lore from the Blight in awhile, but if I remember correctly, the monster shattered the walls after the experiment escaped. Which means the experiment probably went back to the lab to kill the character that tortured it. As for the rat, well, it was their only friend in this world (even though it bit them.) This shows how insane our character has gotten, allowing the Entity to finally capture our character and turn them against the survivors.
I checked the wiki, things happening in chronological order:
1) Discovered the laboratory
2) Monster broke in; arm wounded, hid in the woods
3) Returned to the lab, experimented with the rodent, old wound got bitten
4) Monster returned; chained it to the cellar
5) Monster escaped after injection (and never came back again)
After that things got really weird as the character suffered sanity drain and became an unreliable narrator.
Since the Pustulas, or "Entity flowers" were blossoming everywhere, one could hardly say that the district around the Lab was undisturbed by Entity forces. It may be pretty weak around that time of the year though.
The theory about the moon is amazing. I wonder how they tell how much time passed in the endless night... maybe there was a clock...
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@End_of_Slayer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/590217#Comment_590217
Seems like it. Vigo is long gone because our character in question yells for him near the end to no avail. The part where the Entity takes him in is after he leaves the lab if I’m correct. But the lab is in an area where it wasn’t able to get found. Vigo figures something out with the Auric Cells and bended them to his will, allowing him to create an area that the Entity couldn’t see. Plus I think the moon has a bigger role, our character in question looks at the moon and can feel the Entity’s presence if I remember correctly
I don't think the Lab was a safe place. The monster, if such a thing really existed, somehow sniffed it out and shattered the walls while breaking in.
Also the character should have returned to the Lab before Entity took them, as they, in despair, "feed the dead rodent under my pillow". Or maybe, it's not impossible that they always carry a dead rat and a pillow with them each time they went outdoors. 😁
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@End_of_Slayer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/590191#Comment_590191
Vigo created a lab where the Entity couldn’t reach. Allowing him to research in peace. I don’t know if the person researching the Blight was Benedict or not. Devs stated that they want to continue with the lore before anything happens with Benedict. Côté also said that they want year 4 (This game year) to be a more maritime direction for the game, as in more lore is going to get revealed about Benedict, Vigo, the Entity and this world as a whole
But it's believed that everything in the realm is made of the Entity (auric cells). How can someone use the Entity to create something the Entity couldn't reach lol
What about the monsters trying to break in... And the super suspicious "Entity is here" at the end of the journals? Does that mean Vigo's gone, the spells wearing off and the Fog's old rules regaining power over the place?
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Also, I'm pretty sure the Blight researcher was the reason Entity launched the Endgame Collapse mechanic... Dude super toxic, teabaggin' the killers and wouldn't leave the trial for weeks until Entity itself came for them...
Wait, were they even in a trial? It was nothing like what we know in game. There seemed to be MULTIPLE monsters and NO generator.
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@Ember_Hunter said:
How were the writing g styles different?
Guess I was a bit hasty about that statement lol
I got the feeling Baker's earlier journals showed a more educated, linguistically symmetrical way of analyzing situation and expressing emotions? Like, the selection of verbs and metaphors... I'm not a native English speaker though, so I'm open to counter opinions.
Still there are other evidences. If the Hallowed Blight happened right after "Baker" entered the Realm, the time wouldn't be right (unless Baker Journal 1st Edition™ is no longer a thing) :
??? SEPTEMBER (?)
I can not explain what happened today. I awoke to find myself in this strange place. I have no memory of how I came here. My last recollection was of leaving Wetherfield and beginning my journey towards The Macmillan Estate. The last part I had to travel by foot.. A seemingly never ending fire burns next to me. I can not even tell how long I lay asleep. This area of the woods seems to have no day or night, just an intolerable gloom. Unsure what awaits me but I will keep filling this journal. Maybe with a hope to warn others.
Looking forward to the coming Archive to explain at least some of this mystery. 🙊