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And Killers don't get points for snuffing them.
Open a Thread in Feedback & Discussions and ask for Survival points for Boons (if you really want them to be meta), and Snuffing Boons to award Deviousness points.
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You're right, Behavior Interactive does not sell NFT's, They just endorse, partner with, and provide content to be used in the creation of NFT's.
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@senki527 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2576278#Comment_2576278
steam will unban crypto games, nft's etc. one day, just wait.
Sure, if their technology improves, but I highly doubt that Bitcoin is ever really going to concern itself with improving and will quite literally be the reason for government regulation of blockchains.
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@fogdonkey said:
Mass hysteria based on incomplete understanding of NFTs, inability to correctly comprehend tweets/text, unrealistic fear of Steam deleting DBD.
Many people complain about the environmental impact of NFTs, which is correct because NFTs use cryptocurrencies to work, and cryptocurrencies have high energy demand which mostly comes from coal plants. But this is a bit unfair, because I don't believe they were outraging when some companies started to accept e.g. Bitcoins.
Speaking as someone who didn't really give a crap about crypto because I didn't easily understand it at first and was like: meh, cool, doing computations in tandem with associating it with a currency, sounds like a win-win... like when Borderlands 3 did that thing where they helped solve some problems with an in-game minigame!
And then I read up about it more.
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Depending on how much of a cash-grab Boss Protocol is, it could literally also just be a PNG of the Butterball toy it's "rumored" to be based that you "get".
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@Mr_K said:
Like how we are trying to save the world by bad mouthing Ethereum when Bitcoin, being more popular, uses far more energy per transaction.
Ethereum: 166.99kWh per transaction
Bitcoin: 1719.51kWh per transaction
I wonder how much carbon we introduced by moving to dedicated servers over p2p? 🤔
I'm more concern that people are getting ripped off by NFT scams. But as far as DBD goes there's no NFTs or exclusive content. So until that changes, I don't give damn.
Personally I'm just bad-mouthing BHVR's endorsement of the current state of NFT's
If they started to accept Bitcoin as a form of payment that'd be a whole worse mess.
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@fogdonkey said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2575815#Comment_2575815
Explain it as you want, but I would not understand anything from your explanation and also would not know where does the environmental impact come from.
Oh this isn't using an environmental angle.
But who in their right mind would waste 5-gallons of gas to give someone cash when you could just hand it to them, and that gas could be used for a boat or your ATV?
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@PalletsAndHooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2575781#Comment_2575781
The people demand exploded propane tanks. They hardly blink at hat trades anymore. Hats don't unite the world anymore, but exploded propane tanks sure so.
Unfortunately, politics are a big key characteristic in all this; if you are for a one-world economy, then you would be rooting for decentralized currency such as NFTs and crypto. Advancements in technology will eventually make crypto and NFTs far less damaging to the environment. It's not a conspiracy, it's simply intuitive.
I'll probably get banned for pointing that fact out. See ya in three months!
Oh yeah, I can see the use for NFT/crypto as a currency, but not with the current implementation as you note.
The point is you should probably try to get people who are unaware of what this all is to understand what they are supporting with the current implementation.
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@fogdonkey said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2575768#Comment_2575768
More like this:
If the customer wants to pay, they send a letter to one of the Blockchain factories saying that I am giving this money to the seller. Then the seller waits a few minutes until it receives an update from the Blockchain factory which says that this transaction was minted into a Blockchain block, which confirms that the money is now owned by the seller. The Blockchain factory uses a lot of energy which probably comes from a coal plant.
Right, but now redneck the terms down.
Send a letter: Grab cash from wallet.
Perform anti-doublespend checks: Tape the cash to a rock and detonate it at the cashier. (using rough industry standard measurements)
Both parties now understand the transaction was valid (with a negative connotation): The Cashier wonders ######### that moron was thinking?
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@PalletsAndHooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2575750#Comment_2575750
I mean valve invented the tf2 hat economy and it's micro market so I'm not sure if that would be moot or not.
What valve doesn't like is not capitalizing on their "30%". If the steam keys generated have any purchaser value, and valve gains any compensation for the NFT dlc keys, then valve probably won't care. $.03 still gives valve a penny, if they do in fact charge around 30% for any sale of anything on their platform, right?
It would be ez enough for bhvr to mass produce those dlc keys at an exorbitantly low rate and move those low cost dlc keys into massive net gains with these NFTs. They're basically a subscription service in that regard. Valve might not like it, but they're big shticklers for their own rules.
I mean, there's a difference between a micro market that says: For every transaction, we turn on a lightbulb for 1s.
Versus a micromarket that says: For every transaction, we detonate a Propane Tank.
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@fogdonkey said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2575626#Comment_2575626
Validating that you own the cryptocurrency is not resource intensive.
Saving transactions into the blockchain is the resource intensive part. (It is needed to prevent undoing past transactions).
Oh, gotcha, so a better comparison would be to say
"If you were a gas station clerk that asked a customer for a $20 to pay for the gas, the customer went outside, taped the $20 to a rock, lit a 5 Gallon barrel of gas on fire, causing an explosion sending the $20 hurtling into the register , would you be concerned about their sanity?"
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@PalletsAndHooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2575708#Comment_2575708
Because they are not using any blockchain technology nor are they making the exchange for the crypto/NFT on the dbd product itself. Everything is occurring outside Steamworks, so it does not violate any Steamworks rules
Right. I'm just wondering if Valve considered NFT's gaining traction like lootboxes, and companies and games hosted on steam making deals with 3rd parties to essentially sell NFT bundles outside of the steam market while still being able to target the steam customer base.
"DBD partners with Twisted Pictures and Boss Protocol in order to "Play a Game", all NFT holders gain access to all SAW related DBD cosmetics and characters in addition to a Virtual Funko Pop with exclusive artwork and members chat available only on the Boss Protocol forums!"
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@MeltingPenguins said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2575661#Comment_2575661
with this specific image though people pointed out it's an image of an already existing action figure.... though, i'd not be surprised.
But here's the thing: the moment they have anything 'nft exclusive' they'd be off steam, because that moment the game would fall under the rule that there mustn't be content in a game that is purchased through nfts, no matter if it is a different company selling that #########
Hmm. Depending on how granular Valve is, if those keys are Steam Keys that would technically be an NFT exclusive. Sure, BHVR might say that the license holders are the ones who bundled the Keys with Boss Protocol in their own deal, but what difference does that make in terms of a Steam associated DBD Product being distributed through an NFT?
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@kosmi said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2575626#Comment_2575626
Well when you put it like that yes. But there is another way to do it. Have an organisation that can check chems in gassoline.
Yet again what is the hysteria for NFT. All i managed to get is that is some kind of block chain, crypto what ever. Why lossing ######### over nft and not over bit coin?
Until nations all collaborate to create that oversight, it'll still be going on, partly because people that enjoy these popular NFT's and Blockchains love the lack of regulation. "The Man" isn't regulating their money or how they spend it.
And yeah, bitcoin is much worse, moreso 53 Gallons of gas per transaction. However if you're not a fan of bitcoin, why would you be a fan of the commercialization of its competitor to the point that it becomes just as bad?
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@kosmi said:
Yo bro what is the problem with NFT. Why you lose your sh*t for that?
If you handed a Gas station clerk a $20 Bill and then they took out a 5 gallon barrel of gas and lit it on fire to "validate" that the $20 you gave them was legit, would you be concerned for their sanity?
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DBD KBMM: Introducing Campers and Hackers to time-invested players. Exposing a lot of the toxicity that new Players would normally experience to "Veterans" who are usually more vocal.
DBD Supporting NFTs: (NFT's are basically digital "Keys" whose creation and transfer require about 5 gallons of gas for every digital transaction (if using Ethereum), which is not only bad for the environment, but is also a waste of resources and endorses the exploitation of under-developed but resource rich nations, where fuel is cheap).
Boss Protocol, if they are using Ethereum, are planning on using an estimated 50,000 gallons of gas purely to setup a blockchain of Hellraiser PNG's created for them by BHVR using DBD assets.