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@RaSavage42 said:
Fair enough
thank ya
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@Xbob42 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1633573#Comment_1633573
I mean frankly I think the roar is kind of overkill for how weak and short her ambush is, it's not like it's a one-shot or something. Where is the roar even coming from? Girl got one loud snoot.
ok so fair point just remove the roar all together
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@DaRealxFactor said:
Would replenishing RBTs after removal (similar to Hag traps & Freddy dream snares & pallets) be too OP? π€
depends if they auto go back to your inventory or if you get a sound notification from the box it was removed from maybeeeeee 10 seconds after removal and you have to go back and make it again and the animation takes 5 seconds? auto would be OP the second one i think it would be fair as an add-on
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@RaSavage42 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1633572#Comment_1633572
Then why not make Rule Set No. 2 better?
i just want something that makes it so they cant get the box off on the first box.
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@MusicNerd_TC said:
BBQ is an amazing perk for him, because of his amazing mobility. When you hook someone you can just b-line to a BBQ aura and start a chase.
Whispers is also amazing, because it saves you so much time, and helps you get into chases faster, probably the second best perk on him after BBQ.
Infectious allows you to snowball downs very quick, and earns you tons of map pressure (note: only equip this perk if you want to slug).
Enduring allows you to disrespect pallets with the chainsaw.
ok i think for my fourth perk i will run whispers thank you.
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@azame said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/193249/i-need-a-good-hillbilly-build-please
Bamboozle, bbq, pop, infectious fright. The goal is to slug as much as possible and use pop and bbq to regress gens and find your next kills. Bamboozle is a great way to zone free chainsaws.
ok thank you
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@hillbillyclaudmain69 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/193249/i-need-a-good-hillbilly-build-please
As a former billy main, id say bbq, enduring, tinkerer, and pop.
yah i was thinking enduring too. the 2 were mor up to grabs. whispers is good on him too right?
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@Kumnut768 said:
bbq,enduring,whispers,infectious
whispers is replaceable with slowdown perk of your choice (corrupt or pop)
enduring is replaceable with bam if you need it
another quick tip for billy is when theres a downed pallet you can easily zone them by faking a break or pushing them into a deadzone
i know about da zoning pallets i watched tofus 1 hour guide on him a good 4 times.
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@XyoulamX said:
Iβve played billy a lot for the past few weeks and I think this is a pretty good build for him:
BBQ and Chili, nurses calling, surveillance and Ruin. Even tho nurses calling is replaceable on him, itβs still a good perk to use on any killer. If you have undying, you can use that instead of nurses calling because the ruin/undying combo is extremely powerful at the moment.
i think i would rather replace surveillance with undying and keep nurses but i will take your word for it.
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ok but hear me out replace rules set with the new amandas letter and keep current amandas letter as it is so fun to use. Besides that i love it but i feel like the face mask has nothing to do with ambushes. Maybe what you made utility blades is what face mask could be and utility blades could make ambush attacks make people injured and give the deep wound timer. If they dont mend in time they will go into the dying state. If they are already injured it will just put them into the dying state like normal though. Anyway ilove nd support this post with all the authority invested in me as a pig main. lol
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@Xbob42 said:
How about if someone has a RBT they don't hear the ambush roar? Not a massive change, but a little more pressure to get the trap off in a timely manner.
ok but hear me out an add-on named Silent Snoot that makes it so the roar is just non existent
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@RaSavage42 said:
I agree with @PigMainClaudette She needs her addons to work for her
Maybe have the skillcheck addons make the check smaller (but I doubt it)
No Rule set No. 2 Basekit...
Have more Ambush addons (either crouching/uncrouching and Dash)
i more wanted rules set basekit so we can get a better ultra rare BUT NEVER REMOVE AMANDAS LETTER IT IS SOOOOOOO FUNNNN
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@Darkskies said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1632678#Comment_1632678
BTW @PigMainClaudette and @JpLegion look bhrv we are so wholesome and totally deserve buffs (this is the part where you roar dash and be cute) so adorable ... π·π―ππ½
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If you really think about it we all have a little bit of pig inside of usπ·ππ½ο»Ώ
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@MusicNerd_TC said:
God damn it, the pig mains are so wholesome, I love it when they use emotes like this π½ππ·.
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@Darkskies said:
When pig is booped by a surivior all other survivors are exposed for 60s..
Jokes yeah add on rework please but please don't effect how she plays with cool downs etc and actually make her head traps scary!
The amount of suriviors I see doing gens with a trap on is unreal. Make them fear the pig again. Please thank you.
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or give her add-ons that increase time the ambush attack lasts or better combat straps or something that makes it so they dont always get it off on the first box or one that makes her faster while crouched
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@TAG said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/discussion/comment/1624456#Comment_1624456
I think all four of them suck, but Mangled sucks slightly less than the other three.
agreed
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@KingFrost said:
The problem with Pig is that while she has three powers, they're all very underwhelming. I'm sure she gets a decent number of kills, partly because survivors don't face her that often and don't know how to deal with her. I'll often find survivors working on generators with a trap on their head. That makes them easy to down later. But if you look at how long it takes her to get her first down, you'll see why she's underpowered.
Her first power is her stealth. The upside is that she has no terror radius (similar to Ghostface, Wraith, Tier 1 Myers, and Deathslinger). But her natural terror radius is 32 Meters, and she moves slower than Nurse when crouched. Like most stealth, hers is countered hard by Spine Chill, but Pig can't as easily avoid spine chill like Wraith can. She has some of the weakest stealth in the game because her terror radius is a normal 32 meter terror radius, and she's just too slow while in stealth.
Her second power is her ambush attack. This is her looping power, and as far as Anti-Loop goes, its among the weakest in the game. Against a good survivor, it won't do much if anything. The only real positive thing about her ambush attack is that it doesn't count as a STBFL attack, allowing her to conserve stacks against the Obsession. The cooldown on a missed attack is pretty rough, too.
Then her final, and arguably primary, power is the Reverse Bear Trap. This is a slowdown ability. There's three things bad about this power though: #1. You have to down someone before you can even use it, and Pig doesn't have much to help her get downs other than being a basic M1 Killer. Her stealth can help a little, but not a lot. #2. It stops working entirely once all the gens are done. Meaning if you struggle to get any downs before the last gen pops, Pig is limited to her two powers (much like Freddy). Now, it definitely has the potential to be as strong as Freddy's teleport. But that ties into Problem #3 which is... it's heavily RNG reliant. That makes it very swingy. Some games you'll do well, and it'll waste a lot of the survivors time. And in other games they'll get their traps off at the first or second box. It's the least reliable power in the game.
Overall, she's an amazingly fun character to play as, but her powers are a bit too weak. Then you have her add-ons, which just don't make sense and you get a character who's pretty much bottom tier in terms of going against good survivors. She's just not reliable. Her power could buy you 150 seconds per survivor, or it can only buy you 20 seconds. And in order to even use that power, she has to down people, which she has little help as far as her power goes. Her power just requires way more work, and can potentially do a lot less than other powers. I think all of her powers need some buffs to make her what she can be. (Not necessarily a full re-work, but some nice buffs like Leatherface got)
I agree 100% with you. I miss old endgame piggy and she needs a complete add-on rework
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I always forget to break pallets when they drop them i mind game get a hit or down and hook then forget to break the pallet and they use it again in a later chase
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@PigMainClaudette said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/discussion/comment/1624372#Comment_1624372
I think that half the status effect add-ons should shift to Ambush.
Let's be real, who cared about HEMMORHAGE or BLINDNESS on an RBT? Hell, even Exhausted is a joke on there! The only status one somewhat care about using on the traps is actually Mangled, but even that is a double-edged sword. They'll either waste more time healing, and I do mean WASTE. Or they just won't care in the slightest.
i actually like the face mask and agree with the mangled but the others suck.
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@SCP_FOR_DBD said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/discussion/comment/1624371#Comment_1624371
What can I say? I have too much free time lmao.
lol
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@MusicNerd_TC said:
I'd like to see more dash add-ons and not only RBT add-ons. Most of her add-ons are gimmicks, or useless RBT add-ons.
Exactly what i want.
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@SCP_FOR_DBD said:
Rejoice my friends
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/PWQFPU1WRWRE/screenshot-2020-09-15-at-5-10-47-pm.png
Its only a matter of time.
Edit: Just realized that someone already posted the image, my B.
yah just saw that lol i see you on like every post i swear
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@WTBacon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/188603/pig-add-on-change-pwease
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1613960#Comment_1613960
Rules Set No.2 basekit is a bad idea.
The main point of Reverse Bear Traps is to stop survivors from doing gens. The reason why they have the ability to kill is so the survivors are forced to remove it, which means they are forced to waste time. If the survivors do not see Jigsaw Box auras, they will just repair the gens instead. This means they are no longer stopping gen repair, which is bad for you.
While making this basekit would potentially help you get more Game Overs, that change would hurt Piggy's slowdown.
I know thats the first one i put but my main thing is the other add-ons. there are too many trap add-ons and not enough to do with ambush stealth and crouch. I would rather have rules set no.2 completely removed and replaced with something that maker her traps key in the 3rd or 4th box everytime.
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@Elena said:
Convenient that you made this thread because look what Almo said to me the other day:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/EE7OBGTLS3B9/image.png
Hopefully some of the add-on changes are what you wanted.
oh wow thx for showing me this im actuially really hopeful now
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@StarLost said:
Honestly, as someone who keeps trying to get into Pig, it feels like she needs some love from the devs.
No idea what form that should take, but...yeah.
i think the form would be more add-ons to do with her crouch stealth and ambush.
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@OxiTape said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1613306#Comment_1613306
Babadook sounds interesting but I'm not sure how that would translate into the game, specifically what would his power be?
exactly there arent many ideas for his power
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@Timeman63 said:
I want to revitalize this thread a little but, but have too much to say here. I made a post talking in length about her add-ons and how I would buff/redesign them.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/189576/pig-add-on-pass-ideas
In short, I actually think her power is serviceable, but her lack of reliable/good add-ons really hurts her.
Exactly too many trap add-ons the add-ons need to be crouch and ambush focused. The power is perfectly fine.
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Springtrap because
- Survivor would have cool cosmetics
- the map will be AMAZING
- He is just really cool
- Pinhead, Pennywise, or Babadook if it cant be springtrap
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@KeredDog said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1611287#Comment_1611287
Yeah bro you're a loser if you don't think camping is toxic. Probably a camper yourself so you're tryna defend that, just get good man. Just a stupid and unfun play style for both killers and survivors, annoying as #########.
why does he need to get good you cant even save somebody that's in the basement
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@PigMainClaudette said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1599212#Comment_1599212
I have destroyed teams of 2 reds, a purple and a green before as a rank 16, but I am als I assuming they are solo.
Co-ordinated SWF will still screw over a Pig pretty hard.
I also think that Pig solves a lot of the "Secind Chance Meta" problems of today, but In dkn't see anyone else talking about that.
yah only times i get less than 3 kills are SWF but ive also seen a SWF were 1 kid was good and the rest were rank 20 he probably just got them into the game and they were trash did a full squad wipe in like 3 minutes lol
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@PigMainClaudette said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1599180#Comment_1599180
I should also mention that my killer rank did slide down dramatically lately due to several games and WORK demanding my attention, so I get easy slaughters at lower ranks.
I do alao play differently to a lot of killers, focusing more on generator defence than straight kills.
oh because i have been playing red ranks since i was rank 20 only maybe 3 matches they were worse than green rank. Im currently a purple rank and face all rank 1's and 2's. I almost never get worse than a 3K but i dont only play pig. I also play Huntress Plague Freddy and Legion ALOT. Before i strictly played Pig but got fed up of having so little Ambush and crouch add-ons that i started playing a more diverse range of killers. Im thinking of playing more Bubba and Trapper because i have played them both after leveling them and loved them. I should mention that i started playing around February or March 2020 took a break from the game from June 3rd to August 2nd so i slipped from rank 9 to 20 again and now im back to rank 8. I am fairly new to the game but since the beginning i have watched Tofu's and Scorpionz's streams every time they streamed all the way through and have gotten great at killer.
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Pennywise because there is alot of things they could do for the power
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why then everybody would deselect everybody but wraith and clown
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@PigMainClaudette said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1599049#Comment_1599049
Ruin, Surveillance, Nurse's, BBq. Same since pre-Ruin rework. Preferred add-ons are the Dash ones.
ok i will try your build but i used ruin before and used sloppy over corrupt and ruin got broke in 15 seconds-1 minute so i was always left with 3 perks and with your build your pretty much down to 2 perks because surveillance really isnt very good by itself as the only thing i like of it by itself is the louder gens but that isnt good enough for a whole perk slot but i will try it
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@PigMainClaudette said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1598958#Comment_1598958
Disagree about Surveillance. The fact that it gives you easier and further detection of repair noises is actually makes the perk much better than a lot of people give it credit for.
As for the OP, I've made it to purple with her with a bit of trial, error and more importantly, practice. You can't think of Pig as anywhere near the same type of play as other killers. Forcing survivors off generators and keeping them locked down is priority. Hooks and RBT's are nice, but not something you should risk generators for.
If you have concerns about survivors quickly getting RBT's off, then the Gears add-ons should be something to look into.
Yah But there is better gen perks than surveillance to run especially on pig and though both are good make your choice is better on alot of killers(Mostly high mobility killers)Also quick question what's your build because this is the 2nd discussion I've seen you on,mine is BBQ Nurses Pop and Corrupt.
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@whimsicaljoss said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1598226#Comment_1598226
If the addons were redone I'd certainly reconsider. I still think Make your Choice and Hangman's trick are severely lacking. I tried them once or twice and then quickly replaced them with more reliable options.
Make Your choice is a great perk but Hangmans Trick is horrible. You did say your fairly new so you probably don't have alot of teachables so what I'm gonna say is upgrade some other killers and get some perks then come back to pig then she will be great. I dont know if your willing to buy other DLC's to get perks but if you are you should get BBQ & Chili, Nurses Calling, PGTW, and Corrupt Intervention or STBFL. All great perks on pig. I agree that the addons are fine but don't go off a killer based on their perks to decide if your gonna play them because you should look at powers that suit you best and play with them and upgrade other killers for Bloodpoints and since you are fairly new you should look in the shrine of secrets every week to see if there is a perk you want there. But Make Your Choice is a better Perk with Surveillance unless you run Surveillance with Ruin but if Ruin gets broken your just left with an eh perk.
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As a pig main I think her power is fine and should stay as is. BUT THE ADDONS SHOULD BE REDONE. Only power change i would make is Rules set no.2 being basekit. But the Add-ons should be trap focused they should be crouching and ambush related. I dont see her power as the traps I see it as the Ambush and I think there should be a couple of trap add-ons but mostly Ambush and crouch Add-ons.
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@JinSime said:
She REALLY needs a rework. I basically always use the same combination of VT + Combat Straps, unless I have enough add ons like Tampered Timer + Rule Set 2 or the ones that grant me 2 more boxes (that sometimes pay off). If I don't have the VT, I use the one that grants me one more trap... but that's it. Besides the one that blinds the survivor, the other add ons are pretty much useless, unless I hard tunnel the trapped ones, what is not a fun play.
I wish she had some status effects with her ambush, like other killers (something to cause the mangled status, exausted or something like that). And maybe that we had at least 1 more box by default.
yah i think BHVR should completely redo her power and add-ons but this time focus on the ambush instead of traps
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dragons breath isnt bad though it will be great with pop on freddy
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@KingFrost said:
I thought Scorpionz made some good points about how too many add-ons affect Pig's traps, and not enough add-ons affect the rest of her skill set. The rest of her skill set is entirely ignored in favor of those boxes. Of which, she only has four! And in order to even get use of those, you have to get survivors down in the first place. Which those add-ons don't assist with in the least.
A lot of those encourage Pig to play the nastiest way possible (going after survivors with an RBT on their head). Instead, I think add-ons should definitely focus more on her other skills. How fast she moves while crouched, how long her dash attack lasts. (This is also why I think her dash attack should last a little longer. It's pretty good right now, but it's also INCREDIBLY hard to hit with sometimes. I've got some pretty nasty hits with it. But the reward is kind of small for how hard it is to do. Which is why I propose making it easier by making the dash attack last longer. Maybe enough to even make it semi-usable for mobility.)
im thinking of making another post tomorrow where i will look at every add-on and maybe replace and remove or change it or for some leave alone because she has alot of add-ons which are just a waste of blood points unlocking.
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@PigMainClaudette said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1597833#Comment_1597833
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/171989/ideas-for-reworking-pigs-add-ons
Here ya go! Things to note are that I have been playing since Darkness Among Us, and while my highest rank was 8 one season, it is purely to lack of devotion to killer. I'm also constantly in red ranks on survivor, so this is in a way both as an experienced Pig and what would scare me as a survivor.
i love the changes that you made but i'd still want rules set no.2 basekit which would be easier with the current version and i want something like iridescent creation because they always get the trap off on the 1st box. plus silent snoot because the roar makes me miss my ambushes as they hear that and vault a window or just run. i miss 50% of ambushes without videotape and or medical file.
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@WTBacon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1597923#Comment_1597923
This is a bug report, in the bug report forum.
Why are you leaving comments like this?
oh my bad new to the forum so i didnt know
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so just dont use calm spirit
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Pinhead
PennyWise
Babadook
Cari
and an original character that is a Viking
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@Exerlin said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1597624#Comment_1597624
oh #########, whatever perk blocks pallets after a hit for a bit. Blood Favour, mb
yah blood favor
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@PigMainClaudette said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1597762#Comment_1597762
I think that her traps are fine and Pig is an add-on pass and a few number tweaks away from being ine of the best killers in the game.
I did also do a full post about how I'd change most of these add-ons and even saying that the skill checks for the boxes should be replaced with the Doctor's Madness checks.
can u send a link to the post i would very much like to read it
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@PigMainClaudette said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1597738#Comment_1597738
Bat that is the exact opposite of what you want as Pig! Those RBT kills are both exceptionally rare, and costly. Not to mention that they're one of the few truly effective methods of slowing the game and avoiding Decisive Strike.
I'd rather see RS.2 work just like the original RBT worked in SAW, the first one, it activates when they get off hook in the same manner that Amanda's trap activated after she got off that chair.
The traps may need a rework now that im thinking about it. Personally, i use pig for her Dash Attacks not Traps so i dont normally run any Trap add-ons except for the occasional Rules set no.2 and TT. Normally i use Amanda's letter and Video Tape but just anything that is a ambush add-on most of the time(not always though)
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ya i agree with you i don't know what that cheryl was on but whatever it was it was alot of it
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@PigMainClaudette said:
No RS.2 base kit. It will force survivoes towards generators.
Hey just need to make the boxes harder for the box add-ons to actually work. As it stands, basic skill-checks with no modifiers allowed are too easy to hit and the existence of the Great result is a further detriment.
so i force them to gens they with it basekit they get the gen activate the trap and go to another gen but they die from the trap so i trade a gen for a kill(yes i know traps are for pressure not kills)
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@The_Krapper said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1597624#Comment_1597624
It's not a hex and it's probably the best perk that comes with the new chapter
yah it will be great with Pop