We need a different kind of endurance when being unhooked
Currently survivors get 15 seconds of haste and endurance when they're unhooked, this to prevent some kind of tunneling directly off hook, but there are many killers that can bypass this easily, especially range killers.
Survivor gets unhooked, Huntress, Dracula, Pyramid Head, etc can just M2 to insta M1 to down the survivor. Making this anti tunneling changes useless.
So survivors should get the haste and a new effect that can get only by being unhooked that makes them intangible to any kind of weapon and character, so that way they don't get insta downed and can't body block either. This also makes perks like DH and off the record not being to neglected (there's a ton of killers that apply deep wound easily so these perks are not as strong as many people think).
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None of the ones you mentioned have the ability to instantly take down with an M1 with anti tunnel feature
Nor can killers like Kaneki, Oni, or Deathslinger ignore the anti-tunnel.
To me, your post is just another survivor whine. Are you expecting Behavior to give weapons to survivors and killers to build generators? Just bring an anti-tunnel build and problem solved...
The act of "tunneling" is also a form of strategy for killers; if the killer needs to eliminate a survivor as quickly as possible because they are one or two generators away from being depleted, they need to put pressure on the survivors to turn the tide in their favor.
"strategy". Much "strategy" in doing the easiest way possible. It is a No-Brainer to tunnel if you want to win as Killer, an actual strategy would be to weight risk and rewards to decide on something.
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I agree. Even tho I would maybe only differentiate between Deep Wound given by Killers (e.g. Legion or Ghoul) and Deep Wound given by Endurance (Unhook-Endurance, DH, OTR). Because this way you could tinker with one of them without affecting the others.
On the other hand it would make the Endurance of OTR more meaningful, since currently it is basically non-existent since one hit right after the Unhook removes all Endurance which is given.
Wouldn't need any god mode protection if my teammate didn't mindlessly dive my hook when the killer hasn't even walked 20 meters away yet.
The issue is (and this is also why Basekit Endurance after an Unhook exists in the first place) that you cannot choose your teammates. Obviously it is not the Killers or the hooked Survivors fault when some muppet decides to unhook the hooked Survivor in the Killers face, but sadly there is not much which can be done about that.
I would say remove collision and hitbox on unhook, but cut the time down by half once all generators are powered.
Survivor goes I to basement to unhook -> killer follows cuz why wouldn't they -> downs the unhooker -> unhooked survivor is in god mode but has a flashlight -> killer can't pick up cuz flashlight -> downed survivor picks themselves up with that perk from Michonne and endurance from that Cheryl perk -> guess killer should've played around it
In short, does tunneling need adjustment? Idk, maybe? I would prefer spreading hooks to be beneficial first and then maybe adjust tunneling. Does tunneling need your style of adjustment? Hell no, why would you even think an actual god mode no matter the conditions should be in the game
Okay, easy solution, they can't use items while in this hypothetical mode. Seriously if that's your only reason to be against this idea then problem solved.
Lol, bait used to be better.
Killers can just camp, feel like people forget the fact that the anti-camp doesn't really work.
I will literally die if they buff anti-camp any more its so risky to hook in a 3 gen because if a survivor takes chase next to the hook and they're already 30% progress they will get anti-camp
Also tunneling with Pyramid Head and Dracula is extremely problematic as the unhooking survivor cannot take a hit unless they want to go down in which case the killer can just slug and go for the freshly unhooked survivor with no endurance. I disagree with Huntress tho because she only hits one survivor.
"Killers that can easily give you deep wound"
You also cannot choose your killer, and many will hard proxy camp the hook in order to force literally all unhooks to be this exact situation. Especially on all the maps with godawful designs that have only one or two ways in, which many killers can lock down.
True. But there is a big difference between making an Unhook when you have to because the person on the Hook is being camped and about to reach second stage and doing an unhook 3 seconds after the Survivor was hooked while the Killer is still there.
The first would need to happen even without any form of protection after the Unhook, the latter is mostly the Survivor being stupid to unhook right away.
Of course it's not my only issue with god mode, this was a hypothetical first idea I got after imagining what a change like that would be in an actual game.
My bigger issue with the whole idea of buffing anti tunnel even more, is that it was recently already omega buffed to braindead 15 seconds, if one needs EVEN MORE, that's saying a lot.
And in general, a godmode of any kind is an absolute no go, that's robbing killer of any agency, even if for 15 seconds.
And the examples of Yoshirama, I am sorry, is the action of unhooking supposed to be omega safe for the unhooked? Why should they be so Uber safe by default? That sounds stupid for an assymetrical game
It's not any more brain dead tunneling which is already a basekit thing killers can do. Camping, tunneling, and slugging all remove survivor agency for far longer than 15 seconds and have far less counterplay than count to 15. Do you support removing that as well or is this a my side deserves special favors kinda deal?
"Tunneling which is already a basekit thing killers can do"
Damn, killers can kill survivors, what a discovery.
Sorry but if you think camping/slugging/tunneling completely removes survivor agency, with plenty things survivors can do to reduce how effective it is, I don't think you can be convinced really
Just using your argument, should survivor be unable to repair gens under certain conditions? I mean, it's same thing really, it's basekit thing they can do
Oh wow, please enlighten the community about all the things survivors can do while hooked and the killers camping. How about against a bubba who tunnels you off hook? Seriously, go on I can't wait to hear your response.
Well, maybe if you ask nicely, I would consider sharing the secret info