It’s finally happened

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  • He is always come back ;) Plus Matthew Lillard skin and voice lines

  • I saw the map is probably going to be located within the Withered Isle realm (looked very similar to Greenville)

  • @THE_Crazy_Hyena said:

    I saw the map is probably going to be located within the Withered Isle realm (looked very similar to Greenville)

    Most likely + no survivor

  • sadly no Michael Afton

    But the next 2 characters added will be 2 licensed survivors

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    Animatronic Legendary portrayed (which is to say, voiced) by Matthew Lillard himself.

  • @GentlemanFridge said:

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/LPC2U4G8LXLH/image.png

    Animatronic Legendary portrayed (which is to say, voiced) by Matthew Lillard himself.

    now can we get that Scooby doo license now?

  • Some more screencaps from the map:

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    It seems to be in the Withered Isle realm.

    Also, ignore the ads in the top left. Those were part of the stream.

  • So excited for this! It's surreal to see the model and map after all the fan works. I was really hoping for Mike, but this is just fine too! Looking forward to the proper showcase in a couple weeks!

  • A lot of child coming to make this game a new Fortnite and down the servers of course. Whos next?

  • Can’t wait for characters from poppy’s playtime to be added next or maybe granny or piggy

  • A tad disappointed we're not getting Michael/Henry/Vanessa/Charlie (3 of which all have actual artwork to pull from, and Charlie would especially be unique as our first robotic Survivor), but I understand not having a Survivor for this one. Michael's the most obvious choice and he spends most of the games as a walking corpse with nothing but an 8-bit figure or a reflection of Rick Astley to go off of, and the others are mostly relegated to the books or are Vanessa, who might tentatively work better as a Legendary for Afton in her possessed? Vanny "form".

    And I get to cross another of my most wanteds of my list, and it even comes with a map. So regardless, I'm pretty happy.

  • @Ricardo170373 said:

    A lot of child coming to make this game a new Fortnite and down the servers of course. Whos next?

    you do realize all those “children” are all in there 20s now and aren’t children anymore?
    plus this is good now people aren’t going to ask for FNAF anymore cause we got it

  • @HireRealProgrammers said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3924414#Comment_3924414

    All these 20 year olds you're talking about are still children. They never grown up playing real horror games.

    For all my issues with the property, this seems rather reductive.

  • @THE_Crazy_Hyena said:

    I saw the map is probably going to be located within the Withered Isle realm (looked very similar to Greenville)

    It's exactly how I've imagined the map when having discussions about it. Plopping the Pizzeria down in the middle of the woods in Withered Isle so you don't have to cram everything inside the building. Though I hope it is a very large building with two or three generators inside so there's plenty of reason to run through it.

  • I haven't done a deep dive as I'm at work, but all I want out of this chapter is a good new indoor level.

    Plz tell me this is a Greenville with a super huge main building. I need some Lerys competition.

  • @Chilli_man2400 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3924389#Comment_3924389

    you do realize all those “children” are all in there 20s now and aren’t children anymore?
    plus this is good now people aren’t going to ask for FNAF anymore cause we got it

    This^ When it was DnD and Castlevania, nobody batted an eye at media targeted towards children being included. One could argue their older status as 80's media implies a naturally older fanbase, which is accurate I would say, but to imply that FNAF's adult audience is just blatantly non-existent, or that children don't play DnD or Castlevania today, is just people bending reality to fit the stigma they wanna attach to others. I was 8 years old when I got into Fnaf originally, I'm 19 now, the bar really isn't that high for us to exist.

    If this was actually about the behavior and sometimes actual childish actions of the FNAF community, I feel like there might ground to cover; but honestly, you could make the most polite, respectful comment or discussion relating to FNAF and still get bombarded by dislikes and hateful replies. It just feels like people use the excuse that FNAF fans were admittedly annoying in the past around the time of Hellraiser to be just as annoying as they were then.

    When it comes to politics, that's a different discussion where I'd say the criticism is a lot more warranted. But the people saying "time for all the kids to take over" need to seriously ease up a bit.

  • I'm going to be honest, FNAF fans on the DbD community were so annoying on the past 5 years that just because of that I had hoped they were never going to get what they wanted. Remember when they kept insisting Springtrap was going to be released all the way back in 2021, even though all the clues and teasers left by the devs pointed to Hellraiser, which FNAF fans kept saying were all "red herrings" (They kept saying letters forming the word HELLRAISER were a red herring, ff sake…)? Remember how much they complained when Pinhead got confirmed, even though it was obvious? Remember how they kept complaining about any other licensed chapter on the following years because it wasn't FNAF, even those that came with way bigger horror icons, like Chucky? It's incorrect to say FNAF fans are "children", but that repetitive behavior was childish, to say the least.

    But leaving that aside and trying to be more rational about it, I think this license will be good for DbD. It's a popular franchise that can bring a bunch of new players, afterall. I still have one problem with it, related to certain donations the creator of the IP likes to make, but that's a whole other discussion…

  • @Malkhrim said:

    I'm going to be honest, FNAF fans on the DbD community were so annoying on the past 5 years that just because of that I had hoped they were never going to get what they wanted. Remember when they kept insisting Springtrap was going to be released all the way back in 2021, even though all the clues and teasers left by the devs pointed to Hellraiser, which FNAF fans kept saying were all "red herrings" (They kept saying letters forming the word HELLRAISER were a red herring, ff sake…)? Remember how much they complained when Pinhead got confirmed, even though it was obvious? Remember how they kept complaining about any other licensed chapter on the following years because it wasn't FNAF, even those that came with way bigger horror icons, like Chucky? It's incorrect to say FNAF fans are "children", but that repetitive behavior was childish, to say the least.

    But leaving that aside and trying to be more rational about it, I think this license will be good for DbD. It's a popular franchise that can bring a bunch of new players, afterall. I still have one problem with it, related to certain donations the creator of the IP likes to make, but that's a whole other discussion…

    I'm gonna preface this by saying I'm 100% down for a Supernatural chapter, but damn if I wasn't getting FNAF/Hellraiser flashbacks last night after the stream. The roadmap literally spelling out "the ones who live" (a literal Walking Dead show featuring two of the main stars, who also joined Fortnite not long ago) and yet SPN fans were insisting the survivor chapter has to be Supernatural. It's gonna be like this until the chapter reveal lol

  • @Nazzzak said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3924807#Comment_3924807

    I'm gonna preface this by saying I'm 100% down for a Supernatural chapter, but damn if I wasn't getting FNAF/Hellraiser flashbacks last night after the stream. The roadmap literally spelling out "the ones who live" (a literal Walking Dead show featuring two of the main stars, who also joined Fortnite not long ago) and yet SPN fans were insisting the survivor chapter has to be Supernatural. It's gonna be like this until the chapter reveal lol

    I saw some people commenting about Supernatural by the end of the stream, but are they still at that? 😂 This is funny because, okay, maybe at the time it COULD be interpreted as Supernatural, because people hadn't realized the clues at the worldmap and people were looking for something at anything the devs had said during the stream, and they naturally said "supernatural" a couple of times because, yeah, there are a lot of supernatural stuff in DbD... but come on, to keep saying that AFTER the actual clues were found? The letters literally formed the name of the newest TWD show! That indeed gives Hellraiser/FNAF flashbacks, lol.

  • @Ace_Main said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/444805/it-s-finally-happened

    FNAF fans really think a haunted Chuck E. Cheese simulator belongs in Dead by Daylight. Bro, Freddy Fazbear gets clapped by a security door. Meanwhile, my guy The Blight is out here folding survivors at Mach 3. Stay in the pizzeria.

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3924387#Comment_3924387

    Dead by Daylight has killers with tragic lore, deep stories, and complex abilities. FNAF has... a bear with a soundboard. I'll pass.

    "If this was actually about the behavior and sometimes actual childish actions of the FNAF community, I feel like there might ground to cover; but honestly, you could make the most polite, respectful comment or discussion relating to FNAF and still get bombarded by dislikes and hateful replies."

    Like, honestly y'all's tends to blend together after awhile but there's something undeniably funny about this reply in particular cause tbh I'm not even sure you play DBD after reading it.

    "DBD has killers with tragic lore and deep stories," Freddy Fazbear is a murdered 6 year old, tragedy is this characters reason for existence. "DBD has killers with complex abilities," Springtrap is already confirmed to have a complicated multi ability. "FNAF has…a bear with a soundboard…I'll pass" so were you just not paying attention to Naughty Bear or is the hypocrisy intentional? Lmao.

  • @Ace_Main said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3924700#Comment_3924700

    Oh, please, spare me. Just because you were 8 years old when you first got into FNAF doesn't magically erase the fact that it’s been a major children’s franchise. It’s not about the age of the fanbase (though, let's not pretend FNAF didn't blow up with kids), it’s about the reputation it built in the gaming and horror communities, especially with the questionable decisions in the fanbase’s behavior. You want to argue that adults enjoy FNAF? Sure, I'll give you that — but let's not ignore the giant sea of cringey, overenthusiastic kids that constantly flood the community. The “adult audience” is definitely there, but let’s be real — the dominant voice of the fandom has always been teens and younger players who can't get enough of the "spooky animatronics" and jump scares.

    And yes, DnD and Castlevania are classics that had their roots in older, more mature themes, and they also didn't become the mainstream phenomenon they are today due to their mass appeal to kids. FNAF didn’t have that same kind of gravitas. I’m not bending reality to fit a narrative, I’m acknowledging the overwhelming influence of children’s media surrounding FNAF, and how it's shaped the entire thing.

    You think the FNAF community can be polite? Sure, there are some cool fans, but let’s not pretend there hasn’t been years of toxicity (and not just in the Hellraiser era, but well after) — the constant spamming of fan art, weird theories, and overhyped nonsense got old real fast. You’re literally defending a community that's infamous for making anything remotely critical about the franchise a target for harassment. Criticism about FNAF? Yeah, get ready to get bombarded with a ton of angry preteens who think you're ruining their childhood. That’s not bending reality; that’s basic online experience with the fandom.

    As for “politics” — yeah, that’s a whole other mess, but I won’t even go there. It’s not just about who’s in the FNAF community, it’s about how the fandom responds to criticism and how that reflects on the franchise as a whole. So maybe ease up on pretending the past behavior of the FNAF community doesn’t still linger today.

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3925052#Comment_3925052

    Oh, so now we’re playing the “FNAF is deep too!” card? Sure, Freddy Fazbear is a murdered 6-year-old — but FNAF’s lore is a confusing mess of time jumps, endless fan theories, and inconsistencies that no one can fully explain. You can throw tragic backstories all day, but at the end of the day, the FNAF timeline is a nightmare of retcons and fan-made explanations that don’t actually make sense. DBD, on the other hand, is consistent, and each killer has a clear, focused story with psychological depth that fits the horror tone. So yeah, don’t try to pretend FNAF’s tragic lore stacks up next to killers like The Trapper or The Nurse when it’s buried under layers of confusion.

    As for Springtrap’s "multi-ability", let’s not pretend like that’s some groundbreaking revelation. DBD already has killers with far more complex abilities, and Springtrap just slots in with a few more gimmicks. Really, if you think a character that jumps around with a couple extra powers is somehow setting the world on fire, then you’ve clearly never seen DBD’s roster and the crazy unique powers some of those killers have. The only thing Springtrap is bringing to the table is some cheap nostalgia and a handful of new tricks. That’s it.

    And Naughty Bear? Really? Now you’re comparing DBD’s unique killers to a comedy game with a bear running around doing random stuff? Nice try, but Naughty Bear is as relevant as a broken VHS tape at a flea market. Sure, FNAF has soundboards, but don’t act like that’s somehow comparable to the actual terror DBD invokes with its killers. The FNAF animatronics are cheap thrills; DBD killers are nightmares you can’t escape, no matter how many sound clips you spam.

    So, yeah, the hypocrisy isn’t lost on me. Maybe FNAF fans should evolve beyond "Oh, it's just a bear with a soundboard," and realize that DBD has far more to offer in terms of horror and depth than animatronics that go boop boop beep.

    Preparing this in the seven minutes it took from my last comment is certainly something lmao, but honestly there's literally nothing in this post of substance.

    Like bro, this is all just a fancy way of still saying "WHAT YOU LIKE IS BAD!!" and "WHAT I LIKE IS GOOD!!" and since literally everything in this comment isn't even based on logic, rather just saying "if you think FNAF isn't cringe or at the level of other horror" blah blah commonly regurgitated stigma about the series.

    Genuinely, idk if you wrote that in advance just cause my opinion hurt you so much, but I'm just saying only one of us is getting a killer and map in a couple weeks, and quite literally, half of your points are wrong due to the Collab we are looking at right now due to its Adult nature lmao.

    "Naughty Bear? Really? Now you’re comparing DBD’s unique killers to a comedy game with a bear running around doing random stuff? Nice try, but Naughty Bear is as relevant as a broken VHS tape at a flea market. " Stuff in DBD, isn't relevant to DBD? Y'all will say anythinggggggfff

  • @Ace_Main said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3925060#Comment_3925060

    Oh, so now I’m the one who’s “sensitive” because my opinion hurt you? Cute. But seriously, let’s break this down, because there’s a lot going on here.

    First off, it’s not just about "what you like is bad and what I like is good." That's a lazy way to dismiss a discussion that actually has substance, even if you don’t like the points being made. I’m pointing out that FNAF's place in horror has been historically tainted by its obsession with jump scares and a very vocal, young fanbase that somehow took over the discourse. That’s not a stigma, it’s just basic facts — the series started as a “spooky” game that kids latched onto because it was flashy and easily consumable. The “adult nature” of the new Springtrap chapter doesn’t magically erase years of the franchise being a kids' phenomenon. It’s nice that you’re finally getting some "adult" representation, but it’s a little too late to claim FNAF is all grown up now. The damage was done long before this collab happened.

    And I love the projection here, like, “You wrote this in advance because my opinion hurt you!” Nah, I’m not the one scrambling to defend FNAF every time someone dares to call it what it is. The fact that you’re so eager to brush off criticism of the series with “we’re getting a killer and a map” shows a complete lack of understanding of the broader conversation. That’s not an argument. It’s like saying, “I’m right because I get a prize.” Cute, but let’s focus on substance over shiny objects. The “adult nature” of the collab doesn’t magically fix the brand’s overall image that was built around kids.

    Now, let’s talk about Naughty Bear — you’re seriously trying to take a comedic game about a bear doing random stuff and compare it to DBD’s killers, which are grounded in actual horror lore? That’s the comparison you choose? That’s a desperate reach, my friend. Yeah, maybe Naughty Bear is irrelevant now, but the point was to show that FNAF wasn’t the first horror character with quirky behavior and a meme-worthy persona. So, the “FNAF is unique!” argument falls flat when you realize this has been done before, and done better by other franchises.

    As for the teenage fanbase — I wasn’t bashing kids enjoying FNAF. I’m pointing out that the majority of the fandom has been young, loud, and often cringe-worthy, which has shaped the series’ reputation. Don’t even try to argue that it’s been all “mature fans” when FNAF’s meme culture is so inextricably linked to a younger audience. You can’t just ignore that and act like it's all grown-ups now. The history is clear: kids played it, kids made it explode, and kids dominated the discourse for years. Sorry if that’s inconvenient for you, but it doesn’t just disappear because of one killer and map.

    At the end of the day, it’s not about “hurting feelings.” It’s about being realistic about where the franchise stands and calling out the flaws that have kept it from being taken seriously in the wider horror community. So keep pretending it’s all “adults now” if it makes you feel better, but I’m not buying it.

    To start. You wrote this post in 4 minutes, which is 240 seconds and this comment has 535 words. I think I struck a nerve, and I think you'll be happy to report I spent less time paying attention to each letter than you did typing them.

    "So keep pretending it’s all “adults now” if it makes you feel better, but I’m not buying it." Lmao I never said that. I said nonFnaf fans have a tendency to single out people and insult them for no reason whilst being just as annoying as the ones that were annoying in the FNAF community. You not only did you not respond to that comment initially, you instead went after the one where I simply said I was excited about the chapter, which basically proved my point the moment you tried to pull this superiority complex out on me.

  • @Ace_Main said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3925063#Comment_3925063

    Oh, look at that — another diversion and a whole lot of deflection. Nice try. You’re right, I did type a lot, but at least I’m actually engaging with the points rather than trying to dance around the conversation. It’s cute you’re trying to downplay the time I spent crafting a response, but here’s the thing: It’s not about how long I spent writing. It’s about the fact that you’re trying to downplay a real discussion with sarcastic quips and some random word count analysis. That’s the level we’re at, huh?

    And oh, now you’re pulling the "I never said that" card. Classic move. But come on, you said exactly what you meant. You did argue the "adult nature" of the collab as if that’s the sole argument that negates everything people have said about FNAF’s history. That’s not how it works. You can’t just conveniently ignore the series’ entire trajectory just because of one chapter.

    Now, back to your point about “non-FNAF fans” being just as annoying — I’m not sure why that even matters in this context. Just because some non-FNAF fans can be obnoxious doesn’t erase the fact that FNAF’s history has been overwhelmingly dominated by kids and immature behavior. You’re trying to position yourself as the rational voice of the FNAF fandom, but it sounds more like you’re just playing defense because someone dared to call out your precious franchise.

    And let's talk about that “superiority complex” accusation you threw in. You’re missing the point entirely. This is about the culture FNAF has built over the years. This isn’t just about you being excited for the chapter. You came at me with a defensive tone, throwing in unnecessary details about how long I spent responding — that just shows you’re more interested in trying to win an argument with petty distractions than engaging with the actual content.

    If you want to debate FNAF’s place in horror culture, fine, we can. But when you resort to sidestepping the actual discussion and attacking the person on the other side, that just proves that maybe you’re the one who’s uncomfortable with being called out. And let’s be real, that “excited for the chapter” comment is basically you trying to wrap everything in a shiny bow and act like the whole FNAF franchise is above reproach. It’s not.

    So, no, I’m not buying your line about “adults now” or “non-FNAF fans being just as annoying.” I’m still here, talking facts. So whenever you’re ready to actually respond to what I said instead of dodging and weaving, let’s get back to it.

    "The time I spent crafting a response" You didn't spend time on anything bro lmao

    This comment has 431 words, it was written within 180 seconds of my last post. You don't care what I have to say, and this isn't and never was a discussion. This was you insulting me cause "hurr durr FNAF bad" and now you're just letting your subconscious spew whatever faster than any reasonable human would have to spell check cause you're mad. So, stay mad lol I'm getting Springtrap in 3 weeks.

  • @Ace_Main said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3925067#Comment_3925067

    Ah, here we go again — just a constant stream of distractions and weak attempts at downplaying the substance of what’s being said. First off, nice try with the “word count analysis” but you’re missing the forest for the trees. The fact that you keep focusing on the speed of my response rather than the actual content of it just proves that you're scrambling to avoid the real points I’m making. Keep deflecting, it’s adorable.

    Let me break it down for you since you seem to be missing the point: this isn’t about how fast I typed, or how many words I managed to string together in a short amount of time. You’re deflecting because you know you’re not addressing the actual discussion. It’s clear that you're just upset because I pointed out some very real flaws in FNAF’s history, and instead of engaging with that, you're throwing in petty remarks about “hurr durr FNAF bad.” That’s not what I said, but nice try with the oversimplification to avoid facing the facts.

    And really, you’re going with the “I’m mad because I’m typing fast” thing? That’s the best you’ve got? If anything, it sounds like you’re projecting because I’m actually engaging with the conversation while you’re just here throwing around “I’m getting Springtrap in 3 weeks” like that somehow negates the valid criticisms of FNAF’s reputation. Spoiler alert: It doesn’t. The fact that you’re using a killer release date as some sort of comeback just shows how desperate you are to end this with some kind of victory, no matter how hollow it is.

    You can keep telling yourself "stay mad" all you want, but honestly, I’m not the one who’s avoiding the conversation. I’m not the one using distractions to sidestep the real issues at hand. If you actually cared about discussing the topic, you’d respond to the points I made instead of just attacking me personally.

    But hey, if “Springtrap in 3 weeks” is the only argument you’ve got left, then go ahead. I’ll be over here, still calling out the obvious flaws in your franchise while you chase after the next shiny object.

    So go ahead, “stay mad” — because I’ll be over here with the real conversation.

    The funniest thing is everything you accuse me of I have had extremely productive conversations about, you just seem to think acting like a 4 year old and insulting me constantly is the best way to get what you want. I'm not missing the 'forest for the trees' in a response from a guy who started his interaction with me by saying "FNAF fans really think a haunted Chuck E. Cheese simulator belongs in Dead by Daylight. Bro, Freddy Fazbear gets clapped by a security door. Meanwhile, my guy The Blight is out here folding survivors at Mach 3. Stay in the pizzeria"

    Like bro, you ain't a poet and this isn't a discussion. This was you insulting me, being mad I gave you pushback, and then just throwing a tidal wave of text at me cause you're mad. Just try this on a person in your day to day, say "stay in the pizzeria, you Chucky Cheese simulator toddler" and then "yeah no bro of course you don't submit to my superior reasoning and logic" after throwing 3 college assignments worth of text within 15 minutes.

    This is some peak DBD mentality right here.

  • @Ace_Main said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3925077#Comment_3925077

    I see we’re still circling the same drain. You're right, I started with a playful jab about "Chuck E. Cheese simulator" — which, let’s be honest, was an attempt at humor — but I didn’t think it would spiral into a multi-paragraph defense of your beloved FNAF. Yet here we are, with a whole dissertation that still hasn’t actually addressed any of the points I raised.

    You’re still fixating on the delivery instead of the content. Look, I get it — you don’t like being called out on the actual flaws in FNAF’s history. But instead of talking about how the franchise built its reputation — full of cringe-worthy moments and questionable decisions — you’re focusing on how quickly I typed and how many words I wrote. This is the equivalent of calling out someone's handwriting speed when they're pointing out the flaws in your argument. It’s cute, really, but it's not exactly the win you think it is.

    You’re also really hung up on me typing fast. Like, honestly, is that the best comeback you’ve got? I’m here trying to engage in actual discussion, and you’re still stuck on my pace of response. Sure, I may have fired off a quick response, but you’re more concerned with the speed than the fact that I’m actually engaging with the topic. And guess what? I’m not angry — I’m just calling out the flaws in the logic you keep trying to deflect from. If you actually wanted to debate, you’d tackle the issues, not deflect to word count or typing speed. But hey, keep up the deflection game. It’s working wonders.

    Also, nice flex on “Springtrap in 3 weeks,” but all I hear is “I’m hoping my favorite animatronic gets added into the game so I can ignore the criticisms that have been part of the franchise for years." You act like this killer release is some sort of mic drop. News flash: it doesn’t change the history of the franchise or the patterns that fans seem to ignore. So go ahead, keep clinging to the "I’ll get Springtrap soon!" line, but it’s not gonna erase the valid points I made about the series’ history or how it’s been handled in the gaming community.

    I get it, you’re excited about your new killer, but your personal excitement doesn’t invalidate the larger conversation. This isn’t about who's getting a new character. It’s about addressing the shortcomings, and if you don’t want to engage with that, then just say so. But throwing in distractions, deflecting, and focusing on everything except the discussion — that's the real "peak DBD mentality" right there.

    "You're excitement doesn't invalidate the larger conversation, like how I should be able to call you a child when you express joy in something and then you should consider me an intellectual equal and engage me in debate."

    Did I sum that up right? The issue with your "engage the discussion" type beat is that quite literally, I didn't ask for nor at any point wanted to debate this with you. You just seemed to think you could justify your rudeness by throwing text you thought up in a microsecond, and if you well and truly are wondering why I only respond to a sentence or so and keep ignoring the rest, it's because I'm literally not reading it.

    Do you see where we're at here? Do you see how I'm telling you this isn't a discussion? Do you see how this is just me meming while you write whatever this is?

  • @Ace_Main said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3925085#Comment_3925085

    So now we’re just memeing? Got it. Look, if you drop a comment that’s basically a call to arms for a debate, don’t be shocked when someone picks up the sword and starts swinging. You can’t casually toss in your opinion, throw in a little jab, and then expect people to just smile and nod like it’s all sunshine and rainbows.

    I get it, you didn’t ask for a debate. But here's the thing – if you toss a little thought grenade into the conversation, it's bound to go off. I wasn’t trying to pull a full-on intellectual heist, I just couldn’t help but engage with the spicy little morsel you threw out there.

    But sure, if you want to keep it light and just memeing, that’s fine. But don’t act surprised when someone’s not just laughing along but actually biting back with more than just a chuckle. If you're gonna "meme" your way through a discussion, you have to accept that some of us will treat it like the Olympics and show up with actual responses instead of just one-liners.

    Mate, please stop with this. Trying to educate other people on etiquette and whatever this faux niceness is trying to accomplish. Your first comment even beyond the 'jab' is just FNAF has bear, DBD has depth. Forgive me, but that wasn't really what I would call a thought grenade before the intellectual heist.

    "Look, if you drop a comment that’s basically a call to arms for a debate, don’t be shocked when someone picks up the sword and starts swinging." Can I quote you when I say "please spare me?" Since apparently that's an appropriate way to start a discussion.

    This wasn't a call to arms for a debate, and if this was F13 or Candyman or any other licence I guarantee you wouldn't have batted an eye at it. My point has been the same since my first reply to you and even the one serious comment I made in response to Op, which if you had just replied to in the beginning we probably actually could have discussed FNAF in a meaningful capacity. My point, condensed down to its most meaningful grievance, is that the annoying FNAF fan stereotype (which trust me I know there are a ton of them out there) is often applied to people who have to done nothing to warrant it.

    With all that in mind, can you see how me getting a comment that's mocking in nature in response to me literally just being excited about the chapter is inherently confirming my bias? Like, can you blame me for not taking this seriously after that? You gotta do a lot more than be insulting to elicit a discussion.

  • @Ace_Main said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3925100#Comment_3925100

    Alright, I see what you're trying to do here—throwing around that 'faux niceness' like it’s some kind of get-out-of-jail-free card. But let’s be real, your initial comment wasn’t a 'thought grenade.' It was a weak attempt at elevating FNAF by trying to undermine DBD with some half-baked comparison. 'FNAF has bears, DBD has depth'? Really? That’s the best you’ve got? If that’s what you’re calling an intellectual debate, I hate to break it to you, but you're out of your depth.

    Look, we all know FNAF has a certain charm for some people, but trying to make it out as some kind of deep, meaningful horror experience when it’s mostly just cheap jump scares and animatronics is, frankly, laughable. DBD has spent years developing complex mechanics, characters, and lore that actually contribute to its depth, and you’re here trying to act like they’re somehow on the same level? Please.

    And don’t act like you're above critique just because you're 'excited' about the crossover. If you drop a comment that’s essentially baiting for a debate, you can’t get mad when someone calls you out on it. The whole 'if this were Candyman or F13' line is pure deflection—it's just another attempt to make FNAF seem more serious than it is. If you honestly think anyone would’ve cared as much about this crossover if it weren’t for the FNAF fandom’s overzealous hype machine, you’re deluding yourself.

    Let’s not pretend this isn’t about you being defensive because you know deep down that FNAF doesn’t exactly measure up in the same way as other licensed horror IPs in DBD. Instead of getting all worked up and acting like a victim, maybe take a step back and realize that a little bit of mockery isn’t the end of the world. You want respect? Maybe stop treating everyone who doesn’t share your enthusiasm like they’re some kind of villain just because they don’t worship FNAF the way you do.

    "Maybe stop treating everyone who doesn’t share your enthusiasm like they’re some kind of villain just because they don’t worship FNAF the way you do."

    Bro you replied to me lmao. Look through my posts, I've had plenty of FNAF discussions and my tune hasn't changed an ounce. It's fine if you don't like FNAF, idk why you expect me to sit here and listen to you whine about it. I made a simple statement about being excited for a chapter, the fact you think that "invites debate" and somehow think making 'friendly' jabs which are just kinda insults at every turn is effective communication makes me think you're honestly way too juvenile to be here lmao

    I'm not backing down on this bro, your manners are the issue, not you disliking the bear lol

  • @Ace_Main said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3925143#Comment_3925143

    Well, I don’t know how to break this to you, but calling someone "juvenile" for pointing out that your tone might be a bit abrasive isn’t exactly mature either. If anything, it feels more like a deflection than an actual attempt to engage in any sort of meaningful back-and-forth.

    You’re right that you’ve been consistent in your enthusiasm for FNAF, and that’s great—there’s nothing wrong with being excited about a chapter. But acting like anyone who doesn’t share your blind enthusiasm is automatically "whining" or "attacking" you? Yeah, that’s where things get ridiculous. Maybe it’s not that people disagree with you, but how you seem to handle disagreement like it’s some personal offense.

    You can keep labeling people as juvenile and claiming your tone is the only valid one, but here’s a thought: maybe it's the way you're presenting yourself that's making the conversation unnecessarily combative. It’s almost like you’re looking for an argument and then pretending you're just being "excited." That doesn’t come off as just enthusiasm—it comes off as condescending, and it gets old fast.

    But hey, keep thinking it’s all about the other person being "juvenile" while you keep throwing around insults disguised as "friendly jabs." If you can’t see how that’s part of the problem, then I don’t think you’re ready for an actual discussion, and that’s perfectly fine. Keep riding that high horse if it makes you feel better.

    Dude let me put this in plain English. I'm intentionally being abrasive because you annoyed me in our very first interaction. I don't know how you've managed to escape that fact, I'm not trying to hide it.

    I don't care if you dislike Five Nights at Freddies, do that that all you want. Your attempts to make me feel bad for enjoying the series are falling on wholly deaf ears, and I'm not interested in hearing anything you have to say because you have failed to convince me you've spent more than 2 words a second actually thinking about anything you type.

    To belittle myself as much as possible to make my point crystal clear, my issue isn't that you're badmouthing my precious and beloved Freddy Fazbear, my issue is that you've seemed to decide I want to get a notification and talk to you about how much you dislike him. So please and kindly, as the mature adult that you clearly want to be and clearly don't think I am, go talk to anyone that isn't me. Is that statement lost in translation? Do you want to talk to me about the abrasiveness in my tone?

    I'm going to Pax bro, this ain't worth it.

  • @Ace_Main said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3925164#Comment_3925164

    Oh, so now you're intentionally being abrasive because I annoyed you? Nice to know you’re taking this whole thing as some personal vendetta, but alright, go ahead and keep digging that hole.

    Honestly, I don’t give a damn if you enjoy FNAF. I’m not the one here trying to start drama over it. You’re the one who decided to turn this into some petty back-and-forth. I’m just here making my point, and somehow, you’ve taken it as an invitation to turn everything into a personal attack.

    And claiming you’re being "mature" by acting this way? That’s laughable. If that’s your idea of maturity, I’m not sure you fully understand what it means. It’s not clever, it’s not insightful—it’s just you trying to make yourself feel better while playing the victim.

    If you’re “done” with this conversation, maybe you should actually stop replying. No one’s forcing you to keep going. You’re going to PAX, huh? Well, go enjoy it. Maybe some time with actual people who know how to engage in real conversations will do you some good. But hey, that's just my two cents.

    Nah you stop replying first now I'm petty lol

    Edit: Only took 10 posts, but I think he might've realized I don't wanna talk to him. Thank Entity.

    Edit Edit: I gotta be real, coming back to this Convo feels real cathartic.