No news on the overhaul even though we were told there was going to be

Well, I watched the dev live stream because we were told we would get news on the overhaul "later this summer," it's already October and still nothing. Another case of BHVR just making empty promises and lies, and probably no one will remember with the forums closing.

Side note: with Terrifier PTB coming October 27th, seems like we won't have the forums long enough to give feedback either. Wonderful.

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  • @Elan said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4121144#Comment_4121144

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    My all time kill rates are also way lower for sure. but I don't count them as many friendly games or even farming during events I obviously decreased it. i don't slug for 4k and don't run super meta either, just into count.

    I have the occasional friendly or farming game as well, where maybe I let one, two or even all four survivors go. This isn't the norm but does happen. In fact I probably have quite a few of those on Springtrap from when I was trying to farm his awful achievement. I also don't slug for the 4k, I often do not run meta, and I do not hard tunnel.

    And yet both of us are able to easily achieve over 70% KRs, and a lot of those killers I can tell aren't even close to being your mains. It's not like you're going to be the best Judgment or Springtrap in the world with just 10 hours, but you're good enough to get 70%-80%. That means you are by far winning more than you're losing, especially considering those games where you let someone go or someone gets hatch.

    There are certainly many frustrations that killer players have to deal with, just as survivors have to deal with many frustrating things on their end. But by no means do killers have it bad, and by no means are killers struggling to win games.

  • @TragicSolitude said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4121152#Comment_4121152

    I've never been able to track via audio, even with headphones, but I agree with the sentiment. I only mentioned audio because it's an example of how things that hurt players with limitations aren't allowed to be adjusted by the players because it affects balance. Both audio effects and the fog fit into that category, and the weather will probably fit into that category as well.

    For someone like me, who can't seem to track via audio even with a headset (maybe because my headset isn't something I had to mortgage a house to afford), something visual to help with tracking would be much appreciated, because sometimes I can hear footsteps but hell if I know what direction they're coming from; I end up turning in circles and losing complete track of a survivor if I even attempt to follow them via audio. I can track via audio at least somewhat in other games even with my crappy headset, so I don't think it's totally on me. Hmm, I think I'm going very off topic here. Whatever, there are a lot of reasons I kind of don't play DbD much anymore: the game leaves me feeling like it doesn't care about my experience from any angle.

    I can relate to this, and I actually have some really nice headphones. Not even a gaming headset with unbalanced bass, my mic is separate. I actually can track survivors on certain killers while on others the chase music feels so loud it's like I can't think. Billy is the first one that comes to mind for me, I literally just can't hear anything at all. If it weren't for survivors coughing and screaming Clown would be awful too.

    I honestly think even if a music volume slider wouldn't be viable because everyone would just put it to the lowest setting to hear as much as possible (and I'm sure they want to keep the games atmosphere) BHVR could still afford to decrease the volume of chase music by 10%. Some audio balancing would do wonders, they still haven't after a decade balanced the volume of survivor audio either.

  • @TragicSolitude said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4121152#Comment_4121152

    I've never been able to track via audio, even with headphones, but I agree with the sentiment. I only mentioned audio because it's an example of how things that hurt players with limitations aren't allowed to be adjusted by the players because it affects balance. Both audio effects and the fog fit into that category, and the weather will probably fit into that category as well.

    For someone like me, who can't seem to track via audio even with a headset (maybe because my headset isn't something I had to mortgage a house to afford), something visual to help with tracking would be much appreciated, because sometimes I can hear footsteps but hell if I know what direction they're coming from; I end up turning in circles and losing complete track of a survivor if I even attempt to follow them via audio. I can track via audio at least somewhat in other games even with my crappy headset, so I don't think it's totally on me. Hmm, I think I'm going very off topic here. Whatever, there are a lot of reasons I kind of don't play DbD much anymore: the game leaves me feeling like it doesn't care about my experience from any angle.

    You dont need a crazy headset for audio tracking. Im not COMPLETELY sure how much mine were since my wife bought em, but id guess like 40 bucks ish. Its funny seeing these crazy headphones with 7 speakers per ear and such because… thats not how ears work. Your brain essentially figures out a sound's location based off the difference in volumes between your 2 ears, which is why if you have no clue where a speaker is, you might be confused for a second and think someone behind you is infront of you.

  • @Arcturus said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4121153#Comment_4121153

    I can relate to this, and I actually have some really nice headphones. Not even a gaming headset with unbalanced bass, my mic is separate. I actually can track survivors on certain killers while on others the chase music feels so loud it's like I can't think. Billy is the first one that comes to mind for me, I literally just can't hear anything at all. If it weren't for survivors coughing and screaming Clown would be awful too.

    I honestly think even if a music volume slider wouldn't be viable because everyone would just put it to the lowest setting to hear as much as possible (and I'm sure they want to keep the games atmosphere) BHVR could still afford to decrease the volume of chase music by 10%. Some audio balancing would do wonders, they still haven't after a decade balanced the volume of survivor audio either.

    they still haven't after a decade balanced the volume of survivor audio either.

    Yeah, I love playing Jeff sometimes, but if I do I go into the match knowing I am absolutely going to die. Like, even a deaf killer can pinpoint his loud, grunting, always-out-of-breath ass from across the map.

  • @tjt85 said:

    I won't lie, I'm dreading more news on the graphical update because I think it's going to confirm what I already suspect - That the older platforms like Xbox One, PS4, Switch and my potato PC are not going to be able to run the game any more. I'm not even sure there will be a future on any Nintendo platform for the game, since they keep telling us there's no Switch 2 version in the works (which would be my preferred upgrade path). So I could be in for a pretty lengthy break come the update because I'm not looking to upgrade any time soon, as I've always been little bit behind when it comes to console generations. Oh well, at least I'll be able to make a dent in my backlog of other games when it finally does happen.

    I'm honestly not that excited for the update unless it also comes with some fundamental upgrades to core game play mechanics. I'd like to see new ways to escape and new abilities for Killers. If all it has to offer us is the same experience of looping around a rock but with improved textures under some fancy modern lighting and weather effects, I'll be disappointed and wondering why they even bothered. DBD's better looking competitors always lose out because they can't offer the same variety, being single license games, so they become stale very quickly (despite offering their own unique gameplay mechanics). Graphics aren't everything. But then again, if DBD could do all 3 by looking good, offering a modern game play experience and maintaining the variety it currently offers, it would be unstoppable.

    But yeah, they really should have given us some kind of update by now. Even just to acknowledge that they know we're waiting on one but that they have nothing concrete to share with us yet.

    I hope for people that isn't the case. Have some hope, I've seen games split the community into legacy vs current-gen. So we may see the PS4, Xbox, Switch, older hardware remain on the existing version but cannot cross-play with current-gen. Unfortunately some titles, even stop updates and new DLCs. I do know of two major online titles that took this route and one decided to allow cross-play but the older hardware didn't get the engine upgrades and new visuals. I wish they were clear about this so people can prepare.

  • @Nicholas said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4121116#Comment_4121116

    I hope for people that isn't the case. Have some hope, I've seen games split the community into legacy vs current-gen. So we may see the PS4, Xbox, Switch, older hardware remain on the existing version but cannot cross-play with current-gen. Unfortunately some titles, even stop updates and new DLCs. I do know of two major online titles that took this route and one decided to allow cross-play but the older hardware didn't get the engine upgrades and new visuals. I wish they were clear about this so people can prepare.

    I could see them freeze updates at a certain point for the older platforms and allow players continued access to the content they already "own". But I think that's very, very unlikely. They don't even want to spend money on supporting a small community forum, so I think there's zero chance of them maintaining server access for the older platforms. From the EULA:

    "From time to time, BHVR may provide you with updates or modifications to the Game. You understand that certain updates and modifications may be required in order to continue the use of the Game. You agree that BHVR may stop to support previous versions of the Game upon availability of an updated version."

    So yeah, they can pull the plug at any time and there's not really anything anyone can do about it.

    But they could, at the very least, give us a bit more information about what their plan for the future is. All I want from them is transparency. Considering how much money and time a lot of players on these platforms have put into the game over the years, I don't think that's asking for too much.

  • @tjt85 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4121252#Comment_4121252

    I could see them freeze updates at a certain point for the older platforms and allow players continued access to the content they already "own". But I think that's very, very unlikely. They don't even want to spend money on supporting a small community forum, so I think there's zero chance of them maintaining server access for the older platforms. From the EULA:

    "From time to time, BHVR may provide you with updates or modifications to the Game. You understand that certain updates and modifications may be required in order to continue the use of the Game. You agree that BHVR may stop to support previous versions of the Game upon availability of an updated version."

    So yeah, they can pull the plug at any time and there's not really anything anyone can do about it.

    But they could, at the very least, give us a bit more information about what their plan for the future is. All I want from them is transparency. Considering how much money and time a lot of players on these platforms have put into the game over the years, I don't think that's asking for too much.

    Good point, and I agree. They need to communicate openly and early about how it affects "legacy hardware." I see them announcing the end of support on the day a new Chapter releases, and maybe even disabling cross-play that day too. Then, some weeks later, announcing dwindling numbers, and so they are ending support entirely in 30 days. After considering their past, I don't expect much from them. And then you have the snobs who berate people on older hardware, not understanding the economics and access barriers many gamers encounter. Especially in parts of the world where consoles and PCs are extremely expensive.

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