I am starting to being sick of this content creator's "apocalypse of DbD"

Chocolate_Cosmos

Recently I saw that some content creators uploaded videos with bait-like titles with theme of "possible end of DbD" just after PTB came out few days ago.

Seriously, I am disapointed of this bait / exaggerative narrative. First of all, it's PTB and I am pretty sure some changes will be reverted since so many people online including influencers are talking how bad it is. Giving objective feedback is of course in need but I really don't like this exaggerative apocalypse themed narrative.

Second, we had in the past some quite not great patches. The last meta-shake up was also big nerf to solo Survivors and people were calling it "the end of DbD" as well. So MANY times in the past was "end of DbD" but it never happend and same case will be with this patch even if all these changes will go live.

The_Krapper

@Unimatrix00 said:

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3388815#Comment_3388815

How can you say it's been dying when you look at the number of people playing the game? The numbers we have don't support your opinion.

you guys think 34,000 people after a chapter drop is alot? BHVR helped with call of duty vanguard, the player base here is a piss in the bucket compared to some of the other games they've worked on in the last couple years let's be real about it

Doomzilla

@feechima said:

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3388263#Comment_3388263

Agreed. It has to come to an end some time. Will this patch as is, end the game? Probably not. Will a lot of players stop playing the game or play significantly less? I think so. I know I already have. Many dedicated streamers have moved on or interspersed playing DBD with other games. And even when they play DBD they frequently complain they aren't having fun and note they are only playing it because it keeps their numbers up.

Devs are already trying to prepare for the future, and probably hope this new game will catch on before Dbd dies out. The event they keep tying into DBD is meant to drag its player base over to Meet Your Maker, as is the changes to the main page of the forums. Marketing wise, that makes sense.

In my opinion the only glue holding the game together is events and new releases/updates. It keeps the drama up and the curious coming back but that will only work for so long.

Lol no, companies don’t just drop cash cows. Reference: Disney

The_Krapper

@Volcz said:

Well consider this.

If a youtuber/creator did a video on tips/tricks/guides/techs, etc. How many views do you think it'd get?

Now compare that to a clickbait drama/big topic you know a lot of people will click for, b/c it has to do with game balance & the future of the game the viewer is focused on (in this case, DBD).

There's a very big reason why they do what they do, its because its what works. Majority of players would click on the 'game is dying' video over the other.

Its the same thing that happens with other games, most recently its Diablo 4 since the release is coming up in less than 2 months.

Put yourself in the perspective of a content creator and it makes 100% sense. I'd do it too.

In that same perspective think about how many people also parrot the content creators and follow suit with what they do right down to playing the other games they're watching them play instead of this one

foods

good sized recent ptb test video promising the imminent death of the game had rigorous testing methods such as

1. running around grouped up with teammates trying to heal vs a legion
2. going in a straight line with billy for 5 seconds

these are not serious people, ignore them

thrawn3054

@Tsulan said:

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3388943#Comment_3388943

They can always reverse a patch. Buff previously nerfed perks. It all depends how quick they do it. If its too quick (original Freddy nerf after 1 week) or to slow (Freddy rework after 2 years).

True.

Triplehoo

Youtubers: "Meta is getting stale. BHVR needs to do something about this. Otherwise the game dies!"

BHVR: "Ok. Here's the changes we are going to do to freshen up the gameplay"

Youtuber: "OMG! BHVR doesn't know or understand what they are doing! Why the changes? If this goes live, the game dies!"

BHVR: "What? Okay... Uhmm. How about we rework some stuff and see where it goes from there. And we've decided to release a new killer so that these changes will make sense..."

Youtubers: "Why is BHVR releasing YET another killer and doesn't concentrate on balance changes??? This game will die if they do not fix the balance!!"

BHVR: "Oh, come on!!! Fine. We'll concentrate on balance issues, then..."

Youtubers: " Why hasn't BHVR released any new killers, survivors or maps?!?! The balance isn't great, but this game is getting boring without new content!"

BHVR "Now you're just throwing a piss at me... Fine! We'll make balance changes that will revert the meta to previous one. Happy?? And here, have an event while at it!"

Youtubers: The meta is stale. This game is dying. BHVR needs to do something"

BHVR: OK! That's it! Come here you, you little sh---

verysleepy

@Mockingjay_S451 said:

I agree 100% that the casual player will be gone if this goes live as it is in PTB. The point being, somebody with thousands of hours in the game isn’t going to be that worried about playing injured as they can reasonably loop a killer if they are chased.

Newer players and the casual player? Yeah, not so much.

And I can tell you that the casual player does not read patch notes nor car about changes they don't know have happened. They just go ... Oh I can't do that anymore ok.

They then continue to play.

That's what a casual is.. they aren't on the forums, they just enjoy horror dbd game, and my fiance is one of them and gives zero cares to this change as she isn't a sweat.

So yeah, you're 100 percent wrong. Casuals will just play for an hour or 2 and then logoff, rinse repeat. Win or lose. Only if they lose 100 percent no matter what ( which dbd Devs would see in data) would they maybe venture to see what's up. At which point the Devs would correct any unbalance

Kalevi

@[Deleted User] said:

Because drama creates engagement. That's why I rarely bother to watch many of them now days.

@Chocolate_Cosmos said:

Recently I saw that some content creators uploaded videos with bait-like titles with theme of "possible end of DbD" just after PTB came out few days ago.

Seriously, I am disapointed of this bait / exaggerative narrative. First of all, it's PTB and I am pretty sure some changes will be reverted since so many people online including influencers are talking how bad it is. Giving objective feedback is of course in need but I really don't like this exaggerative apocalypse themed narrative.

Second, we had in the past some quite not great patches. The last meta-shake up was also big nerf to solo Survivors and people were calling it "the end of DbD" as well. So MANY times in the past was "end of DbD" but it never happend and same case will be with this patch even if all these changes will go live.

You better be careful now. Your facts will destroy their egos.

Smoe

@The_Krapper said:

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3388255#Comment_3388255

It takes a lot of veterans who are already burned out from the last 6 years off it as well, people acting like this game will never end are delusional, BHVR said 4 years ago they "hoped" to keep it going at least five more years and we're coming to that deadline where eventually the higher power in that company will decide to no longer update it and keep it where it stands , the game will more than likely still be playable but I predict the 8th anniversary is gonna be the last where they announce it's ending, and by then they will have some real competition or announce a DBD 2 (which I doubt will happen)

BHVR said 4 years ago they "hoped" to keep it going at least five more years

iirc they said a few years later that they planned to continue supporting the game for as long as people were still interested in playing it.

Also this

feechima

@Doomzilla said:

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3388895#Comment_3388895

Lol no, companies don’t just drop cash cows. Reference: Disney

If you had a point, it missed me. No one drops a cash cow, until the milk dries up.

Doomzilla

@feechima said:

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3389071#Comment_3389071

If you had a point, it missed me. No one drops a cash cow, until the milk dries up.

So Star Wars doesn’t ring a bell? How about the MCU. Don’t be dense.

pseudechis

remember “content creators” belong to this very exclusive group called anybody.

So basically anybody with a laptop and a camera can be a content creator, meaning there is absolutely no reason to take anything any one of them says seriously.

ShinobuSK

Consider not watching content creators you dont like.

Jace233

@Chocolate_Cosmos said:

Recently I saw that some content creators uploaded videos with bait-like titles with theme of "possible end of DbD" just after PTB came out few days ago.

Seriously, I am disapointed of this bait / exaggerative narrative. First of all, it's PTB and I am pretty sure some changes will be reverted since so many people online including influencers are talking how bad it is. Giving objective feedback is of course in need but I really don't like this exaggerative apocalypse themed narrative.

Second, we had in the past some quite not great patches. The last meta-shake up was also big nerf to solo Survivors and people were calling it "the end of DbD" as well. So MANY times in the past was "end of DbD" but it never happend and same case will be with this patch even if all these changes will go live.

The game is bleeding players because the core design of the game and killers never change.

Needs new killer designs that really challenge both the killer and survivors. Every killer besides nurse just starts to feel the same the more you play. Needs more variation and wacky designs like hers (but not OP).

pseudechis

@Jace233 said:

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/370587/i-am-starting-to-being-sick-of-this-content-creators-apocalypse-of-dbd

The game is bleeding players because the core design of the game and killers never change.

Needs new killer designs that really challenge both the killer and survivors. Every killer besides nurse just starts to feel the same the more you play. Needs more variation and wacky designs like hers (but not OP).

While yes more varied designs are needed to keep the game fresh.

I’m afraid it’s not bleeding players the way people seem to go on about. Every now and then you get some doomsayer misinterpreting steam charts when if you look closely at those charts average player count is pretty stable.