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Survivor needs to be nerfed

OPXtreme_ttv OPXtreme_ttv
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Survivor, when played in low mmr, is average or pretty easy, but when u reach the top MMR where the majority of survivors are in SWFs or run extremely good perks and are good, winning becomes impossible. Even with killers, gen kick meta it's just the better role still. Gens should be longer and gen perks should have very situational effects and speed boosts. Pallet spawns should be decreased too. both roles practically rely on certain maps to win based on size and resources.

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  • OPXtreme_ttv OPXtreme_ttv

    Imma even factor lore into this, why do survivors know how to repair a generator and how can they do it so fast?

  • Gandor Gandor

    It just seems you found survivor that are just better players then you. Winning in high MMR is so impossible, that a lot of people play winstreaks. Nurse has 555 wins in a row and counting. Onryo has 100+. Most of the killers have high winstreak. But solo survivor has record of 34. And as for high MMR = SWF only - that's also not true. You get at most 10% of your games 4-man.

  • Steakdabait Steakdabait

    39% winrate.

  • bjorksnas bjorksnas

    @Steakdabait said:

    39% winrate.

    whats the winrate without survivors dcing or throwing matches

  • Gandor Gandor

    @bjorksnas said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3302073#Comment_3302073

    whats the winrate without survivors dcing or throwing matches

    And killers giving hatch kind of also skews the data a little bit.

  • Steakdabait Steakdabait

    @bjorksnas said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3302073#Comment_3302073

    whats the winrate without survivors dcing or throwing matches

    devs stated that dc/suiciding means the match isn't counted.

    @Gandor said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3302090#Comment_3302090

    And killers giving hatch kind of also skews the data a little bit.

    in matches where survivors get hatch the match is counted as if that survivor didn't exist.

  • kingcarl2012 kingcarl2012

    @Steakdabait said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3302090#Comment_3302090

    devs stated that dc/suiciding means the match isn't counted.

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3302092#Comment_3302092

    in matches where survivors get hatch the match is counted as if that survivor didn't exist.

    They stated dc's dont count they never said anything about first hook suicides

  • Iron_Cutlass Iron_Cutlass

    I hope this doesnt come off the wrong way, but since you do have your Twitch in your name, I decided it would at least be a good idea to watch your most recent VOD.

    • First Match: Legion - 2K (Tie) - 15 minute match - claims the opposing side is cheating because they did Gallows Generator too fast, but you never really defended the Generator since you were distracted on defending another Generator.
    • Second Match: Ghostface - 0K (Lose) - 17 minute match - claims the Ada is cheating because you failed to count out BT... I literally dont know what to tell you other than pay attention to their movement speed since Haste can indicate when the BT ends.
    • Third Match: Nemesis - 3K (Win) - 14 minute match - claims the Rebecca is cheating because they got hatch when you couldnt see them, but they had Sprint Burst so they could have left the area when you were checking lockers at Shack.
    • Fourth Match: Nemesis - 0K (Lose) - 6 minute match - claims the opposing side is cheating because they did a Generator near a zombie (ignoring the fact that Nemesis's zombie AI is horrible), and also because they did another Generator (which was nowhere near a zombie but you claimed that it was)
    • Fifth Match: Survivor so we are ignoring for the time being since the focus of this is on Killer.
    • Sixth Match: Survivor so we are ignoring for the time being since the focus of this is on Killer.
    • Seventh Match: Deathslinger - 3K (Win) - 19 minute match - complains about Rebecca getting the hatch saying that Survivors need a nerf?
    • Eight Match: Sadako - 4K (Win) - 20 minute match - makes a lot of mistakes and wins but constantly complains that it is the Vittorio's fault, BMs them on hook and talks ---- about them for a majority of the match.
    • This means of all the matches played in your last VOD: You Won 3 | You Lost 2 | You Tied 1

    Simply put. Why am I even posting all of this to begin with? You are a TTV, you have the options to sit here and look back the VODs you post, and instead of complaining on the forums despite winning most of your matches or accusing people of cheating and reporting them for literally no reason, you can look back at the VODs and learn and grow as a player.

    I use to be in the same mindset that everything else is the problem a year ago, but Ive come to learn that it was me that was causing me to lose half the time; it takes steps to leave that mindset of "everyone or everything else is the problem". Everyone makes mistakes man, just try to learn from them. <3

  • Steakdabait Steakdabait

    @Iron_Cutlass said:

    I hope this doesnt come off the wrong way, but since you do have your Twitch in your name, I decided it would at least be a good idea to watch your most recent VOD.

    • First Match: Legion - 2K (Tie) - 15 minute match - claims the opposing side is cheating because they did Gallows Generator too fast, but you never really defended the Generator since you were distracted on defending another Generator.
    • Second Match: Ghostface - 0K (Lose) - 17 minute match - claims the Ada is cheating because you failed to count out BT... I literally dont know what to tell you other than pay attention to their movement spend since Haste can indicate when the BT ends.
    • Third Match: Nemesis - 3K (Win) - 14 minute match - claims the Rebecca is cheating because they got hatch when you couldnt see them, but they had Sprint Burst so they could have left the area when you were checking lockers at Shack.
    • Fourth Match: Nemesis - 0K (Lose) - 6 minute match - claims the opposing side is cheating because they did a Generator near a zombie (ignoring the fact that Nemesis's zombie AI is horrible), and also because they did another Generator (which was nowhere near a zombie but you claimed that it was)
    • Fifth Match: Survivor so we are ignoring for the time being since the focus of this is on Killer.
    • Sixth Match: Survivor so we are ignoring for the time being since the focus of this is on Killer.
    • Seventh Match: Deathslinger - 3K (Win) - 19 minute match - complains about Rebecca getting the hatch saying that Survivors need a nerf?
    • Eight Match: Sadako - 4K (Win) - 20 minute match - makes a lot of mistakes and wins but constantly complains that it is the Vittorio's fault, BMs them on hook and talks ---- about them for a majority of the match.
    • This means of all the matches played in your last VOD: You Won 3 | You Lost 2 | You Tied 1

    Simply put. Why am I even posting all of this to begin with? You are a TTV, you have the options to sit here and look back the VODs you post, and instead of complaining on the forums despite winning most of your matches or accusing people of cheating and reporting them for literally no reason, you can look back at the VODs and learn and grow as a player.

    I use to be in the same mindset that everything else is the problem a year ago, but Ive come to learn that it was me that was causing me to lose half the time; it takes steps to leave that mindset of "everyone or everything else is the problem". Everyone makes mistakes man, just try to learn from them. <3

    KING

  • jajay119 jajay119

    @Iron_Cutlass said:

    I hope this doesnt come off the wrong way, but since you do have your Twitch in your name, I decided it would at least be a good idea to watch your most recent VOD.

    • First Match: Legion - 2K (Tie) - 15 minute match - claims the opposing side is cheating because they did Gallows Generator too fast, but you never really defended the Generator since you were distracted on defending another Generator.
    • Second Match: Ghostface - 0K (Lose) - 17 minute match - claims the Ada is cheating because you failed to count out BT... I literally dont know what to tell you other than pay attention to their movement spend since Haste can indicate when the BT ends.
    • Third Match: Nemesis - 3K (Win) - 14 minute match - claims the Rebecca is cheating because they got hatch when you couldnt see them, but they had Sprint Burst so they could have left the area when you were checking lockers at Shack.
    • Fourth Match: Nemesis - 0K (Lose) - 6 minute match - claims the opposing side is cheating because they did a Generator near a zombie (ignoring the fact that Nemesis's zombie AI is horrible), and also because they did another Generator (which was nowhere near a zombie but you claimed that it was)
    • Fifth Match: Survivor so we are ignoring for the time being since the focus of this is on Killer.
    • Sixth Match: Survivor so we are ignoring for the time being since the focus of this is on Killer.
    • Seventh Match: Deathslinger - 3K (Win) - 19 minute match - complains about Rebecca getting the hatch saying that Survivors need a nerf?
    • Eight Match: Sadako - 4K (Win) - 20 minute match - makes a lot of mistakes and wins but constantly complains that it is the Vittorio's fault, BMs them on hook and talks ---- about them for a majority of the match.
    • This means of all the matches played in your last VOD: You Won 3 | You Lost 2 | You Tied 1

    Simply put. Why am I even posting all of this to begin with? You are a TTV, you have the options to sit here and look back the VODs you post, and instead of complaining on the forums despite winning most of your matches or accusing people of cheating and reporting them for literally no reason, you can look back at the VODs and learn and grow as a player.

    I use to be in the same mindset that everything else is the problem a year ago, but Ive come to learn that it was me that was causing me to lose half the time; it takes steps to leave that mindset of "everyone or everything else is the problem". Everyone makes mistakes man, just try to learn from them. <3

    Excellent post.

  • not_requested49 not_requested49

    @OPXtreme_ttv said:

    Imma even factor lore into this, why do survivors know how to repair a generator and how can they do it so fast?

    It can all just be chalked up to the entity providing survivors knowledge

  • not_requested49 not_requested49

    @Gandor said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3302090#Comment_3302090

    And killers giving hatch kind of also skews the data a little bit.

    And afk killers as well

  • Stabby_Widdershins Stabby_Widdershins

    @OPXtreme_ttv said:

    Imma even factor lore into this, why do survivors know how to repair a generator and how can they do it so fast?

    Because there would not be a usable game if Survivors just stood around scratching their heads?

    Not everything needs to be realistic.

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