Why DBD stiil is survivor sided
When game will be a killer sided ?
Who know ?
Killer never beat SWF.
When game will be a killer sided ?
Who know ?
Killer never beat SWF.
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If game is survivorside, why you are not streaming your survivor games for everyone. You should escape most of games because game is favors survivors, it should be easy.
Because almost no one is at high MMR.
The game is only Survivor-sided when all Survivors know what they're doing and using their best stuff
And how you know about that? Did BHVR shared any stats about it? Or you are just assuming.
Well then, if it is true i can not see problem to balance game around mid-high mmr. Game should be balanced around majority of playerbase. But this does not means they should ignore high mmr players. That's why i said mid-high balance will be good.
On a tangent In their next dev chat I’d love to see them do a graph of Kill percentage by Killer by MMR similar to those neat graphs they did of Perk usage percentage by perk by MMR. So x-axis would be the MMRs, y-axis the kill rate, and the lines would be each killer character with the thickness of the line being proportional to the order of magnitude of the number of players at that intersection. Then show two copies of that graph side by side, one for a month post rework changes and another for a month pre-rework. That would be a cool visual representation of how the rework has impacted kill rates both across the board and by character.
And a variant on that which would also be neat to see would be the same chart but each line is a map.
Unless there are four tournament level survivors on comms then dbd is killer sided currently.
In my 6k hours on DBD I have faced fewer than 10 of these tournament level SWF's while they were on comms.
Many killer players here will say every second game they face is one of those SWF's. It isn't true. You can see all the top MMR streamers for proof.
I don't think the vast majority of games should be easy wins for killers just because tournament level players have a slight edge against the absolute best killer players (excluding nurse, of course)
You‘re the same guy calling Reassurance OP and whining that thana got (rightfully) nerfed.
You just suck at the game and can’t even handle the slightest bit of a challenge. The entitlement is real.
No, you wrong, everyone that complains about "survivor-sidedness" just face exclusively tournament teams and tournament teams only with no exception. Also every map layout is infinite connected to infinite especially for them.
Yesterday saw one victim of survivor sidedness: ghostface tunnel claudette so dedicated that they both literally ran around me, while I was doing a gen. Two others did other gens too in peace. At the end we broke NOED (ofc, all skilled killers don't go without noed), unhook Claudie and left. And as expected, usual rant about how survivor sided that game is.
But the thing is killer does not have to know how to play to still win. The game is right now balanced around bad killers. They don't ofcourse win good survivors but win most games agains't bad or average survivors.
Game is "Who wants to win" sided.
If you play in SWF group and bring all best items, addons, offerings with good map for your team and play the most effective way, you have very big chance to win even againts top tier killers.
If you play the best killer with best addons with best offering and play the most "unfair" effective way you have good chance to win even againts SWF.
Because 6.1.0 was a QOL patch. Most changes barely affected the game balance at high level.
Bold of you to assume I'm playing the game.
The game isn't balanced around bad Killers. It isn't balanced at all right now. 6.1.0 was one of the biggest mistakes in the game
"Comp players don't even Q public to begin with"
You sure?
In my experience he is right. Comp players don't tend to group together in a four-stack with comms trying to destroy lobbies. Those that do are few and far between, and don't seem to care they are playing an imbalanced match. I see them in duos from time to time, but most players realize how bad the balance is in this game and play accordingly.
Can't say the same for nurse players spamming her best addons/perks and playing as if their life depends on them getting a 4k every game.
He most definitely is. He's better than any other competitive Killer out there. He's on a 90 4k streak
I don't think the game is actually survivor sided more so it's just the game has no way to make killer feel actually rewarding. If you try to 12 hook everyone chances are you're gonna be in for rough games. If you camp, tunnel, and stack slowdowns, you'll end up seeing way more kills but it's not really a fun experience either for either side.
Yeah, pretty much this.
I win swf:s all the time with middle tier killers and without best stuff. Reason is simple most arw not that good and only slightly better than solo.
It literally isn't.
DBD has not been survivor sided for a VERY long time, no matter how hard this pill is to swallow.
DBD is better player-sided.
This game is balanced for the absolute majority of players.
That wouldn't be a problem if the average player wasn't extremely bad at the game. The game can only realistically be balanced around higher skilled players because of how bad the average player is
This is the only correct answer.
Why do people care so much about facing an SWF of 4 "tournament" players? Are you gonna die if you lose a game? Are you betting money on it? Is your life gonna change? If not, then who cares? Just play the game and move on.
I know u trollin.
Lol.
Alright prove it then.
SWF>Killer>soloq
That's how that formula will and always be, that's it
I mean, thana didn't get rightfully nerfed, in fact it just shouldn't have been touched in general, it was a fair and balanced perk on most killer, while being a bit too oppressive on like 2 killers that no one sees anyways
Map still be survivor sided.
They do, ever watch Ayrun play with their team of 4?
Because it's simply not fair or fun to get bullied without being able to do anything about it. Same reason people don't like it when killers camp and tunnel.
They are not Ayrun. Ayrun is known as good survivor main, that's why he is escaping a lot. But even he has not high escape rates.
If we are giving examples from popular streamers, what about Otz and Tru3? They are winning almost every game. SupaAlf has +300 win streak on Nurse.
So now if we look this streamers, game is killerside and we should nerf killers. Fair? Nah.
Op is saying game is survivorside and they should prove it with their gameplay. Not from other stramers. Simple.
Its survivor sided when the survivors play with common sense. BHVR balances around potatoes which are like 90% of the survivor playerbase.
Game is going to die soon because of this
I saw your wesker gameplay and it didnt looked like survivors were a problem
I agree and I think that's where our last conversation Omens was breaking down into a us vs them talk instead of a real discussion. I am not one for Toxic Camping and Tunneling or stacking slowdowns because where is the fun in that.
But playing fair is seen by alot of survivors (at least from my experience) as EZ Baby Killer responses or just general BM in end game chat.
I think its ok, because they balance killer gameplay around potatoes, too. Its the high end that falls of.
Yes balance the game around that bad killers thay they can win best 1% of survivors.
If you lost to a bad Killer, your team was either on their level or below. A bad Killer can't win against better Survivors
That’s not true at all.
Literally skill issue
Didnt they nerf twins because she was meh for average but ''a monster for high mmr''
It's a law of averages. The average player is bad at this game, so the top killers win more games and naturally there are 4 times more survivors, so you run into an "average" survivor more often than an "average" killer. All it takes is 1 weak link on the team of 4 that a killer can exploit and the team will likely lose. Ayrun often plays solo. But, you can find just as many survivor teams that have crazy win streaks too. Such as this team that is on a 52 win streak:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm2rzuOUKaANow try pitting Otz or SupaAlf against Ayrun and the rest of the team, or this team with the 52 win streak for, let's say 10 matches. See who wins more.