Iron Will finally has a counterplay

aryola03

I'm also a survivor main and this change is nice.Because old Iron Will don't have counterplay.If you're playing Spirit you're trying to find someone you can't see or hear. That's disgusting

But now it has a counterplay and no free escape. Thanks BHVR

Sylhiri

@[Deleted User] said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3021410#Comment_3021410

Can you see scratch marks through walls?

No, no you can't. You would have to go past the wall, through a door or window. Is it a terrible thing that you can't pinpoint a survivor through walls if they run a perk?

TeabaggingGhostface

@HectorBrando said:

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Howdy fellow Survivor mains, Im a Survivor main myself and I believe if we all spawmed already on hooks it would finally bring the game to the sweet balancing spot that its in so dire need, Im sure we can all make compromises here.

Obsession perk that starts the Obsession on a random hook, but their hook progress doesn't progress

Bran

I mean...playing killer...I really don't have a problem with iron will as is.

Gorgonia

People complaining about losing survivors here remind me of those baby killers that see all the blood pools next to the locker I'm hiding inside and still go past it and lose me... haha

eleventbh

@[Deleted User] said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3021379#Comment_3021379

The TR is not used in chase though. The problem with IW is that footsteps in chase are next to impossible to hear due to the loud music, and having grunts of pain removed like that heavily compromises the killer. When a survivor with current IW breaks LoS it's borderline impossible to know which direction he's running to.

A killer who doesn't have a terror radius is likely undetectable, and being undetectable means you don't have a red stain either, which is used in chase. (I thought)

Babadook83

funny how killer mains say that iron will has no counterplay and shouldnt be in the game cause it requires no skill from the survivor's part. Yet we have aura reading perks for killers that literally say where a survivor is. talking about double standards, right??

VikingDragonXii

@Marigoria said:

It's funny how you claim in your posts to be a "survivor main" but then have the weirdest takes...

First you say survivor will be OP with genrush, now that iron will has counter play and wont be a free escape. Yea, it's looking kinda sus ngl.

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3020777#Comment_3020777

That's the only thing it needed, so survivor still had breathing sounds when using iron will. Hell, they could even make breathing louder when they're running for all i care. But no, they completely butchered it.

They never should of changed Stridor to be fully countered by IW then this never would of happened tbh

Mozic

Its kind of novel seeing some people argue that Iron Will should be kept as-is because its really not that big of a deal and killers should simply get good and handle it, and other people arguing that they can't live without it to the point that the game would be unplayable to them.

It can't really be both, can it?

Raccoon

@Mozic said:

Its kind of novel seeing some people argue that Iron Will should be kept as-is because its really not that big of a deal and killers should simply get good and handle it, and other people arguing that they can't live without it to the point that the game would be unplayable to them.

It can't really be both, can it?

Most of the community is well aware it is one of the best perks in the game, hence its pick rate in both official stats and every single aggregate site.

It's fairly easy to tell who is being sincere and who is being disingenuous/contrarian in their posting.

TheSubstitute

@Tatt3dWon said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3020847#Comment_3020847

corrupt was never a problem to begin with it works exactly the same ruin still regresses gens until someone dies when someone dies if its still 5 gens games usually over pop is still good if the gen has progress pain res is like the only true nerf now go on to the non meta perks that they buffed to the moon and tell me which ones didn't get better and like I said only perks that are good for survivors now are the gen rush ones. What survivor perk would you run that they "buffed"?

Are you seriously arguing that Ruin, Pop and Corrupt didn't just receive significant nerfs?

Megmain80

@fulltonon said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3021391#Comment_3021391

Considering how this game was notorious for how frustrating playing the killer is, it will surely be balanced out.

Killer is only frustrating when playing 4 man swf sweating it out, otherwise it is cake.

Raccoon

@Megmain80 said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3021483#Comment_3021483

Killer is only frustrating when playing 4 man swf sweating it out, otherwise it is cake.

So cake that they said killrates are lower than expected which caused them to universally buff all killers?

There aren't really that many sweaty 4-man SWF's.

foxsansbox

@squbax said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3020778#Comment_3020778

Deathslinger moment.

Right in the goddamn feels.

WesCravenFan

Iron Will was bullshit and it deserved the double nerf.