Thats it.
I used to be against this but now I think its a good idea.
Devs. PLEASE curb stomp killers who camp. Ruin their entire lives by changing how it works. Make hooks teleport or something. 90% of campers do it just to ruin the experience and be as big of a jerk as they possibly can and thats all they do it for.
FIVE cakes in play just now and one of you clowns face camped me for no reason and I died with 4k points. What is wrong with some of you? At the last second a Leon tried to save me and this absolute trash Legion actually STILL pursued me after downing Leon. God forbid I get to play in the match AT ALL.
I know this move will hurt people who don't even camp but oh well. Jerks always have to ruin everything for everyone else. Kinda like Pyramid Head being able to see cages auras. Playerrs whos sole intent is to try and ruin someones game abused it and it got taken away.
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Nah bro, ur gonna get curb stomped for suggesting nerfs to camping.
Sorry fam, but that's how the forums work.
How dare u suggest a nerf for killers that camp.
I learned the hard way f a few days ago and coming with a nerf to Bubba's camping capabilities. It was a pretty good nerf since I just connected two and two together and did not touch his 1v1 potential at all.....Apparently, he doesn't need nerf in that regard...
Apparently, Bubba's a mediocre killer....?
Then delete Steves perk and make the hook timer pause forever if the killer is within 40 meters of the hook. Then speed up gen times by 10% if the killer is still in that radius. Do something. I'm tired of experiencing these types of situations.
Camping completely craps on groups of solos and thats it. IDK why the Kindered idea didn't get implemented even though it was discussed YEARS ago.
All solos should automatically have that perk.
They've slowly made nerfs to camping over the years. I say go in for the curb stomp. It will also remove a huge portion of toxic trash people from this community who just want to annoy people.
Want camping to stop? Pretty easy. Make the survivor objectives take longer by adding MANDATORY secondary objectives. Then killers wont feel the need to camp 🤷♂️
(Well a couple of psychos might, most wont)
They would just slug you to death instead.
No, and I'm tired of pointing out why to people salty that they lost in a way they don't approve of. So all you get is a 'no'.
The devs did that once, survivors abused the ######### out of it by running around the hook
Yeah, but if they're touching one side, the killer mains will come flooding the forums crying why they aren't touching survivors. For example, moris got nerfed, keys are still a thing.
In my post, I merely suggested that Bubba gets 1/3 of his charge depleted when he chainsaw someone so it's possible to rescue with BT against him. This would allow the camped player to actually play the game & allow a proper trade. Bubba in this scenario will always get a trade. But apparently, It was too much & people took it as a huge nerf... Bubba's so mediocre he gets playtime in tournaments...Smh.
Youd lose 3/4s of the killers overnight. Enjoy the lobby simulator
Remove hook grabs and you remove the incentive to camp for most killers.
Stop going for unsafe unhooks where the Killer can grab you.
I really don't get this whole thing where Survivors make bad plays, get punished, and then blame the Killer & demand changes be made so they can make safe bad plays.
Its not a "bad play" to risk going down to save your teammate who has zero possibility of getting away in that situation.
Camping is a "bad play" and the only reason it can work is because of the lack of communication.
Ok lets put in mics in every match by default. See how camping trash likes that.
Right, that will stop people who camp with no gens done.
Im all for the idea that hook timers get paused forever if the killer is in a certain radius near the hook + after some time the survivor gets teleported to another hook.
it's always the ones who case me for eternity
are you guys having fun with the event?
Rofl. The game is meant to revolve around lack of communication and the bad plays it can create.
Hence why so many Killers hate SWF; the verbal communication replaces EVERY AURA READING PERK and renders many Killers into jokes, because the game was not designed for voice comms.
But yet another way Survivors are demanding the game be changed to hold their hands, because you don't approve of camping, and Killers aren't allowed to do anything the Survivor Overlords disapprove of! 😂
Is there some type of boycott DBD loser meme thing going on or something? Usually complaints about camping and tunneling are exageratted and not too bad. But during this event? I have NEVER played such a scumbag killer as I have during this. It's like they're trying to be jerks too. Camping with 5 cakes in the match like #########.
You know the devs themselves put that to rest and claimed it wasn't true.
Then the irony is these killers have SWF so much then go and encourage people to play SWF.
I said a few psychos might still do it. If secondary mandatory objectives are added reveal the killers aura to all survivors till he leaves. Im cool with both
And lets be real here, not many games have killers who camp first hook
Agreed. Killers should lose points if they camp or tunnel. It’s so out of hand which is surprising since playing killer is easy as is. A lot of miserable people out to spread that misery to others just wanting to enjoy the game.
What if hooking worked differently, like tormented survivors. The survivor is downed and the killer has to perform some kind of interaction to summon the entity, so it's not down survivor, instant hook. The entity swallows them and hooks them on a random hook outside of a 32m range of the killer, like the cage of torment but hooked.
Claimed what was not true? Voice comms ruining the premise of the game?
They fibbed:
As for voice comms not being all that powerful; another fib. As much as I love this game, they have been known to double down on 'We did <x> and we NEVER make mistakes'.
It took nearly 5 years to change the Struggle Mechanic, when people were complaining about pain from year one. And the reply at one of the livestreams to the question of the Struggle Mechanic...last year, I think it was? 'Well, we invented this, so it's not changing'. They just refuse to admit mistakes until years after the fact.
SWF is one of those mistakes. They had no idea it would upset game balance so much, so they continue to develop the game as if people don't use SWF, then stubbornly claim SWF does not work as well as it does to cover their mistake.
I can't believe how far some people are willing to go to not only ruin other people's games, but to justify and defend doing so.
It's so weird to me.
If being killed in a PvP game where the opponent's goal is to kill you ruins your fun; why did you buy a PvP game where the opponent's goal is to kill you?
The opponents goal is to kill you, not to purposefully bm and ruin your fun.
Believe it or not there's ways to kill survivors without being a douche for your own entertainment.
i wouldnt mind them introducing new Perks / buffing old ones to deal with it.
something i've always been in favor of was a repair speed bonus for every Survivor added to Kindred, if the Killer stays too long within the aura reveal range (16m i believe) to a hooked survivor that has the perk, without being in a chase and without another survivor being within those 16m.
Of course killers never have to face sweaty rank 1 4-man SWF on comms with flashlights whose sole intent is to ruin the killer’s game. I’m fine with punishing camping if SWF also gets nerfed into the ground.
I play both sides enough to know that both sides are going to face unfun situations. It won’t change until the balance problems in the game are fixed, which who knows if that will ever happen.
If what some survivors say is true and camping is a rampant problem, then the law of averages suggests that you should get an easy escape 3 out of every 4 matches. If you’re always the one getting downed first, then you should work on not being the first one to get downed.
Ever consider they won't touch SWF because of how garbage and random trying to play solo is? Mainly due to some lame killer trying to one hook somebody with 525% bonus points in the match.
I play killer and solo survivor and i've run into my fair share of face campers (just standing a few meters away from you), to just looping around killer shack or a jungle gym where the hooked survivor is (more extreme version of proxy camping).
And they always get rewarded because my teammates go in for the save. What usually happens is the hooked survivor escaped injured, 2 other teammates are injured, and a new survivor has been hooked.
Not to mention most of these face campers are running NOED.
Thats it...this post is the reason I am going to camp harder. Entitled survivors telling me how to play /s
They already punish campers, don't you know? They destroy hooks for some reason after someone gets sacrificed on them!
5 cakes in place, survivors split up on gens and finish their objective in 5 minutes by barely even winning on chases if you even dare to try and be nice as a killer.
How about no. Work for your unhooks. The killer has the choice to be strategic with their hook placement so they can patrol an area, and you don't get a reset for free just because you got downed and hooked.
Way I see it, I get someone out of the game early, guarantee the game doesn't end instantly because generators are bullshit, and then the killer and the other remaining survivors can earn themselves some points.
How does them winning chases mean your being nice? Sounds like you're saying that since you normally lose you will then play like a jerk because why not. God forbid you just learn how to be a better killer.
This is a lame move when you end up getting the same or LESS points you would've gotten had you just played the game normally anyways. Also ######### is wrong with any killer who loads into a lobby and sees FIVE CAKES and is then like oh man I really want that 4k. You're GUARANTEED massive points and you're hung up on a meaningless kill? What?
Sorry but it isn't "entitled" to point out the complete lack of gameplay as the survivor who is being camped. This is a game we paid for and damn right EXPECT to get to play. Except you can't do anything when you're a random getting camped at 5 gens by some POS. Killers like you are always the biggest hypocrites. I bet you complain about SWF and safe loops. But face camping is okay? Exactly.
Oh and PLEASE do. It will only further promote the issue and speed up the eventualy death of camping that will eventually happen.
Wow imagine being angry enough to rant against someone with an obvious sarcastic post.
Btw "/s" is the indication for sarcasm.
Putting survivors on a hook then going off into the sunset to chase another survivor, allowing survivors a free reset and a free unhook is 100% being nice. Not slugging people instantly to get as much pressure is being nice. I know survivors think that's how killers just have to play because it's dictated in their holy scripture, but no actually. A killer doing those things, not tunneling, not strategically camping or 3 genning and slugging is literally just being nice out of their own kindness.
Also it's not about "omg i wanna 4k so hard"...its more like "hey I go in trying to win cuz its a game where i play against another side". Everyone has different win conditions in my case 3k or more. It's funny how you think that's the mentality a killer who wants to win has... Like do you also think survivors that do gens in 5 minutes and escape are literally just thinking "yeah dude im gonna pump out those gens and finish the game as fast as ######### possible". They're probably just thinking "im gonna try to escape this game, lets do my objective". you just like to ascribe malicious intent to killers who like to try to win their games.
Also: "Sounds like you're saying that since you normally lose you will then play like a jerk because why not. God forbid you just learn how to be a better killer." I'm not even going to bring up how much I win or lose because it's irrelevant, I'm a decent killer, not terrible, definitely not super high tear, maybe somewhat above average with the killers I know how to use. HOWEVER. There is nothing in the world that will make me think it's justifiable to demand a killer to play like a saint while the main objective survivors have is to hold a single button on an inanimate object for a few seconds. There is literally nothing in the game that is as easy as gens. (To clarify: survivor gameplay is not braindead and there is skill to it that makes a ton of difference, their main objective is still the easiest thing in the game, so anyone who says killers are morally obligated to give survivors an easier time is wrong in my opinion. Survivors aren't morally obligated to give killers an easier time either.)
That /s at the end...means I was being sarcastic🤣
And killers are facing it as well...just looking for my crown and some games get gen rushed before I can find it... 7 original killers to go😛