No joke can we add counter-play to the spirit please

I'm tired of having to suicide on hooks because there's no counterplay to a spirit running stridor, because ironwill no longer works then, walking doesn't work either. I've tried the scratch mark tricks and everything, man this is getting to the point I'm gonna quit this game if she doesn't get SOME kind of counter-play.

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  • @Yords said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1879366#Comment_1879366

    She is not really out playable. All you are doing is guessing and hoping she messes up. Bad spirit players are the reason people think she has counterplay.

    This !

  • @bjorksnas said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1880917#Comment_1880917

    double cooldown addons mean 5 second uptime 10 second cooldown 2 second charge up time and 7.0 m/s movement speed

    that means before the spirit starts using her power she has to be within 7 meters of you or she doesn't have enough speed to land a hit if you just hold w

    see even with that I know enough to formulate a plan of attack which is abuse her other abysmal attributes that aren't being buffed by addons

    and also it takes her 15 seconds per try if she uses her full power thats still 15 seconds time for your team hit or not hit

    Good luck trying to abuse a main spirit you will be down before reach the pallet bro (I'm NOT talking about mediocre ones).

    • Billy ( lot of fun ).
    • Nurse ( lot of fun ).
    • Bubba ( hilarious even if it's insidious base Bubba god i cry LOL ).
    • Wraith ( lot of fun, trying to outplay with smart chases and bodyblocks from Wraith denied lot of fun ).
    • Demo ( amazing fun chases ).

    Against Spirit ( pre-drop a pallet and hope she is not on the other side already ... if you ever reach that pallet). Vault and hope again.

    What's the point ?

    We want to defend ourselves, mindgame and sometimes get out along with all hours we put in the game and experience.

    Not just GUESS and HOPE.

    Lastly she has all the tools to get you. You have nothing !

  • Survivors want 100% control of the chase like they have vs M1 killers. They want the control to be in their hands, and the killers chances to rely on their mistakes. Any killer that gives the killer player an equal chance and they don't like it. It's pure entitlement.

    Let them nerf Spirit though. Go ahead do it. Survivor queues are bad enough right now, guess what happens when you gut the most popular killer? enjoy your 20 minute queue times survivors.

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    Survivors want 100% control of the chase like they have vs M1 killers. They want the control to be in their hands, and the killers chances to rely on their mistakes. Any killer that gives the killer player an equal chance and they don't like it. It's pure entitlement.

    Let them nerf Spirit though. Go ahead do it. Survivor queues are bad enough right now, guess what happens when you gut the most popular killer? enjoy your 20 minute queue times survivors.


    Survivors want to not get BTFO'd because they have no options. For whatever reason people (killer mains) don't understand that, yet complain endlessly when they have to deal with nonstop Decisive Strikes, Unbreakable and Flashlight spam. The more reasonable options Survivors have to actually attempt a risky outplay or make an impactful decision based on immediate information, the less complaints and the justifications for these annoying perks there will be.

  • Check yui kimura perk for not leaving blood or just no mither

  • @Blueberry said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1879439#Comment_1879439

    Spirit would be trash then.

    If you took away Stridor during phasing you are forcing her to completely guess the survivors location. Like literally...guessing...I don't mean figuratively. Good survivors aren't dumb running in a nice little scratch mark line for you to follow. 90% of her reads are by sound and you're saying to remove that. She would then have zero information to use in locating the survivor in a chase other than guessing.

    Spirit is currently outplayable even with good headphones. The problem is you're trying to outplay her wrong. Yeah, she can hear you, that's why you take advantage of that and manipulate what she's hearing to give her the wrong read.

    You really dont need Stridor with Spirit, unless you truly need your hand to be held THAT hard.

  • maybe use a headset they already kinda nerfed her so i dont get whats the big deal survivors can easily track where you are coming from so gen grabs rarely happen

  • You can tell from her animations being interrupted as well as her hair when she leaves the husk, but very few believe me or even try to see.

    Now knowing this and playing with it, makes it easier to face her aswell as give a muuuch higher chance at winning fakes. I think they should just make this a feature if it's a bug, (btw its been there pretty much since the start) to at least make it more obvious to others not paying attention. This will not nerf her to the ground, but it give the survivors a bit more opportunity.


    "I'm tired of having to suicide on hooks" You are part of her problem.

    Wanna know what will make anything seem op? When at least 1 survivor dcs/suicides because of what they're facing. Yes maam, that will make most of her games seem terrible so thank you to the people who are too afraid to play against her.

  • @Karen_with_baby said:

    Check yui kimura perk for not leaving blood or just no mither

    LMFAO !

    Waste 2 slots to try counterplay a killer ! Nice experience.

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    Survivors want 100% control of the chase like they have vs M1 killers. They want the control to be in their hands, and the killers chances to rely on their mistakes. Any killer that gives the killer player an equal chance and they don't like it. It's pure entitlement.

    Let them nerf Spirit though. Go ahead do it. Survivor queues are bad enough right now, guess what happens when you gut the most popular killer? enjoy your 20 minute queue times survivors.

    Well you must pay for your own mistakes, don't you ?

  • @Shroompy said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1879444#Comment_1879444

    You really dont need Stridor with Spirit, unless you truly need your hand to be held THAT hard.


    I will try to manipulate the sound, I will play the flute around the map.

  • Sounds like you are waiting at the gen for to long. Spirit counter is about taking action as soon as you are aware of her. Her design gives you huge warning cues which is only negated if you ignore your window. Yes she is good at tracking, especially with certain perks, but it's still a person that can be fooled or outplayed.

  • @Karen_with_baby said:

    Check yui kimura perk for not leaving blood or just no mither

    Fun fact, unless the Spirit is running Father's Glasses (iri addon), she can't see your blood while phasing. That makes anti bleeding perks less useful vs Spirit. You'd be better off with Dance With Me, Deception, Poised, Distortion, and maybe even Lightweight because they mess with your scratch marks.

  • @rafajsp said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1880926#Comment_1880926

    Good luck trying to abuse a main spirit you will be down before reach the pallet bro (I'm NOT talking about mediocre ones).

    • Billy ( lot of fun ).
    • Nurse ( lot of fun ).
    • Bubba ( hilarious even if it's insidious base Bubba god i cry LOL ).
    • Wraith ( lot of fun, trying to outplay with smart chases and bodyblocks from Wraith denied lot of fun ).
    • Demo ( amazing fun chases ).

    Against Spirit ( pre-drop a pallet and hope she is not on the other side already ... if you ever reach that pallet). Vault and hope again.

    What's the point ?

    We want to defend ourselves, mindgame and sometimes get out along with all hours we put in the game and experience.

    Not just GUESS and HOPE.

    Lastly she has all the tools to get you. You have nothing !

    good think I don't play spirit

    and play a variety of those listed except substitute wraith for blight because hes boring

  • @ulquiorra_cifer said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1879444#Comment_1879444

    Spirit with good headphones is outplayable, yes, but taking away stridor wouldn't make her trash. I 4k all the time with her, and I don't even HAVE stridor on her. You can listen for footsteps, see grass move, hear fast, AND slow vaults. Stridor is just something that most spirits use to make up for their lack of skill with her.

    That i was talking about. She has all and survivor has lucky which don't need hours into game practicing.

    Yes sometimes i can outplay Spirit but at the same time i feel like "what i did ?"

  • @Wiliam_Bill_Overbeck said:

    I'm tired of having to suicide on hooks because there's no counterplay to a spirit running stridor, because ironwill no longer works then, walking doesn't work either. I've tried the scratch mark tricks and everything, man this is getting to the point I'm gonna quit this game if she doesn't get SOME kind of counter-play.

    So BHVR should change something because you cant learn something? What? That's like saying nerf survivor movement speed because I get looped. You don't need Iron Will to effectively evade her, because that's all your going to do if she really wants to get you. Learn to be more unpredictable, learn to get inside a killers head. But wait that takes practice, like learning how survivors loop and attempt to misdirect the Killer. It takes time, and practice. Not just brain dead run to pallet, drop pallet, teabag, apply flashlight. You are too conditioned to the same strategies, so when you get something different that you refuse to actually learn you cry out.

    The best survivors know they are going to go down, but they make damn sure that you spent ever last extra second the could milk outta you before they do.

  • Just don't die 4head ez solution

  • Take Lithe, Dance with Me, and Quick and Quiet. Hop over a window and run away, the spirit will have no idea where you are.

  • Watch a tournament or two and see what those survivors do against her. They practice for hours on end against Spirit alone. Contrary to popular belief, you can tell when she's phasing by her husk, and it's not the shards. Her left arm has a specific animation when she starts charging.

  • @Wiliam_Bill_Overbeck said:

    I'm tired of having to suicide on hooks because there's no counterplay to a spirit running stridor, because ironwill no longer works then, walking doesn't work either. I've tried the scratch mark tricks and everything, man this is getting to the point I'm gonna quit this game if she doesn't get SOME kind of counter-play.

    Yea, spirit, deathslinger, and pyramid head all have the same boring playstyle of a guessing game. If you put a lot of time into the game you will come to realize all that work and skill you learned doesn't help you if you play against "good" ones. I am a killer main and I think playing as and playing against these killers are very boring. Your knowledge of map layout, windows,pallets won't help you against these killers and it sucks.

  • @Diet_Boi said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/220133/no-joke-can-we-add-counter-play-to-the-spirit-please

    Yea, spirit, deathslinger, and pyramid head all have the same boring playstyle of a guessing game. If you put a lot of time into the game you will come to realize all that work and skill you learned doesn't help you if you play against "good" ones. I am a killer main and I think playing as and playing against these killers are very boring. Your knowledge of map layout, windows,pallets won't help you against these killers and it sucks.

    As opposed to the boring playstyle of looping until you drop a pallet and run away to the next loop spot and repeat over and over.

  • @Liqhtninq said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1884895#Comment_1884895

    As opposed to the boring playstyle of looping until you drop a pallet and run away to the next loop spot and repeat over and over.

    That is what the game has to offer yes, the source of survival is windows and pallets, I'm mainly talking about the guessing game aspect where you have to make a guess and hope it works instead of using the skill you've obtained over time.

  • After I played against one on Midwich I checked the vod to see what my actions looked like from the Spirit's point of view. And honestly, excluding Father's Glasses which is crazy broken, I think she would be decently fair if Stridor didn't work during phasing.

    I was playing Kate (who is on the more quiet half of survivors when injured) without Iron Will and you basically had to be deaf to not know exactly where I was at at any given moment during phase due to how loud Stridor was making her.

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