Survivors should get points when teammates DC

Hellrossa

Ok so, 1st guy got grabbed within 10sec and DC right away. Second guy got hooked, unhooked, grab and DC. Third guy got caught and DC .All within 1 minute. 

I was alone with 4 gens (I did the first one). Could do one more but lost afterward. 

I feel like I should have earn points for their DC

What do you think of it?

Master

Hell no, no rewards for DCing. We need to REDUCE it by punishing it, not give additional incentive to give SWF mates extra BP

Vietfox

Master said:

Hell no, no rewards for DCing. We need to REDUCE it by punishing it, not give additional incentive to give SWF mates extra BP

Wouldnt be a reward for dcing, would be a reward for survivors who keep playing despite the fact that other survivors dced.

jwentzel987

This would be nice. I'm tired of almost every game consisting of some butthurt survivor who cant accept the fact he/she got hooked or is going to die. 

Giche

@jwentzel987 said:
This would be nice. I'm tired of almost every game consisting of some butthurt survivor who cant accept the fact he/she got hooked or is going to die. 

Why not punishing him instead ?

jwentzel987

Giche said:

@jwentzel987 said:
This would be nice. I'm tired of almost every game consisting of some butthurt survivor who cant accept the fact he/she got hooked or is going to die. 

Why not punishing him instead ?

They should punish anyone who DCs. Anyone who deliberately DCs should lose their in game items as well as blood points and depip. The people still playing should be granted some incentive in current match. Killer DCs and survivors dont get anything. That's pretty ridiculous too.

Hellrossa

Giche said:

@jwentzel987 said:
This would be nice. I'm tired of almost every game consisting of some butthurt survivor who cant accept the fact he/she got hooked or is going to die. 

Why not punishing him instead ?

Both

Orion

@jwentzel987 said:
They should punish anyone who DCs. Anyone who deliberately DCs should lose their in game items as well as blood points and depip. The people still playing should be granted some incentive in current match. Killer DCs and survivors dont get anything. That's pretty ridiculous too.

By punishing DCers, the incentive would come from not being punished.

Survivors do get stuff when Killers DC, and a lot more than Killers get.

Giche

@jwentzel987 said:

They should punish anyone who DCs. Anyone who deliberately DCs should lose their in game items as well as blood points and depip.

It is already the case and it's not enought.

The people still playing should be granted some incentive in current match. Killer DCs and survivors dont get anything. That's pretty ridiculous too.

Survivors get all their earned points + 5000 bonus bps for escaping, while keeping their items and a black pip when the killer DC.

The killer lose Bps, Pip and addons (always in that last case)

Killer get (and not always) barely 700 bps for a survivor DC'ing, while screwing his game and the others survivors's game.

Only offerings and killer's addon are always consumed.

I really don't get the mindset behind giving compensation for someone else's bad behaviors while keeping him untouched. And as said by someone else it will be highly exploitable by SWF party.

Punishment for DC'ing should be harsher for both side, period.

It litteraly plague the game and can get a killer gutted 1 week after his release.

jwentzel987

Orion said:

@jwentzel987 said:
They should punish anyone who DCs. Anyone who deliberately DCs should lose their in game items as well as blood points and depip. The people still playing should be granted some incentive in current match. Killer DCs and survivors dont get anything. That's pretty ridiculous too.

By punishing DCers, the incentive would come from not being punished.

Survivors do get stuff when Killers DC, and a lot more than Killers get.

What does a survivor get when killer DCs ? Because every time that happens I get close to nothing. I get to keep my items and add ons...if you keep DC from a game you need to be punished. Its annoying as hell to have several survivors just DC because of getting caught or hooked. Its part of the game. It comes with the territory. People who constantly DC should be banned for X amount of time and if they keep DC after their previous ban then proceed to further action. Basically a 3 strikes you're out system. 

1. DC from x amount of games then you are banned for at least 1 hour from gameplay. 1 hour is finished you can replay but if you DC again you are automatically banned for another hour. 

2. If after strike 1 you DC again then you are banned for 48 hours. After 48 hours you can replay the game. 

3. If after strike 2 you DC again then you are banned for a week. After 1 week you can replay the game and if you DC again well I guess you ahouldnt be playing the game and should be permabanned.

AmorePrincess

If killer just closes the game, not pushing the leave option, survivors get nothing at all. Just saying, not all killers leave the right way. 

But yes, I can barely count on one hand the matches in a day when no survivor dc. And today has been the worst. 2-3 manning every group, and when they all stay, the killer leaves if he cant 4k. It has been a terrible day on ps4. 

Giche

@AmorePrincess said:
If killer just closes the game, not pushing the leave option, survivors get nothing at all. Just saying, not all killers leave the right way. 

But yes, I can barely count on one hand the matches in a day when no survivor dc. And today has been the worst. 2-3 manning every group, and when they all stay, the killer leaves if he cant 4k. It has been a terrible day on ps4. 

Yes i know, and there's an equivalent pulled by survivors so the killer didn't get anything either.

Both way are also plaguing the game since his release and devs never bothered to fix it.

I assure you that wasn't caused by a lack of feedback.

HellDescent

@Hellrossa said:
Ok so, 1st guy got grabbed within 10sec and DC right away. Second guy got hooked, unhooked, grab and DC. Third guy got caught and DC .All within 1 minute. 

I was alone with 4 gens (I did the first one). Could do one more but lost afterward. 

I feel like I should have earn points for their DC

What do you think of it?

SWF groups will start farming.

AmorePrincess

Giche said:

@AmorePrincess said:
If killer just closes the game, not pushing the leave option, survivors get nothing at all. Just saying, not all killers leave the right way. 

But yes, I can barely count on one hand the matches in a day when no survivor dc. And today has been the worst. 2-3 manning every group, and when they all stay, the killer leaves if he cant 4k. It has been a terrible day on ps4. 

Yes i know, and there's an equivalent pulled by survivors so the killer didn't get anything either.

Both way are also plaguing the game since his release and devs never bothered to fix it.

I assure you that wasn't caused by a lack of feedback.

I believe you. And I play killer alot too, and I know how it is when one after another just leave. The players who stick it out, no matter if you get only one kill or not, if you get downed and camped in the first minute, they get screwed over by the ones who leaves because the game doesnt go their way. 

People just need to realize that we cant win every time, and this is not like other games, because we are not supposed to win every game either. No killer can get every kill every game, and no survivor can escape, or get to play the full match. 
And I really love this game, but this is the main thing that really is a problem for both sides, that should have a priority to fix, because there needs to be a punishment, it is getting worse. I know that the balance needs to be fixed, but this is a technical thing, that, as you say, has been around for a long time, even though the feedback on the problem was there.

Tsulan

@Vietfox said:
Master said:

Hell no, no rewards for DCing. We need to REDUCE it by punishing it, not give additional incentive to give SWF mates extra BP

Wouldnt be a reward for dcing, would be a reward for survivors who keep playing despite the fact that other survivors dced.

SWF would dc to give their friends bonus points.
DC sucks for everyone. They need to increase the punishment.

Mister_Holdout

Why should survivors be rewarded for doing nothing?

Vietfox

Tsulan said:

@Vietfox said:
Master said:

Hell no, no rewards for DCing. We need to REDUCE it by punishing it, not give additional incentive to give SWF mates extra BP

Wouldnt be a reward for dcing, would be a reward for survivors who keep playing despite the fact that other survivors dced.

SWF would dc to give their friends bonus points.
DC sucks for everyone. They need to increase the punishment.

Dont you think it would be the most tedious way to farm? I mean, just 1 or 2 would get those extra bps and then wait for the lobby, loading screen and stuff.

Tsulan

@Vietfox said:
Tsulan said:

@Vietfox said:

Master said:

Hell no, no rewards for DCing. We need to REDUCE it by punishing it, not give additional incentive to give SWF mates extra BP

Wouldnt be a reward for dcing, would be a reward for survivors who keep playing despite the fact that other survivors dced.

SWF would dc to give their friends bonus points.

DC sucks for everyone. They need to increase the punishment.

Dont you think it would be the most tedious way to farm? I mean, just 1 or 2 would get those extra bps and then wait for the lobby, loading screen and stuff.

I don´t question the logic behind swf teams that dc.
I had people loop me for several gens and dc when i down them. There is no logic behind all this. But people do it, and if you give others BPs for dcs, then they´ll abuse it.

jwentzel987

Mister_Holdout said:

Why should survivors be rewarded for doing nothing?

What exactly do you mean by doing nothing? Doing gens, cleanse totems, unhook other survivors, escape a killer if chased, distractions, unlocking the gate, not dying...those are all part of a survivors routine. If the killer DC the survivor should be rewarded. If another survivor DC there should  be an award to the killer (which there is but should be more imo). Its not like survivors stand around doing literally nothing the whole game unless theyre a complete asshat or are too afraid to make a move which in that case shouldnt be playing the game..

MegaWaffle

@Vietfox said:
Master said:

Hell no, no rewards for DCing. We need to REDUCE it by punishing it, not give additional incentive to give SWF mates extra BP

Wouldnt be a reward for dcing, would be a reward for survivors who keep playing despite the fact that other survivors dced.

To easy to abuse. Lots of people DC right before they get hooked (death hook) or right before the hook timer expires meaning SWF groups could just exploit this to boost friends.

redsopine1

I know the pain once had a entire swf group (3people dc and I was tempted to let the survivor go but nah insta hatchet in the face and a hook if I could have apologised I would have)

Master

@Vietfox said:
Tsulan said:

@Vietfox said:

Master said:

Hell no, no rewards for DCing. We need to REDUCE it by punishing it, not give additional incentive to give SWF mates extra BP

Wouldnt be a reward for dcing, would be a reward for survivors who keep playing despite the fact that other survivors dced.

SWF would dc to give their friends bonus points.

DC sucks for everyone. They need to increase the punishment.

Dont you think it would be the most tedious way to farm? I mean, just 1 or 2 would get those extra bps and then wait for the lobby, loading screen and stuff.

SWF DC regularly againt tactics they dont like even though they have to remake lobby and all that stuff

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Vietfox

MegaWaffle said:

@Vietfox said:
Master said:

Hell no, no rewards for DCing. We need to REDUCE it by punishing it, not give additional incentive to give SWF mates extra BP

Wouldnt be a reward for dcing, would be a reward for survivors who keep playing despite the fact that other survivors dced.

To easy to abuse. Lots of people DC right before they get hooked (death hook) or right before the hook timer expires meaning SWF groups could just exploit this to boost friends.

What about this? People who intentionally DC (i.e. clicking on "leave match") automatically gives away some of their BPs from the pool to the rest of them. This way would lose BPs instead of adding 0.

Hellrossa

@Vietfox said:
MegaWaffle said:

@Vietfox said:

Master said:

Hell no, no rewards for DCing. We need to REDUCE it by punishing it, not give additional incentive to give SWF mates extra BP

Wouldnt be a reward for dcing, would be a reward for survivors who keep playing despite the fact that other survivors dced.

To easy to abuse. Lots of people DC right before they get hooked (death hook) or right before the hook timer expires meaning SWF groups could just exploit this to boost friends.

What about this? People who intentionally DC (i.e. clicking on "leave match") automatically gives away some of their BPs from the pool to the rest of them. This way would lose BPs instead of adding 0.

Interesting idea, I wonder if it would be tricky to make it on the dev side

Peasant

I just had the craziest idea folks. How about you earn your bloodpoints, by playing the game? I understand that difficulty rises if a person DCs at the start. However, killers on average lose far more points than survivors do if a survivor disconnects. They get a pathetic 625 bp for 1 disconnection. The standard 3 hooks alone is worth 1500bp, not mentioning the lost BBQ & Chili token and the hunting and brutality points for the chase(s). Then there are the other perks that get screwed when the Obsession DCs, etc.
I agree, survivors should get some compensation, but something on par with killers. So if a killer gets 625 for 1 disconnection, then a single survivor disconnection should take that 625 and break it into shares for whoever is left. This would mean that if all three allies ditched you'd still get 1147 bp. It's fair compensation while also being nothing to write home about.