The hillbilly changes are not being reverted

And if you've been here for more than 2 years you know it damn well. At max they'll change a couple of numbers here and there, but all this bullsh‎it is going live.

Why?

Why don't you listen to the community for the love of god? I mean when you see actual red rank survivors saying this nerf gutted him you should realized by now you've done something wrong.

Why are we getting changes we didn't ask for majorly? It's like a dev had a bad match against a billy and he just said f‎uck it.

We were asking for a LOT for a while and we're just getting random changes

• FIX MATCHMAKING PLEASE

• Iri heads (Just make them like slinger 15m, please don't touch bunny like billy)

• Some sort of spirit counterplay (Louder footsteps, removing the amulet+ring bulls‎hit, etc..)

• Some sort of method to communicate in frustrating solo queue (More emotes, quick chat messages, anything...)

• Fix the sounds for killer (very often dying survivors completely silent, and also sounds from all over the map play at once?) It's a mess

• Keys, ebony moris (and i swear if someone argues they're fair below)

• Trapper & wraith buffs, your 2 oldest killers (Make the extra 1 trap carrying base-kit, Make yellow windstorm/bone clapper base-kit)

• GRABS

• Some dev communication in the feedback section, the last dev reply there was over 2 months back.


Why the hell is everything new you add so complicated? Just perks and add-ons with twice the requirements than benefits.

Moderate charge time reduction to become a 110% killer?

Chainsaw through pallets that are just gonna get dodged, and oh, you're speed limiter now.

A 0.2m/s increase when a flashlight is shining on you is useless, and if you play the game you would know it since a survivor flashing you is NEVER gonna be moving. If he moves he does it at like 15% speed.


Oh well, I guess we ungrateful little shi‎ts just don't understand new Hillbilly's "Full Potential" and are just gonna get brushed off.

Comments

  • @slim0b said:

    And if you've been here for more than 2 years you know it damn well. At max they'll change a couple of numbers here and there, but all this bullsh‎it is going live.

    Why?

    Why don't you listen to the community for the love of god? I mean when you see actual red rank survivors saying this nerf gutted him you should realized by now you've done something wrong.

    Why are we getting changes we didn't ask for majorly? It's like a dev had a bad match against a billy and he just said f‎uck it.

    We were asking for a LOT for a while and we're just getting random changes

    • FIX MATCHMAKING PLEASE

    • Iri heads (Just make them like slinger 15m, please don't touch bunny like billy)

    • Some sort of spirit counterplay (Louder footsteps, removing the amulet+ring bulls‎hit, etc..)

    • Some sort of method to communicate in frustrating solo queue (More emotes, quick chat messages, anything...)

    • Fix the sounds for killer (very often dying survivors completely silent, and also sounds from all over the map play at once?) It's a mess

    • Keys, ebony moris (and i swear if someone argues they're fair below)

    • Trapper & wraith buffs, your 2 oldest killers (Make the extra 1 trap carrying base-kit, Make yellow windstorm/bone clapper base-kit)

    • GRABS

    • Some dev communication in the feedback section, the last dev reply there was over 2 months back.

    Why the hell is everything new you add so complicated? Just perks and add-ons with twice the requirements than benefits.

    Moderate charge time reduction to become a 110% killer?

    Chainsaw through pallets that are just gonna get dodged, and oh, you're speed limiter now.

    A 0.2m/s increase when a flashlight is shining on you is useless, and if you play the game you would know it since a survivor flashing you is NEVER gonna be moving. If he moves he does it at like 15% speed.

    Oh well, I guess we ungrateful little shi‎ts just don't understand new Hillbilly's "Full Potential" and are just gonna get brushed off.

    It's dark times for a billy main, hes almost as bad as the old freddy now

  • Devs: Nerf Hillbilly

    Devs 2 years from now: People just haven’t discovered Billy’s full potential

  • @slim0b said:

    And if you've been here for more than 2 years you know it damn well. At max they'll change a couple of numbers here and there, but all this bullsh‎it is going live.

    Why?

    Why don't you listen to the community for the love of god? I mean when you see actual red rank survivors saying this nerf gutted him you should realized by now you've done something wrong.

    Why are we getting changes we didn't ask for majorly? It's like a dev had a bad match against a billy and he just said f‎uck it.

    We were asking for a LOT for a while and we're just getting random changes

    • FIX MATCHMAKING PLEASE

    • Iri heads (Just make them like slinger 15m, please don't touch bunny like billy)

    • Some sort of spirit counterplay (Louder footsteps, removing the amulet+ring bulls‎hit, etc..)

    • Some sort of method to communicate in frustrating solo queue (More emotes, quick chat messages, anything...)

    • Fix the sounds for killer (very often dying survivors completely silent, and also sounds from all over the map play at once?) It's a mess

    • Keys, ebony moris (and i swear if someone argues they're fair below)

    • Trapper & wraith buffs, your 2 oldest killers (Make the extra 1 trap carrying base-kit, Make yellow windstorm/bone clapper base-kit)

    • GRABS

    • Some dev communication in the feedback section, the last dev reply there was over 2 months back.

    Why the hell is everything new you add so complicated? Just perks and add-ons with twice the requirements than benefits.

    Moderate charge time reduction to become a 110% killer?

    Chainsaw through pallets that are just gonna get dodged, and oh, you're speed limiter now.

    A 0.2m/s increase when a flashlight is shining on you is useless, and if you play the game you would know it since a survivor flashing you is NEVER gonna be moving. If he moves he does it at like 15% speed.

    Oh well, I guess we ungrateful little shi‎ts just don't understand new Hillbilly's "Full Potential" and are just gonna get brushed off.

    Well the balancing team thanks you for your input and you make a lot of great points but we feel what the community most wants is

    *shakes magic 8 ball vigorously*

    spirit buffed and wraith nerfed

  • @Speshul_Kitten said:

    Devs: Nerf Hillbilly

    Devs 2 years from now: People just haven’t discovered Billy’s full potential

    It's so sad how deluded they're becoming. Back in the day they would at least acknowledge some of the backlash but nowadays it's just "haha you just don't know how to play them!"

    Sure buddy, streamers with 5000+ hours saying a killer is weak means absolutely nothing, in fact, YOU are the ONLY PLAYER in the world who can so ofc in your eyes it's a super strong OP killer! There are some amazing and VERY talented and hardworking people at BHVR, great community managers, designers, creators, and all of that down the drain because the balance team is playing some other game that's definitely not DBD.

  • I think this clip explains what I mean in terms of devs having their own "unique" prospective

    https://youtu.be/7QW6_qIooyU?t=300

    Someone asks "When's clown getting changes?"

    The dev says "After playing him I think he's very underrated and his power is very well-hidden"

    I'm just speechless.

  • @slim0b said:

    I think this clip explains what I mean in terms of devs having their own "unique" prospective

    https://youtu.be/7QW6_qIooyU?t=300

    Someone asks "When's clown getting changes?"

    The dev says "After playing him I think he's very underrated and his power is very well-hidden"

    I'm just speechless.

    He probably played against brown ranks.

  • @slim0b said:

    I think this clip explains what I mean in terms of devs having their own "unique" prospective

    https://youtu.be/7QW6_qIooyU?t=300

    Someone asks "When's clown getting changes?"

    The dev says "After playing him I think he's very underrated and his power is very well-hidden"

    I'm just speechless.

    If "they" are happy with the current state of something, they won't make any more changes to that something. I can't remember who said it but when asked about the ruin change they said that they were happy with the changing "after looking at the data". Someone might vaguely remember the comment.

    This is mainly how BHVR is making their balancing decisions. So if the data says Billy is doing fine in this ptb they're probably going to be released to live with minor, if any, changes.

  • @ALostPuppy said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1436840#Comment_1436840

    If "they" are happy with the current state of something, they won't make any more changes to that something. I can't remember who said it but when asked about the ruin change they said that they were happy with the changing "after looking at the data". Someone might vaguely remember the comment.

    This is mainly how BHVR is making their balancing decisions. So if the data says Billy is doing fine in this ptb they're probably going to be released to live with minor, if any, changes.

    The funny thing is, like with ruin they'll look at hillbilly pick rates, see they've decreased tremendously and say "We're pretty happy with what we've achieved."

    But that's not because "made him balanced", no not at all. It's cause you made him unplayable.

  • @slim0b said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1437185#Comment_1437185

    The funny thing is, like with ruin they'll look at hillbilly pick rates, see they've decreased tremendously and say "We're pretty happy with what we've achieved."

    But that's not because "made him balanced", no not at all. It's cause you made him unplayable.

    This ^

  • If i was a Billy main i'd probably uninstall the game when these changes go through. Totally pointless and needless change when all he needed was a couple of addons reworked, thats it.

    I thought Billy was one of the most balanced killers in the game. Im a survivor main but i feel sorry for the players who main Billy. Hope hes still usable if you hang around.