Pig players, could Whispers 2 be better than 3

A petty popular Pig combo is MA with whispers so you can crouch before the survivors hear you. I keep thinking if you just had the 40 meter radius of Whispers 2 you could save the spot on MA. Of course this means you’ll have to move farther while crouched so you’d be slower but maybe the trade off is worth it?

Comments

  • Nope. 40 meters is way too big.

  • @Alice_pbg said:

    Nope. 40 meters is way too big.

    I figured there was a reason no one did, I guessed it was the range thanks

  • @johnmwarner said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1349201#Comment_1349201

    I figured there was a reason no one did, I guessed it was the range thanks

    Yea, at a movement rate of 3.68 meters per second needing to crouch whenever you're within 40 meters of someone can eat a lotta time.

    Honestly, even M&A + Tier 3 Whispers for being sneaky is a bit of waste IMO; just because of how many people can counter you with Sprint Burst or Spine Chill.

  • @TheRockstarKnight said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1349232#Comment_1349232

    Yea, at a movement rate of 3.68 meters per second needing to crouch whenever you're within 40 meters of someone can eat a lotta time.

    Honestly, even M&A + Tier 3 Whispers for being sneaky is a bit of waste IMO; just because of how many people can counter you with Sprint Burst or Spine Chill.

    honestly spine chill shouldn't work while in undetectable statue, like.. you're suppose to be undetectable..why does this perk still work?

  • @BlazeNightash said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1349480#Comment_1349480

    honestly spine chill shouldn't work while in undetectable statue, like.. you're suppose to be undetectable..why does this perk still work?

    Same reason DS works when they hop on a gen... 🤷‍♂️

  • @ThisGuuy83 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1349484#Comment_1349484

    Same reason DS works when they hop on a gen... 🤷‍♂️

    thats almost the issue i had with ds, i feel like if you're going to blatantly do a gen in front of the killer cause you have ds then that ######### should expire, thats the problem with alot of these 2nd chance perks, you can do more than it leads on about the perk. BT block the killer from the guy who unhooked you, unbreakable same ######### get downed while unhooking other guy taunts the killer with bt and runs off leaving the guy on the ground to freely get up. theres to much toxicity around these perks and they really need more conditions to them. that or limit them to not being able to be all used together no reason all 3 of those perks should be allowed in your kit

  • @BlazeNightash said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1349480#Comment_1349480

    honestly spine chill shouldn't work while in undetectable statue, like.. you're suppose to be undetectable..why does this perk still work?

    It is literally the only thing that works against Undetectable.


    As for the OP's question, here's a bit of maths to show why people prefer Whispers 3. Base TR is 32m, with M&A reducing it to 24m. You have an 8m window with Whispers 3 or a 16m window with Whispers 3 and your walking speed is reduced in crouch, so the extra distance means a fair bit more time.

    I personally don't like the combo and like TR baiting for mindgames, but that's just me.

  • @BlazeNightash said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1349480#Comment_1349480

    honestly spine chill shouldn't work while in undetectable statue, like.. you're suppose to be undetectable..why does this perk still work?

    Tbf, if Spine Chill didn't work on Undetectable Killers it'd be pretty pointless itself.

    Why use a perk to counter stealth if it doesn't counter stealth? It'd only be good for the vaulting build and being Oblivious.

    I will say that I think Spine Chill shouldn't work on Michael Myers; since he can only leave Tier 1 by looking at Survivors and he already moves at a massively decreased speed (and has a smallwe than average lunge) to balance out his Stealth.

    I'm with Spine Chill working on everyone else though. There are ways to work around it if you suspect Survivors have it on everyone but Michael.

  • Still... Guessing where survivors are within 40m is hard enough... M&A is useful for FOV changes and a slightly better odds of sneaking up on survivors

    At 32m it makes it better to know where survivors are