Leatherface toxicity

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Why is it that 9.9 times out of 10 every single leatherface is toxic and facecamps/tunnels survivors all game? Is it a psychological condition where everyone who plays him channels his personality in the film and is simply #########? Genuine question.

Johnny_XMan

Because they couldn’t pull it off with any other killer.

I’ve seen REALLY good Bubba players. You’d be surprised how many of them actually don’t camp and still get 4ks.

Dead_by_Gadfly

@Barlor said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1344686#Comment_1344686

Also quick maths as stated on DBD wiki:

Solo gen - 80sec (without TB)

Being hooked - 60 sec each phase (120 sec total)

So at best we're having 3 people capable of doing gens. Let's consider best case scenario, which is all 3 standing at gens at the moment of 4th guy being hooked. You're getting full 3 gens, and 40sec left. Again, best case,during those 40sec you all meet at 4th gen, take into consideration time needed to get to that gen. At very best you're having 4gens done by the moment camped one dies. But let's be real, it's rarely gonna best case. More probably some survs will check whether it's possible to save that guy, spend time on looking for gens and such.

Dont for get AT LEAST 1 gen popped by the time that first guy got hooked, possibly 2. If 1 isnt done its damn close.

BubbaMain64

If you're not a face camping bubba you're just not playing right. It's literally illegal to NOT face camp as bubba and also nod when you down a survivor.

BlazeNightash

generally its actually very hindering for the killer to facecamp first hook especially, You can burn though almost every gen by the time they die on that hook, However alot of players are dumb and will just sit waiting to save instead of doing gens effectively making this strategy work, so ya the killer gets one kill but if you rush all the gens and get out by the time they die then who cares move on, stop being dumb about it and rush the gens. Facecamping is a bad strategy but dumb survs make it a good one. and while i do hate facecamping myself if the devs truely wanna fix the issue then they would make it so that you lose bps per 10 secs around the hook instead of rank points because noone really gives a ######### about their rank but they sure as well do about their bps

Barlor

@BlazeNightash said:

generally its actually very hindering for the killer to facecamp first hook especially, You can burn though almost every gen by the time they die on that hook, However alot of players are dumb and will just sit waiting to save instead of doing gens effectively making this strategy work, so ya the killer gets one kill but if you rush all the gens and get out by the time they die then who cares move on, stop being dumb about it and rush the gens. Facecamping is a bad strategy but dumb survs make it a good one. and while i do hate facecamping myself if the devs truely wanna fix the issue then they would make it so that you lose bps per 10 secs around the hook instead of rank points because noone really gives a ######### about their rank but they sure as well do about their bps

I agree that the only counter to face camping Bubba is to do gens instead of trying to save camped one, but again, facecamping completely removes that one's guy any possibility to play the game. And I still stand my point that calling facecamping legit strategy is ridiculous (other than in EGC, what I mentioned earlier or some survivor bm'd hard and you want to release your frustration on him for that or something). Worst case for face-camper is securing only one kill. But why should he care, he managed to kill someone, so he technically won against that guy right?

Imo playing to win by all means mentality is what leads to such sweaty/bad "tactics". There isn't actually any reward to tryhard and climb the ranking ladder other than steam achievement and ranks honestly in such matchmaking's state mean nothing (I had like 6-7rank playing very casually as survs, for killers it's bit harder to pip I think (I may be wrong) but I still was 8 or so without long grinding). I honestly don't understand what is there to enjoy, when what you do all game is sitting next to hooked guy and play waiting simulator. Where is the fun of mind games, chasing, ambushing and all well, actually playing game?

TunnelVision

Not all Leatherface's camp!

I love playing Leatherface but i don't actively camp unless you're a bell and deserve it. I had a game this morning where a red rank chased me giving the clicky clicky desperate for me to chase him, flashing and tea bagging behind pallets. Needless to say once he was downed; he got face camped. His SWF not wanting to leave a man behind all decided to hook swarm a camping Leatherface with a charged up chainsaw.... 3 downs from one chainsaw. This person then decides to message me every insult under the sun. My reply was along the lines of, you wanted attention; you got attention. I even stayed with you until the bitter end.

I don't like doing it but i'm certainly not sorry for it.

BlazeNightash

@Hex_Generator said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1345534#Comment_1345534

Funny; I play the game, and I see it as a game. I just don't see camping and tunneling as 'unfair' or in need of a punishment.

I could very easily say the same about people who complain about camping and tunneling: 'This is the type of stuff you say if you don"t play the game , or maybe you don't see it as a " game " '. You believe that anything 'not fun' should be removed or punished, while failing to realize that losing is not fun.

You also fail to realize that, if the devs removed or punished everything Survivors claim is 'not fun' or 'boring' or 'toxic gameplay', then Killers would no longer be able to hit Survivors or hook them.

All Survivors would be able to stand back up on their own as base kit (because being slugged is not fun).

Wriggling would be 50% more effective (because some Survivors have claimed the meter is useless), and thus hooking someone would be almost impossible.

Killers would lose their BP, be slowed, have slower attacks, and be teleported away from the hook for 'camping'. Never mind that WHAT camping is varies from person to person. Or there would be a little 'No Killer Zone' around hooks that Survivors would abuse.

Kicking gens? That would be removed. It's not fun to get a gen to 99%, be chased away, and have it kicked and camped.

No more locker grabs, because it's not fun to use a locker to hide, only to be found on a random search.

All insta-down Killers & Add-Ons removed; It's not fun to be downed in one hit, and avoids the 2 hit system.

Freddy removed, because it's not fun to have the gens go slower. Survivors want to bang them out in under 5 minutes!

Jumping off hooks is now 100% successful, because it's not fun to be left to die by Survivors who don't care if teammates outside their SWF go down.

You see now how 'it's not fun' is a child's argument, completely devoid of any actual merit?

Except doing all that other #########, slugging for example are good for trying to get ahead where facecamping is not especially on first hooks, it’s actually a very bad one and can easily lose you the game more often that not especially at higher ranks, sure all gens done egc is in play face camp for your one kill, but first hook? That’s just being an ######### because it’s not a good way to win or even really fun for either side, and don’t say it is for killer, sitting there with one hooked surv for the entire game while gens pop left and right and everyone else leaves and you’re telling me you had fun? If you did you need some therapy cause you got a kick out of being sadistic lol which is a mental issue

BlazeNightash

@Hex_Generator said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1346010#Comment_1346010

Thanks for the personal attack and putting word sin my mouth. Thanks.

You said it yourself; camping first hook is bad for Killer. The game punishes them already by them losing. Why add anymore punishment, other than to force your opinions on what is 'allowed' on the game?

The problems comes in when the Killer hooks someone and 2-3 other Survivors hide near that hook; why should the Killer leave? He's winning and his food is coming to him. he also has no obligation to walk away from the hook just because bad Survivors want to unhook their friend.

And all these 'boo-hoo! Camping is EVUL!' threads are the same thing at the bottom; 'I want easier unhooks.' 'I want the Killer to have to walk away NOW!' 'I want to unhook on MY time! Make the Killer move.'

The bottom line is that bad Survivors swarm the hook, feed the Killer, and them scurry on here and whine about how evil camping is and how toxic it is that they fed the Killer..I mean, totally got camped. They did not get out played or make a mistake; camping is just SOOOOOO evil and OP and blah, blah blah.

To listen to Survivors complain; the game took control of their character and FORCED them to unhook in the Killer's face, because it was not their fault. They did not play bad, or make mistakes. It's clearly the Killer's fault for being toxic, and the game's fault for allowing it, and the game should hold their hand and push the Killer away from the hooks while telling them 'There now, now you can get your unhook. The mean old Killer can't touch you now.'

Camping only works when Survivors MAKE it work. If y'all would stop feeding the Killer when he has bait on the hook, we'd stop camping because it would stop WORKING.

Suck it the heck up.

it wasn't personal, take it or leave it, and yea i agree why should the killer leave the hook if survs won't leave the hook thats also fine, im just talking you're a sadistic ######### if you enjoy it all the other survs are clearly doing gens and ignoring the camp, you get pleasure out of ruining someone's game and thing is THERES ALOT of people that do, i had games where bubba camps the guy we finish all the gens and get out he gets his one and only kill that he spent chasing for a min or so and just laughs about it in end game chat saying how fun it is to camp survs and ruin their day thats the problem with first hook camping, some people are just ######### in the head. Yes survs complain about every thing a killer does but wanna bring the most meta perks and be just as toxic in game and think its fine. Camping first hook is just lame is all im trying to say but so is alot of other surv bullshit like blendettes and keys etc etc list goes on for them

DBD78

Killer can play how the like and so can survivors. It's not that hard? People are just bad losers.

If you are a killer just turn messages off and make sure survivors can't send you invites and stuff. Then you can facecamp all night long and no one will say a word about it. Nothing you will read anyway.

Hag.is.Dtier

Leatherface is the most pointless dlc ever. He's boring, garbage that you play for memes. Why was he even added when Hillbilly already exists (for the most part they're the same character).

The only thing good about this chapter is BBQ&Chilli.

Waste of ######### money. A crash grab to draw in Texas chainsaw fans. It's the same situation with Ash.

But since you put him in the game BHVR, you better be thinking of a rework because this killer is crap, boring, and a disgrace to his horror icon status.