New app like MLGA has SWF detection

Lowbei

It detects and auto closes the lobby if any SWF joins.

If they arent going to blacklist MLGA, then they cant blacklist this either.

If they have a problem with this one, then I guess refusing to blacklist a known 3rd party app that affects gameplay like MLGA was a bad call.

M2Fream

owbei said:

SenzuDuck said:

@PureHostility said:

@SenzuDuck said:
When killers can't get better and they have to use and app to dodge lobbies instead of one button, LUL.

git gud.

Didn't you mean to type

"When survivors can't get better and they have to get carried by having additional 10 perks per person while playing in a group, LUL

git gud."?

It is quite common to mistype that.

SWF teams are completely beatable - and any killer who can't or simply down right refuses to vs anything that looks remotely like SWF is a poor killer and they should practice more.

you only play swf because you are bad at solo, aka the games balanced mode.

according to the devs, the game was not balanced for swf.

you need to practice more.

Oof getem lowbei

M2Fream

Hillbilly420 said:

@Peanits said:

@Tzeentchling9 said:
If any SWF White Knights come to this thread and start mocking killers for having no friends and making claims that Survivors just want to play with their friends, I'm equiping Bond, making friends with the Killer, and leading them to the other Survivors.

Isn't playing with friends great?

And you can enjoy a spicy softban for your efforts.

Seriously, wouldn't recommend you do it, you would be banned for it.

Just like how you guys ban serial ragequitters?

Stop disrespecting Peanits!

Mr_Jay_Stark

fcc2014 said:

Just an FYI as to how much the forum has sucked in the last couple of weeks. The OP who was highly active got banned and his last topic has 2k views. Pretty good job so far MODS!

I mean are we at all surprised?! I believe it started going downhill when they were going on a mad jail spree (which if I’m correct you were included in) for no reason!

pauloandrade22

@Mc_Harty said:
SovererignKing said:You must be joking... 

Well known for using voice chat with Survivors? Are you talking about Kill Your Friends? What exactly does that have to do with SWF? The developers could implement voice chat in game for Kill Your Friends Mode. 

Omg, you're an actual idiot.

Killers can't use SWF. That was the whole point of my statement. I was mocking you for thinking I was survivor main.

And no the devs won't put voice chat in the game. Just like they won't nerf SWF specifically.

Jesus Christ, when you try to argue against a point mocking you for making assumptions. SovererignKing said:

For the love of... YOU SAID IT. “If you’re just dodging for easy matches, it’s not justified” Who the ruddy hell said it was going to be easy going up against 4 random players? Those randoms could very well stomp a Killer. Easy, hard, it doesn’t matter. SWF provides an advantage, even without voice comms, that the game was not designed or balanced around. Period. Now tell me, what’s your justification for gaining an advantage over your opponent, simply because you clicked SWF and not play solo? What’s your justification for using voice comms? Right, you have none, for either. You should NOT be getting an advantage over the opponent simply because you clicked SWF, and not play solo. 

Yeah I did say that if you're dodging for easy matches you're not justified for doing it. I said that SWF is in the game for two years now and the developers haven't done any nerfs to that group specifically.

I never said you can't dodge or that SWF is easier then solos. You said you dodge against SWF team because you find it too hard. 

So, I ask ######### are you even doing? I never made any argument about survivors being justified at all in their matches. Like what in the actual [BAD WORD] is this paragraph? SovererignKing said:

Here’s a tip : You should proof read what you type before you post. If I’m not justified in dodging lobbies for “easier games”, then you’re not justified playing SWF for “easier games” either. “Just deal with it” is basically you saying “Look, SWF gives the Survivors advantages that the game was not balanced or designed around. Deal with it.” Yeah, cause that’s what I want to play. An unbalanced and unfair game that’s stacked against me more than it’s supposed to be... because Survivor players clicked on a game mode. 

SO WHAT THE [BAD WORD] IS THE POINT OF THOSE REPLIES.

You agree with me that killers aren't justified to dodge lobbies for easy wins. And yet I don't know how to proof-read?

“Just deal with it” is basically you saying “Look, SWF gives the Survivors advantages that the game was not balanced or designed around. Deal with it.”

Yeah because that's what I said...

I never said deal with it because it's fair, but because it's part of the game for two [BAD WORD] years. I said don't be surprised if they don't do any nerfs to SWF. Like how they haven't done for nerfs for them for two years.

But please continue this is funny as #########. SovererignKing said:

Whitelisted doesn’t matter. It still provides an advantage the game was not designed for. Doesn’t mean I can’t lobby for the developers to place restrictions on SWF groups that make the game harder (like for instance and extra 20 seconds per Gen), that makes it fair. 

Again, who do you think you arguing against?

I never said that SWF are not at an advantage. I said killers aren't justified to dodge matches for easy wins.

Also it's cute that you think programs that have an affect on the game being white listed doesn't matter. Of course they do. Considering an application called Curse Voice (a voice chat program) is allowed for support for Dead By Daylight, you have no justification to dodge SWF simply because they talk to each other.

Sucks I know.

Link in case you don't believe me.
https://www.easy.ac/en-us/support/dbd/guides/whitelist/ SovererignKing said:

Seems to me that I’m the one who “hit a nerve” here What with all the “[BAD WORD]”’s your dropping left and right. 

I'm Australian.

We call our friends ######### just for saying hello.

What's your excuse for flipping out over my first reply? SovererignKing said:

Lobby dodging because your opponent(s) have an unfair advantage from the get go is justification. How would you like it if we played Tekken or some other fighting game, and if your opponent so choices to “just hit a button” it automatically forces a handicap match on you? If you win, congratulations, you get the same reward you would have gotten if your opponent didn’t hit that button. Oh, if you lose, you get the same punishment as well. Little bit infuriating to lose Rank and the such because you got stuck in a handicap match you had no say so over, huh? How would you like it if I could just pick “Easy Mode” as Killer, and all Survivors automatically had the No Mither effect applied? Sound fun? 

No, it's [BAD WORD] entitlement. It's not justified at all.

Considering that a fighting game and an asymmetrical game about slashers have nothing in common with each other, I'm inclined to think you pulled this outta your ass too.

Who the [BAD WORD] cares about Rank? Of all things you could have chosen to ######### about in this game, you pick rank?

SovererignKing said:

Dodging isn't for “easy” matches, it’s for fair matches. 

So you admit you dodge lobbies because you think it's fair to do so.

Congrats you just proved your entitlement in that one sentence.

You're not justified to dodge lobbies because you think it's fair for the same reason you are not justified as a survivor to dictate what the killer can do in his matches.

I said this before, I said this again.

Get a [BAD WORD] grip.

fair as in fair to win(not bullshit games where you only win if they want you to).

Mc_Harty

@pauloandrade22 said:
fair as in fair to win(not bullshit games where you only win if they want you to).

Which is about as subjective as a survivors opinion on camping.

Orion

@Mc_Harty said:

@pauloandrade22 said:
fair as in fair to win(not bullshit games where you only win if they want you to).

Which is about as subjective as a survivors opinion on camping.

Nope. In DbD, if a Survivor and Killer of comparable skill and knowledge go up against each other, the only way the Killer wins is if the Survivor makes mistakes. This is well known to be true, but some will deny it vehemently. It's also a major problem with game balance.

pauloandrade22

@Mc_Harty said:

@pauloandrade22 said:
fair as in fair to win(not bullshit games where you only win if they want you to).

Which is about as subjective as a survivors opinion on camping.

At least the gen rushing one can't be subjective logically (gens in 7/6 or less mins (and im being fair with the minutes too)).

pauloandrade22

@Orion said:

@Mc_Harty said:

@pauloandrade22 said:
fair as in fair to win(not bullshit games where you only win if they want you to).

Which is about as subjective as a survivors opinion on camping.

Nope. In DbD, if a Survivor and Killer of comparable skill and knowledge go up against each other, the only way the Killer wins is if the Survivor makes mistakes. This is well known to be true, but some will deny it vehemently. It's also a major problem with game balance.

unless its nurse.

Orion

@pauloandrade22 said:

@Orion said:

@Mc_Harty said:

@pauloandrade22 said:
fair as in fair to win(not bullshit games where you only win if they want you to).

Which is about as subjective as a survivors opinion on camping.

Nope. In DbD, if a Survivor and Killer of comparable skill and knowledge go up against each other, the only way the Killer wins is if the Survivor makes mistakes. This is well known to be true, but some will deny it vehemently. It's also a major problem with game balance.

unless its nurse.

The Nurse is only good because Survivors refuse to use her counters and treat her like any other Killer. Against Survivors who know what they're doing, she's as weak as any other Killer.

Mc_Harty

@Orion said:
Nope. In DbD, if a Survivor and Killer of comparable skill and knowledge go up against each other, the only way the Killer wins is if the Survivor makes mistakes. This is well known to be true, but some will deny it vehemently. It's also a major problem with game balance.

...I meant whenever or not they rage at campers...

Not about skill or winning.

pauloandrade22

@Orion said:

@pauloandrade22 said:

@Orion said:

@Mc_Harty said:

@pauloandrade22 said:
fair as in fair to win(not bullshit games where you only win if they want you to).

Which is about as subjective as a survivors opinion on camping.

Nope. In DbD, if a Survivor and Killer of comparable skill and knowledge go up against each other, the only way the Killer wins is if the Survivor makes mistakes. This is well known to be true, but some will deny it vehemently. It's also a major problem with game balance.

unless its nurse.

The Nurse is only good because Survivors refuse to use her counters and treat her like any other Killer. Against Survivors who know what they're doing, she's as weak as any other Killer.

The problem is that gen repairing is too short at the moment. And DS(kill it). And stalling.

Orion

@Mc_Harty said:

@Orion said:
Nope. In DbD, if a Survivor and Killer of comparable skill and knowledge go up against each other, the only way the Killer wins is if the Survivor makes mistakes. This is well known to be true, but some will deny it vehemently. It's also a major problem with game balance.

...I meant whenever or not they rage at campers...

Not about skill or winning.

What you quoted was a complaint about fairness in games. Did you even read what you quoted?

pauloandrade22

@Mc_Harty said:

@Orion said:
Nope. In DbD, if a Survivor and Killer of comparable skill and knowledge go up against each other, the only way the Killer wins is if the Survivor makes mistakes. This is well known to be true, but some will deny it vehemently. It's also a major problem with game balance.

...I meant whenever or not they rage at campers...

Not about skill or winning.

In all fairness all killers should be like the nurse in the sense that once she sees you you are ######### and you'd need to use mindgames and cleverness to outwit them.

Mc_Harty

@Orion said:

What you quoted was a complaint about fairness in games. Did you even read what you quoted?

Did you?

I said being fair is subjective in a game like this. There are many people that want some really stupid stuff to be put into this game simply because they think it's fair. I compared that to whether or not survivors tolerate being camped or not, because just like what is fair in this game, is also completely subjective.

Orion

@Mc_Harty said:

@Orion said:

What you quoted was a complaint about fairness in games. Did you even read what you quoted?

Did you?

I said being fair is subjective in a game like this. There are many people that want some really stupid stuff to be put into this game simply because they think it's fair. I compared to whether or not survivors tolerate being camped or not, because just like what is fair in this game, is also completely subjective.

And I explained why "fair" is not subjective with an example.

Mc_Harty

@pauloandrade22 said:
In all fairness all killers should be like the nurse in the sense that once she sees you you are ######### and you'd need to use mindgames and cleverness to outwit them.

I would much rather them be like Billy, then the Nurse tbh and for the developers to fix the maps.

Mc_Harty

@Orion said:
And I explained why "fair" is not subjective with an example.

No you didn't lol.

You explained that the games balanced is #########. We already knew that from day one.

pauloandrade22

@Mc_Harty said:

@pauloandrade22 said:
In all fairness all killers should be like the nurse in the sense that once she sees you you are ######### and you'd need to use mindgames and cleverness to outwit them.

I would much rather them be like Billy, then the Nurse tbh and for the developers to fix the maps.

Fair enough( pun intended).

I just dislike stalling and DS BS. The rest is fine as is. If i lose it was not due to stalling or DS it was because they were better than me.

Orion

@Mc_Harty said:

@Orion said:
And I explained why "fair" is not subjective with an example.

No you didn't lol.

You explained that the games balanced is #########. We already knew that from day one.

Which makes it objectively unfair.

Mc_Harty

@Orion said:
Which makes it objectively unfair.

Of course.

But what would make it fair is completely subjective to the individual.

pauloandrade22

@Mc_Harty said:

@Orion said:
Which makes it objectively unfair.

Of course.

But what would make it fair is completely subjective to the individual.

Can we agree that if a killer is better than the survivor the killer should have a big chance to get them at least?

Mc_Harty

@pauloandrade22 said:
Can we agree that if a killer is better than the survivor the killer should have a big chance to get them at least?

Of course they should.

pauloandrade22

@Mc_Harty said:

@pauloandrade22 said:
Can we agree that if a killer is better than the survivor the killer should have a big chance to get them at least?

Of course they should.

THANK YOU. because thats the unfair part of the game. Being better than the survivor but they won(escape) because planks or certain stalling places or DS BS( the worst one)

SovererignKing

Mc_Harty said:

SovererignKing said:

You must be joking... 

Well known for using voice chat with Survivors? Are you talking about Kill Your Friends? What exactly does that have to do with SWF? The developers could implement voice chat in game for Kill Your Friends Mode. 

Omg, you're an actual idiot.

Killers can't use SWF. That was the whole point of my statement. I was mocking you for thinking I was survivor main.

And no the devs won't put voice chat in the game. Just like they won't nerf SWF specifically.

Jesus Christ, when you try to argue against a point mocking you for making assumptions.

SovererignKing said:

For the love of... YOU SAID IT. “If you’re just dodging for easy matches, it’s not justified” Who the ruddy hell said it was going to be easy going up against 4 random players? Those randoms could very well stomp a Killer. Easy, hard, it doesn’t matter. SWF provides an advantage, even without voice comms, that the game was not designed or balanced around. Period. Now tell me, what’s your justification for gaining an advantage over your opponent, simply because you clicked SWF and not play solo? What’s your justification for using voice comms? Right, you have none, for either. You should NOT be getting an advantage over the opponent simply because you clicked SWF, and not play solo. 

Yeah I did say that if you're dodging for easy matches you're not justified for doing it. I said that SWF is in the game for two years now and the developers haven't done any nerfs to that group specifically.

I never said you can't dodge or that SWF is easier then solos. You said you dodge against SWF team because you find it too hard. 

So, I ask ######### are you even doing? I never made any argument about survivors being justified at all in their matches. Like what in the actual [BAD WORD] is this paragraph?

SovererignKing said:

Here’s a tip : You should proof read what you type before you post. If I’m not justified in dodging lobbies for “easier games”, then you’re not justified playing SWF for “easier games” either. “Just deal with it” is basically you saying “Look, SWF gives the Survivors advantages that the game was not balanced or designed around. Deal with it.” Yeah, cause that’s what I want to play. An unbalanced and unfair game that’s stacked against me more than it’s supposed to be... because Survivor players clicked on a game mode. 

SO WHAT THE [BAD WORD] IS THE POINT OF THOSE REPLIES.

You agree with me that killers aren't justified to dodge lobbies for easy wins. And yet I don't know how to proof-read?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4

“Just deal with it” is basically you saying “Look, SWF gives the Survivors advantages that the game was not balanced or designed around. Deal with it.”

Yeah because that's what I said...

I never said deal with it I said don't be surprised if they don't do any nerfs to SWF. Like how they haven't done for nerfs for them for two years.

But please continue this is funny as #########.

SovererignKing said:

Whitelisted doesn’t matter. It still provides an advantage the game was not designed for. Doesn’t mean I can’t lobby for the developers to place restrictions on SWF groups that make the game harder (like for instance and extra 20 seconds per Gen), that makes it fair. 

Again, who do you think you arguing against?

I never said that SWF are not at an advantage. I said killers aren't justified to dodge matches for easy wins.

Also it's cute that you think programs that have an affect on the game being white listed doesn't matter. Of course they do. Considering an application called Curse Voice (a voice chat program) is allowed for support for Dead By Daylight, you have no justification to dodge SWF simply because they talk to each other.

Sucks I know.

Link in case you don't believe me.
https://www.easy.ac/en-us/support/dbd/guides/whitelist/

SovererignKing said:

Seems to me that I’m the one who “hit a nerve” here What with all the “[BAD WORD]”’s your dropping left and right. 

I'm Australian.

We call our friends ######### just for saying hello.

What's your excuse for flipping out over my first reply?

SovererignKing said:

Lobby dodging because your opponent(s) have an unfair advantage from the get go is justification. How would you like it if we played Tekken or some other fighting game, and if your opponent so choices to “just hit a button” it automatically forces a handicap match on you? If you win, congratulations, you get the same reward you would have gotten if your opponent didn’t hit that button. Oh, if you lose, you get the same punishment as well. Little bit infuriating to lose Rank and the such because you got stuck in a handicap match you had no say so over, huh? How would you like it if I could just pick “Easy Mode” as Killer, and all Survivors automatically had the No Mither effect applied? Sound fun? 

No, it's [BAD WORD] entitlement. It's not justified at all.

Considering that a fighting game and an asymmetrical game about slashers have nothing in common with each other, I'm inclined to think you pulled this outta your ass too.

Who the [BAD WORD] cares about Rank? Of all things you could have chosen to ######### about in this game, you pick rank?

SovererignKing said:

Dodging isn't for “easy” matches, it’s for fair matches. 

So you admit you dodge lobbies because you think it's fair to do so.

Congrats you just proved your entitlement in that one sentence.

You're not justified to dodge lobbies because you think it's fair for the same reason you are not justified as a survivor to dictate what the killer can do in his matches.

I said this before, I said this again.

Get a [BAD WORD] grip.

Congratulations, you’ve done nothing but proved how ignorant, hypocritical, and down right childish you are.

You speak of entitlement, yet what entitles Survivors to easier games when they click SWF instead of playing solo? What’s the justification they get to force a handicap match on the Killer? “I have and want to play with friends. Therefore, you are forced to play a handicap match against us.” THAT is entitlement.

The Survivors who play SWF have absolutely no  justification for forcing a handicap match on a Killer. Therefore, it is completely within the Killers right to decline a forced handicap match. The Survivor’s lack of justification is they feel entitled to a handicap match just because they are friends and want to play together. Survivors are NOT entitled to an easier match because they want to play with friends instead of randoms. 

Killers are completely justified in dodging a lobby. Survivors are not entitled to an easier match just because they want to play with friends and not randoms. Survivors want to play with friends in SWF, fine. Though like it or not, Survivors have an advantage they SHOULD NOT HAVE because of it. Therefore, it’s is within the Killers right to dodge the lobby if he/she doesn’t not feel like being thrown into a forced handicap match. 

As for the 3rd party program mentioned in this thread, you, nor anyone else has the right to tell Killers they are bad for using it if they so wish. Survivors use voice comms. Survivors use MLGA. Survivors use a plethora of their own 3rd party programs to make the game easier themselves. 

To sit there and call Killers entitled is hypocrisy, if not a flat out lie. SWF are the ones who are entitled. The developers are currently trying to empower solo Survivors to be on par with information equal to that of SWF, then buff Killers to compensate. 

Your ignorance is astounding really. “I don’t care about balance.” Then why are you even here? Why are the developers even bothering to try to “bridge the gap” between solo and SWF? Face it, SWF is not fine. Forcing a Killer into a handicap match isn’t fine. Dodging for SWF isn’t dodging for “easy” matches. It’s dodging for *fair and balanced* matches. Learn the difference between the two. 

Also, I never once said *I personally* dodge. I even stated in my very first post I don’t care and do whatever. Thanks, for once again putting words into my mouth. I said Killers, meaning other Killers, if they so wish, have the right to use this program, have the right to dodge, and are justified in doing so. I don’t like it, you don’t like it. Deal with it. 

Lastly, caring about Rank is quite normal. Just because you don’t, and many don’t, does not mean nobody does. Do not sit there and pretend like your ideology on Rank applies to everyone. That’s plain arrogance. 

Here’s some more advice, kid. Grow up and think before you type. Knock it off with the stupid childish memes. Learn to have a civilized discussion instead of tossing ######### around left and right like a smart ass.
My first post was hardly “flip out”. If you think that’s “flipping out” then you’ve seen nothing yet.

You were right about one thing : This is embarrassing. You’re embarrassing the hell out of yourself for your ignorance, hypocrisy, arrogance, and childish behavior.  

Mc_Harty

@SovererignKing said:
Congratulations, you’ve done nothing but proved how ignorant, hypocritical, and down right childish you are.

Yet you keep ######### replying.

Must be for the brownie points.

You speak of entitlement, yet what entitles Survivors to easier games when they click SWF instead of playing solo? What’s the justification they get to force a handicap match on the Killer? “I have and want to play with friends. Therefore, you are forced to play a handicap match against us.” THAT is entitlement.

And if you're done lecturing me about how survivors are entitled, you can see that I never claimed they weren't.

You however obviously are.

The Survivors who play SWF have absolutely no  justification for forcing a handicap match on a Killer. Therefore, it is completely within the Killers right to decline a forced handicap match. The Survivor’s lack of justification is they feel entitled to a handicap match just because they are friends and want to play together. Survivors are NOT entitled to an easier match because they want to play with friends instead of randoms. 

You keep repeating this ######### as if I argued that they were justified.

You should get your eyes checked.

Killers are completely justified in dodging a lobby.

Not if you're doing it for easier lobbies.

You are not justified to a win because you play killer.

As for the 3rd party program mentioned in this thread, you, nor anyone else has the right to tell Killers they are bad for using it if they so wish. Survivors use voice comms. Survivors use MLGA. Survivors use a plethora of their own 3rd party programs to make the game easier themselves. 

LOL you're argument has devolved from both sides that use 3rd party programs are bad to it's only bad if the survivors use 3rd party programs.

Keep being a hypocrite. You've shown your true colours now.

To sit there and call Killers entitled is hypocrisy, if not a flat out lie. SWF are the ones who are entitled. The developers are currently trying to empower solo Survivors to be on par with information equal to that of SWF, then buff Killers to compensate. 

I didn't call killers entitled.

Just you.

Last time I check you don't represent all killers.

Your ignorance is astounding really. “I don’t care about balance.” Then why are you even here? Why are the developers even bothering to try to “bridge the gap” between solo and SWF? Face it, SWF is not fine. Forcing a Killer into a handicap match isn’t fine. Dodging for SWF isn’t dodging for “easy” matches. It’s dodging for fair and balanced matches. Learn the difference between the two. 

Cherry picking too. You have so many hobbies.

I said that you aren't justified to win, no matter the state of balance in the game. The fact that you ignored the context of what comes after that, shows your maliciousness.

Also, I never once said I personally dodge. I even stated in my very first post I don’t care and do whatever. Thanks, for once again putting words into my mouth. I said Killers, meaning other Killers, if they so wish, have the right to use this program, have the right to dodge, and are justified in doing so. I don’t like it, you don’t like it. Deal with it. 

Yeah but your are still not justified in dodging because the matches are challenging.

And even if you didn't do that #########, why did you accuse me of calling killers chicken #########?

Why did you imply I was a survivor main?

Then you started to claim I don't care about balance for some ######### reason.

If you don't dodge, then you are quite clearly salty over a 4 line comment saying that no one is justified to a win.

It's almost like you do exactly what I accused you of... dodging lobbies for easy matches.

Lastly, caring about Rank is quite normal. Just because you don’t, and many don’t, does not mean nobody does. Do not sit there and pretend like your ideology on Rank applies to everyone. That’s plain arrogance. 

So is shoving your bullshit down my throat because I didn't agree with one line with what you said.

And rank doesn't mean anything. You play long enough, you'll come to that conclusion too.

Here’s some more advice, kid. Grow up and think before you type. Knock it off with the stupid childish memes. Learn to have a civilized discussion instead of tossing [BAD WORD] around left and right like a smart ass.
My first post was hardly “flip out”. If you think that’s “flipping out” then you’ve seen nothing yet.

Oh no.

I can't wait to see what happens if I keep saying #########.

Also who are you to dictate what I can and can't say on this forum. I think it's you who needs to grow up and realize that not everyone agrees with your soap opera.

You were right about one thing : This is embarrassing. You’re embarrassing the hell out of yourself for your ignorance, hypocrisy, arrogance, and childish behavior.  

You seriously need a therapist.

lyric

Mc_Harty said:

@SovererignKing said:
Congratulations, you’ve done nothing but proved how ignorant, hypocritical, and down right childish you are.

Yet you keep [BAD WORD] replying.

Must be for the brownie points.

You speak of entitlement, yet what entitles Survivors to easier games when they click SWF instead of playing solo? What’s the justification they get to force a handicap match on the Killer? “I have and want to play with friends. Therefore, you are forced to play a handicap match against us.” THAT is entitlement.

And if you're done lecturing me about how survivors are entitled, you can see that I never claimed they weren't.

You however obviously are.

The Survivors who play SWF have absolutely no  justification for forcing a handicap match on a Killer. Therefore, it is completely within the Killers right to decline a forced handicap match. The Survivor’s lack of justification is they feel entitled to a handicap match just because they are friends and want to play together. Survivors are NOT entitled to an easier match because they want to play with friends instead of randoms. 

You keep repeating this ######### as if I argued that they were justified.

You should get your eyes checked.

Killers are completely justified in dodging a lobby.

Not if you're doing it for easier lobbies.

You are not justified to a win because you play killer.

As for the 3rd party program mentioned in this thread, you, nor anyone else has the right to tell Killers they are bad for using it if they so wish. Survivors use voice comms. Survivors use MLGA. Survivors use a plethora of their own 3rd party programs to make the game easier themselves. 

LOL you're argument has devolved from both sides that use 3rd party programs are bad to it's only bad if the survivors use 3rd party programs.

Keep being a hypocrite. You've shown your true colours now.

To sit there and call Killers entitled is hypocrisy, if not a flat out lie. SWF are the ones who are entitled. The developers are currently trying to empower solo Survivors to be on par with information equal to that of SWF, then buff Killers to compensate. 

I didn't call killers entitled.

Just you.

Last time I check you don't represent all killers.

Your ignorance is astounding really. “I don’t care about balance.” Then why are you even here? Why are the developers even bothering to try to “bridge the gap” between solo and SWF? Face it, SWF is not fine. Forcing a Killer into a handicap match isn’t fine. Dodging for SWF isn’t dodging for “easy” matches. It’s dodging for fair and balanced matches. Learn the difference between the two. 

Cherry picking too. You have so many hobbies.

I said that you aren't justified to win, no matter the state of balance in the game. The fact that you ignored the context of what comes after that, shows your maliciousness.

Also, I never once said I personally dodge. I even stated in my very first post I don’t care and do whatever. Thanks, for once again putting words into my mouth. I said Killers, meaning other Killers, if they so wish, have the right to use this program, have the right to dodge, and are justified in doing so. I don’t like it, you don’t like it. Deal with it. 

Yeah but your are still not justified in dodging because the matches are challenging.

And even if you didn't do that #########, why did you accuse me of calling killers chicken #########?

Why did you imply I was a survivor main?

Then you started to claim I don't care about balance for some [BAD WORD] reason.

If you don't dodge, then you are quite clearly salty over a 4 line comment saying that no one is justified to a win.

It's almost like you do exactly what I accused you of... dodging lobbies for easy matches.

Lastly, caring about Rank is quite normal. Just because you don’t, and many don’t, does not mean nobody does. Do not sit there and pretend like your ideology on Rank applies to everyone. That’s plain arrogance. 

So is shoving your bullshit down my throat because I didn't agree with one line with what you said.

And rank doesn't mean anything. You play long enough, you'll come to that conclusion too.

Here’s some more advice, kid. Grow up and think before you type. Knock it off with the stupid childish memes. Learn to have a civilized discussion instead of tossing [BAD WORD] around left and right like a smart ass.
My first post was hardly “flip out”. If you think that’s “flipping out” then you’ve seen nothing yet.

Oh no.

I can't wait to what happen if I keep saying [BAD WORD].

Also who are you to dictate what I can and can't say on this forum. I think it's you who needs to grow up and realize that not everyone agrees with your soap opera.

You were right about one thing : This is embarrassing. You’re embarrassing the hell out of yourself for your ignorance, hypocrisy, arrogance, and childish behavior.  

You seriously need a therapist.

Where are the mods at? This is starting to get a little crazy

Mc_Harty

@lyric said:
Where are the mods at? This is starting to get a little crazy

I have no idea. At this point I just want this to end.

Jack11803

@Someissues said:

Where do you download this? Please link

they aren't going to blacklist MLGA, so this is perfectly fine

Look for it in the battered killers shelter.

Jack11803

@Orion said:

@Might_Oakk said:
OP offended a mods buddy. This is why you don't have community members as mods on official forums...

Yeah, it's not that OP was infamous for trolling in every thread under the sun.

I had over 100 flags and no response. Morf joins the forum and apparently I’m guilty of personal attacks. From a month before he joined... yeah

Orion

@Jack11803 said:

@Orion said:

@Might_Oakk said:
OP offended a mods buddy. This is why you don't have community members as mods on official forums...

Yeah, it's not that OP was infamous for trolling in every thread under the sun.

I had over 100 flags and no response. Morf joins the forum and apparently I’m guilty of personal attacks. From a month before he joined... yeah

Is a cop not allowed to arrest you for stuff that happened before he joined the force, if there's an ongoing investigation?

Master

@lyric said:
Mc_Harty said:

@SovererignKing said:

Congratulations, you’ve done nothing but proved how ignorant, hypocritical, and down right childish you are.

Yet you keep [BAD WORD] replying.

Must be for the brownie points.

You speak of entitlement, yet what entitles Survivors to easier games when they click SWF instead of playing solo? What’s the justification they get to force a handicap match on the Killer? “I have and want to play with friends. Therefore, you are forced to play a handicap match against us.” THAT is entitlement.

And if you're done lecturing me about how survivors are entitled, you can see that I never claimed they weren't.

You however obviously are.

The Survivors who play SWF have absolutely no  justification for forcing a handicap match on a Killer. Therefore, it is completely within the Killers right to decline a forced handicap match. The Survivor’s lack of justification is they feel entitled to a handicap match just because they are friends and want to play together. Survivors are NOT entitled to an easier match because they want to play with friends instead of randoms. 

You keep repeating this ######### as if I argued that they were justified.

You should get your eyes checked.

Killers are completely justified in dodging a lobby.

Not if you're doing it for easier lobbies.

You are not justified to a win because you play killer.

As for the 3rd party program mentioned in this thread, you, nor anyone else has the right to tell Killers they are bad for using it if they so wish. Survivors use voice comms. Survivors use MLGA. Survivors use a plethora of their own 3rd party programs to make the game easier themselves. 

LOL you're argument has devolved from both sides that use 3rd party programs are bad to it's only bad if the survivors use 3rd party programs.

Keep being a hypocrite. You've shown your true colours now.

To sit there and call Killers entitled is hypocrisy, if not a flat out lie. SWF are the ones who are entitled. The developers are currently trying to empower solo Survivors to be on par with information equal to that of SWF, then buff Killers to compensate. 

I didn't call killers entitled.

Just you.

Last time I check you don't represent all killers.

Your ignorance is astounding really. “I don’t care about balance.” Then why are you even here? Why are the developers even bothering to try to “bridge the gap” between solo and SWF? Face it, SWF is not fine. Forcing a Killer into a handicap match isn’t fine. Dodging for SWF isn’t dodging for “easy” matches. It’s dodging for fair and balanced matches. Learn the difference between the two. 

Cherry picking too. You have so many hobbies.

I said that you aren't justified to win, no matter the state of balance in the game. The fact that you ignored the context of what comes after that, shows your maliciousness.

Also, I never once said I personally dodge. I even stated in my very first post I don’t care and do whatever. Thanks, for once again putting words into my mouth. I said Killers, meaning other Killers, if they so wish, have the right to use this program, have the right to dodge, and are justified in doing so. I don’t like it, you don’t like it. Deal with it. 

Yeah but your are still not justified in dodging because the matches are challenging.

And even if you didn't do that #########, why did you accuse me of calling killers chicken #########?

Why did you imply I was a survivor main?

Then you started to claim I don't care about balance for some [BAD WORD] reason.

If you don't dodge, then you are quite clearly salty over a 4 line comment saying that no one is justified to a win.

It's almost like you do exactly what I accused you of... dodging lobbies for easy matches.

Lastly, caring about Rank is quite normal. Just because you don’t, and many don’t, does not mean nobody does. Do not sit there and pretend like your ideology on Rank applies to everyone. That’s plain arrogance. 

So is shoving your bullshit down my throat because I didn't agree with one line with what you said.

And rank doesn't mean anything. You play long enough, you'll come to that conclusion too.

Here’s some more advice, kid. Grow up and think before you type. Knock it off with the stupid childish memes. Learn to have a civilized discussion instead of tossing [BAD WORD] around left and right like a smart ass.

My first post was hardly “flip out”. If you think that’s “flipping out” then you’ve seen nothing yet.

Oh no.

I can't wait to what happen if I keep saying [BAD WORD].

Also who are you to dictate what I can and can't say on this forum. I think it's you who needs to grow up and realize that not everyone agrees with your soap opera.

You were right about one thing : This is embarrassing. You’re embarrassing the hell out of yourself for your ignorance, hypocrisy, arrogance, and childish behavior.  

You seriously need a therapist.

Where are the mods at? This is starting to get a little crazy

Mods dont wanna read wall of texts, tbh I am lost too stopped reading when it escalated

Jack11803

@Orion said:

@Jack11803 said:

@Orion said:

@Might_Oakk said:
OP offended a mods buddy. This is why you don't have community members as mods on official forums...

Yeah, it's not that OP was infamous for trolling in every thread under the sun.

I had over 100 flags and no response. Morf joins the forum and apparently I’m guilty of personal attacks. From a month before he joined... yeah

Is a cop not allowed to arrest you for stuff that happened before he joined the force, if there's an ongoing investigation?

There was a huge debacle on what to do with “false flagging” I never broke the rules once. In fact the person I was talking to got banned appropriately a DAY after it happened, meaning a moderator saw what I said and even deemed it okay. Later flags got removed. A month later I’m told I could get banned for personally attacking someone who personally attacked me

fcc2014

@Jack11803 said:

There was a huge debacle on what to do with “false flagging” I never broke the rules once. In fact the person I was talking to got banned appropriately a DAY after it happened, meaning a moderator saw what I said and even deemed it okay. Later flags got removed. A month later I’m told I could get banned for personally attacking someone who personally attacked me

Hey is that where you have been? I haven't seen too much from you recently and you used to be a main presence on here. The ban candy is getting out of control. Some maybe deserved some out grudges and others out napoleon syndrome. Either way good to see a post from you again.

Jack11803

@fcc2014 said:

@Jack11803 said:

There was a huge debacle on what to do with “false flagging” I never broke the rules once. In fact the person I was talking to got banned appropriately a DAY after it happened, meaning a moderator saw what I said and even deemed it okay. Later flags got removed. A month later I’m told I could get banned for personally attacking someone who personally attacked me

Hey is that where you have been? I haven't seen too much from you recently and you used to be a main presence on here. The ban candy is getting out of control. Some maybe deserved some out grudges and others out napoleon syndrome. Either way good to see a post from you again.

Kept ya waiting, huh?

JammyJewels

SWF detection, if it were to be implemented officially, would most likely lead to more killers deciding to dodge lobbies and would choose to wait for longer times just to have potentially easier matches. No one can really detect if the killer is a notorious camper and is just a matter of the situation, the player, etc. Camping is disliked due to how unfun it is. SWF is more liked due to the fact that the survivors in the group are having fun with their friends. It's not fun on the killer's end when those survivors are OChido wannabees that decide to bully the killer.

I don't think I've ever seen an objective based SWF group, aside from the days of 4 Gens instantly popping with the old 'Brand New Part' toolbox add-on.

fcc2014

@Jack11803 said:

Kept ya waiting, huh?

Went from seeing you highly active to pulling a Dwight in a locker. Thought you got targeted by a mod.

JammyJewels

@Jack11803 said:

@fcc2014 said:

@Jack11803 said:

There was a huge debacle on what to do with “false flagging” I never broke the rules once. In fact the person I was talking to got banned appropriately a DAY after it happened, meaning a moderator saw what I said and even deemed it okay. Later flags got removed. A month later I’m told I could get banned for personally attacking someone who personally attacked me

Hey is that where you have been? I haven't seen too much from you recently and you used to be a main presence on here. The ban candy is getting out of control. Some maybe deserved some out grudges and others out napoleon syndrome. Either way good to see a post from you again.

Kept ya waiting, huh?

I missed seeing your green text. Nice to see you've come out of your closet.

CryptoHighwind

@Lowbei said:
It detects and auto closes the lobby if any SWF joins.

If they arent going to blacklist MLGA, then they cant blacklist this either.

If they have a problem with this one, then I guess refusing to blacklist a known 3rd party app that affects gameplay like MLGA was a bad call.

Got a Name and /or Link to that? For Research purposes mind you, mingling with steam profiles sounds shifty and i wanna look into that so noone gets banned.

Greater_Cultist

@Lowbei said:
It detects and auto closes the lobby if any SWF joins.

If they arent going to blacklist MLGA, then they cant blacklist this either.

If they have a problem with this one, then I guess refusing to blacklist a known 3rd party app that affects gameplay like MLGA was a bad call.

1. Name?
2. Is it blacklisted yet?
3. Link please?

fcc2014

@CryptoHighwind said:

@Lowbei said:
It detects and auto closes the lobby if any SWF joins.

If they arent going to blacklist MLGA, then they cant blacklist this either.

If they have a problem with this one, then I guess refusing to blacklist a known 3rd party app that affects gameplay like MLGA was a bad call.

Got a Name and /or Link to that? For Research purposes mind you, mingling with steam profiles sounds shifty and i wanna look into that so noone gets banned.

The OP got banned probably for something ridiculous or a grudge from a new mod. Contact him through his twitch Lowbei and he can answer it.

Jack11803

@JammyJewels said:

@Jack11803 said:

@fcc2014 said:

@Jack11803 said:

There was a huge debacle on what to do with “false flagging” I never broke the rules once. In fact the person I was talking to got banned appropriately a DAY after it happened, meaning a moderator saw what I said and even deemed it okay. Later flags got removed. A month later I’m told I could get banned for personally attacking someone who personally attacked me

Hey is that where you have been? I haven't seen too much from you recently and you used to be a main presence on here. The ban candy is getting out of control. Some maybe deserved some out grudges and others out napoleon syndrome. Either way good to see a post from you again.

Kept ya waiting, huh?

I missed seeing your green text. Nice to see you've come out of your closet.

The sanctity of a locker is to never be doubted!

fcc2014

@Jack11803 said:

The sanctity of a locker is to never be doubted!

Observe Dwight in his natural habitat

Jack11803

@fcc2014 said:

@Jack11803 said:

The sanctity of a locker is to never be doubted!

Observe Dwight in his natural habitat

ChraizE

Just tried to get it going, it's not even a simple thing. It's complicated and has a process. I hate crap like this where people talk about how great it is but fail to let people know it's not user friendly and people will likely not use it because it's a pain in the butt to install.

fcc2014

Bump to keep the post alive!

Skorpanio

Oh the post is still going...
Didin't expect that out of our community...

JK ofc I did bcs noone in this fng world knows what ADAPT means!
Looks like I've had my fun here, it's time to move on bois.

chemical_reject

Bump because I like seeing this on the front page. 

fcc2014

@chemical_reject said:
Bump because I like seeing this on the front page. 

me too! I also like chaos, and feel people seeing the op's name in some way brightens their day.

chemical_reject

fcc2014 said:

@chemical_reject said:
Bump because I like seeing this on the front page. 

me too! I also like chaos, and feel people seeing the op's name in some way brightens their day.

Yea I like seeing the OPs name. I want a WWLD bracelet (What Would Lowbei Do)

powerbats

It's nice to see you active again @Jack11803 you've always got a witty response to brighten the day. As for this thread it's sad how bad this has become and those that download the program will probably come to regret it.