The problem people have with Billy.

underlord99

I think the biggest problem people have with billy is is extreme map pressure

Billy is the only killer that can zoom from one side of the map after hooking a survivor to the other sized to kick a gen and back to tunnel.

I expect this to be even stronger with the new ruin coming out.

(in no way am I calling for billy to be gutted I am just stating as to why I think some people have a problem with him so please dont storm my house with your torches and pick forks)

underlord99

@ClickyClicky said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1014802#Comment_1014802

Yeah but everyone said survivor was too easy to rank up in a year ago, and I said nah killers rank up faster....fast forward to early 2019 and the devs come out and say it that lo and behold killers are getting empty lobbies because they rank up faster than survivors.

Also you gotta think how many people get this to play with their friends and therefore never touch killer? Steam achievements dont tell the whole picture.

I agree with you about Myers. I remember when I got put with green ranks they would all group up around him and all get slugged in the span of 30 seconds. Difference is that stopped in red and purple ranks, Billys streak didnt lol

I think we will have to agree to disagree

I get instant lobbies for killer

Rasinbran

So why does my precious nurse get nerfed but the brain dead easy to pick up killer known as Billy that has a built in Insta down and unlimited map pressure get no readjustments?

TheDiz

@Endstille said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/121838/the-problem-people-have-with-billy

Didnt you make a thread about billy already? You too act as if all maps are not filled with obstacles inbetween, billy can not zip across the map the entire time. People who do struggle against billy are people who make lots of mistakes because that is what billy capitalizes on.

Stop spamming your issue and making 3-4 bad survivors into something survivors or people actually have a problem with.

Billy capitalizes on everything, lol. While he is zipping around, he can stop the moment he sees someone and depending on the add ons you barely stand a chance. The worst is seeing a P3 Billy because you already know he either has insta-saw and will tunnel and proximity camp everyone pretty quickly. Good times

Dustin

The Hillbilly does have a lot of map pressure but he's also extremely loud giving you ample time to hide or avoid him. Unless he's using addons the chainsaw pretty much kills any ambushes unless you're oblivious. Usually the people that get found are the ones who hide in an obvious corner when it's too late to get distance from Hillbilly without initiating a chase.

The chainsaw isn't really good anywhere except out in the open either. Unless a survivor makes a misplay they shouldn't be caught by it by normal means. Granted I believe the Bloodlust argument is a fair one where Hillbilly should lose bloodlust if he revs up his chainsaw.

Basekit wise though he's fine I would agree half his addons need touchups though. I'd imagine people just can't stand killers who don't suffer from maps being too big. Billy should be the norm for killers honestly. Map pressure and a deadly ability that requires a bit of finesse.

Raptorrotas

Billy gets targeted because he's next on the tier nerf-list

• Nurse
• Spirit
• Billy
• Etc.

Wow its like killers have been seeing this coming since the announcement of the nurse nerf.

kimukipi

IMO, every killer needs some sort of teleportation (like freddy) power for map pressure at least until they shrink those mindlessly huge maps.

Kbot22

Billy is not as over powered as spirit or nurse, the only way Billy gets a chainsaw is if he gets lucky with a curve in high ranks or if the survivor makes a mistake. Billy can be easily looped just like any other killer as long as the survivor makes no mistakes

david0711

Its people that haven't played enough to hone in their skills to certain killers that are the ones that complain to much and get killers nerfed, i wish no killers were nerfed at all, wouldnt that be awesome if the devs did like one week every once in a while that returned the killers to how they used to be or maybe more things, just for old times sake lol

Dr_doom_j2

@ClickyClicky said:

That’s a lot of it yeah.

The thing is no other kill has the mobility Billy has. Freddy needs to wait 45 seconds to teleport, Spirit can only make it so far before she runs out of juice and needs to go on a 15 second cooldown. Wraith simply doesn’t move anywhere near as fast and then he’s limited in that he has to bing bong before he can even attack. Demogorgan is the only killer who comes close to that mobility but he needs to plant a portal first, open it up, still has a 14 second cooldown and then on top of that his portals can be destroyed. Billy can go anywhere he wants right from the very start of the game and there’s no stopping him and no cooldown, map permitting.

Also not one of those killers has an instadown. Billy has all that mobility and instadowns on top.

He doesn’t need to delay the chase unlike Ghostface or Myers, nor is his ability on a time limit. Bubba has a chainsaw too but he suffers a larger movement penalty and a bigger penalty for missed attacks, he doesn’t have the mobility like Billy either.

So Billy seems like such out of place design. They normally give killers either strength or mobility. Not only does Billy get both but he gets arguably the best mobility and instadowns in the game.

Only Oni comes close but then he only has access to this half of the time.

My guy, Spirit gets surprise hits all the time, nurse can warp through pallets, and wraith can always sneak up to be close to you. Why are you only looking at what their power Doesn't do that his does? Does Billy turn invisible? Does he ignore pallets and loops?

BongRips4Wraith

Billy is fine, I love playing him. Even when survivors know how to deny your saw, the map pressure alone and the threat of a ranged insta-down is enough to make even the worst killer maps playable.

Billy with pop/ruin and insta-saw is an absolute bore fest for a solo team. You don't need gen stalling perks with Billy, if you lose every time without them on this killer, you don't deserve the win. Get better.