The Oni How it should be (by my opinion)

Primalux135

Here I will post the changes I would do to the Oni to be a proper killer.

1-While on Blood fury action speed increased same as Michael myers and pallet destruction 1 sec

2- While on blood fury your movement speed increase 120% and you can M1 to insta down but your lunge will last 2 secs to be released.

3-While on demon dash you can only hit forwards (So survivors can evade it)

4- Hit a survivor and downing it greatly reduce your meter. You can cancel your power but it recover lowly and you need blood orbs to fill it faster.

Basically would be like a Michael Myers with Hillbilly chainsaw for movement

ALostPuppy

You want to gut his demon dash even more? No. Just no. He's in a bad enough state right now, he doesn't need any more nerfs. It's already too easy for survivors to dodge his M2.

silverwolf4455

@Primalux135 said:

Here I will post the changes I would do to the Oni to be a proper killer.

1-While on Blood fury action speed increased same as Michael myers and pallet destruction 1 sec

2- While on blood fury your movement speed increase 120% and you can M1 to insta down but your lunge will last 2 secs to be released.

3-While on demon dash you can only hit forwards (So survivors can evade it)

4- Hit a survivor and downing it greatly reduce your meter. You can cancel your power but it recover lowly and you need blood orbs to fill it faster.

Basically would be like a Michael Myers with Hillbilly chainsaw for movement

Oni doesn't need changes unless they were to give him back a bit of the flick..

Primalux135

@ALostPuppy said:

You want to gut his demon dash even more? No. Just no. He's in a bad enough state right now, he doesn't need any more nerfs. It's already too easy for survivors to dodge his M2.

Thats why I said to increase base movement speed, become M1 insta down like Michael Myers and action speed up. Demon dash is for disrupt repairing not really hitting. Btw I would appreciate your ideas instead of saying just No way!

LordGlint

@ALostPuppy said:

You want to gut his demon dash even more? No. Just no. He's in a bad enough state right now, he doesn't need any more nerfs. It's already too easy for survivors to dodge his M2.

It actually doesnt sound so bad. The idea shifts abit of power away from the dash and into normal movement while in fury mode.An extra 5% movement speed isnt anything to laugh at when it comes to looping. As a whole, this idea sounds abit like a sidegrade.

Primalux135

@LordGlint said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/947455#Comment_947455

It actually doesnt sound so bad. The idea shifts abit of power away from the dash and into normal movement while in fury mode.An extra 5% movement speed isnt anything to laugh at when it comes to looping. As a whole, this idea sounds abit like a sidegrade.

I do think is an upgrade indeed maybe need modifications but the action and movement speed +5% while on blood fury it's logic you are angry so you do things faster and focus one thing - - ->The first survivor you find. While dash are just for move fast while losing control, like when u are bloody angry

LordGlint

@Primalux135 said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/947478#Comment_947478

I do think is an upgrade indeed maybe need modifications but the action and movement speed +5% while on blood fury it's logic you are angry so you do things faster and focus one thing - - ->The first survivor you find. While dash are just for move fast while losing control, like when u are bloody angry

I get what your saying and I'm not bashing it. The fact that your removing power from one aspect of the Oni while giving more power to another aspect is what defines a side grade. With Oni's dash having been hit pretty hard with the nerf bat recently, which was his defining feature... Giving him something else to be focused towards instead doesnt sound like a bad idea. Thats what your offering here, something else to focus his power into instead BESIDES the dash.

Primalux135

@LordGlint said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/947481#Comment_947481

I get what your saying and I'm not bashing it. The fact that your removing power from one aspect of the Oni while giving more power to another aspect is what defines a side grade. With Oni's dash having been hit pretty hard with the nerf bat recently, which was his defining feature... Giving him something else to be focused towards instead doesnt sound like a bad idea. Thats what your offering here, something else to focus his power into instead BESIDES the dash.

They could buff both "modes" dashing and pursuing but we know that survivors will ask for nerf hammer and we are 1 killer vs 4 survivors definetely they gonna nerf it again.

Accullla

@Primalux135 said:

Here I will post the changes I would do to the Oni to be a proper killer.

1-While on Blood fury action speed increased same as Michael myers and pallet destruction 1 sec

2- While on blood fury your movement speed increase 120% and you can M1 to insta down but your lunge will last 2 secs to be released.

3-While on demon dash you can only hit forwards (So survivors can evade it)

4- Hit a survivor and downing it greatly reduce your meter. You can cancel your power but it recover lowly and you need blood orbs to fill it faster.

Basically would be like a Michael Myers with Hillbilly chainsaw for movement

I think the changes you suggested are pretty balanced, but I personally dislike them. He would be a lot stronger when chasing survivors "normally", but much weaker if you're trying to down people with demon dash. For me that would take away the uniqueness of the killer and it would just feel like playing myers who can go into EW3 an infinite amount of times and can travel the map faster. I think your ideas would serve better as a buff to myers and not a change to the oni.

Also, the charge time for the lunge in 2. would be a big disadvantage to console players, as due to the slower turn speed/sensitivity survivors will have quite a lot of time to dodge/360 your swing. Not really a problem on PC, but a pretty big deal over on console.

Primalux135

@Accullla said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/115590/the-oni-how-it-should-be-by-my-opinion

I think the changes you suggested are pretty balanced, but I personally dislike them. He would be a lot stronger when chasing survivors "normally", but much weaker if you're trying to down people with demon dash. For me that would take away the uniqueness of the killer and it would just feel like playing myers who can go into EW3 an infinite amount of times and can travel the map faster. I think your ideas would serve better as a buff to myers and not a change to the oni.

Also, the charge time for the lunge in 2. would be a big disadvantage to console players, as due to the slower turn speed/sensitivity survivors will have quite a lot of time to dodge/360 your swing. Not really a problem on PC, but a pretty big deal over on console.

Thanks for your opinion but it would be more productive for everyone if you give ur ideas and tell which thing would you improve or modify. Maybe devs will try a PTB if we get agree.

Accullla

@Primalux135 said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/947507#Comment_947507

Thanks for your opinion but it would be more productive for everyone if you give ur ideas and tell which thing would you improve or modify. Maybe devs will try a PTB if we get agree.

Well, I don't necessarily have any good ideas on how to buff the oni and even if I did, I could only speak for console, because he feels quite different to PC and console players currently.

I generally think that providing an opposing opinion is still productive, even if it's not accompanied with ideas of my own. It's meant to offer a different point of view and help facilitate a debate where the more creative people can come up with new interesting ideas.I didn't mean to bash your idea just for the sake of it, which I feel is what you thought.

I will try to offer some ideas, if that's what you really want from people:

• A big issue for me with the oni is that during the swing your weapon and hands obscure a larger than normal portion of the screen which makes it difficult to track survivors during the lunge animation. Reducing the FOV block from these (i,e, making his hands and kanabo a bit smaller) would feel like a decent buff.
• The vertical vs horisontal turn sensitivity on console (and inability to adjust these separately) is another issue i have with the Oni during demon dash. I.e. when trying to turn horisontally I'd often turn the joystick vertically ever so slightly, which results in looking at the sky. Trying to correct this ends up with me in limbo switching between looking at the sky and looking at my feet - basically anywhere but where I'm actually trying to look/go. Giving us the ability to reduce the vertical joystick sensitivity while keeping the horisontal sensitivity maxed out would make playing the oni significantly more enjoyable for me and maybe other players with less agile thumbs.
• I'd like to get a little bit more power charge from blood orbs, because it would take less time to get to the "fun" part of playing the oni. Specifically until you manage to activate your power for the first time, this killer is pretty boring.
• I'd like to see an increase in the turn sensitivity while doing a normal charged lunge (not during demon dash). Currently I feel there isn't any opportunity to use the long charged lunge, because it almost locks you in a forward moving animation, making it easy to dodge. The only times I personally have success with it is when survivors are stuck between 2 long walls, or just aren't looking behind them.

Hope you find this more useful.

Primalux135

@Accullla said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/947525#Comment_947525

Well, I don't necessarily have any good ideas on how to buff the oni and even if I did, I could only speak for console, because he feels quite different to PC and console players currently.

I generally think that providing an opposing opinion is still productive, even if it's not accompanied with ideas of my own. It's meant to offer a different point of view and help facilitate a debate where the more creative people can come up with new interesting ideas.I didn't mean to bash your idea just for the sake of it, which I feel is what you thought.

I will try to offer some ideas, if that's what you really want from people:

• A big issue for me with the oni is that during the swing your weapon and hands obscure a larger than normal portion of the screen which makes it difficult to track survivors during the lunge animation. Reducing the FOV block from these (i,e, making his hands and kanabo a bit smaller) would feel like a decent buff.
• The vertical vs horisontal turn sensitivity on console (and inability to adjust these separately) is another issue i have with the Oni during demon dash. I.e. when trying to turn horisontally I'd often turn the joystick vertically ever so slightly, which results in looking at the sky. Trying to correct this ends up with me in limbo switching between looking at the sky and looking at my feet - basically anywhere but where I'm actually trying to look/go. Giving us the ability to reduce the vertical joystick sensitivity while keeping the horisontal sensitivity maxed out would make playing the oni significantly more enjoyable for me and maybe other players with less agile thumbs.
• I'd like to get a little bit more power charge from blood orbs, because it would take less time to get to the "fun" part of playing the oni. Specifically until you manage to activate your power for the first time, this killer is pretty boring.
• I'd like to see an increase in the turn sensitivity while doing a normal charged lunge (not during demon dash). Currently I feel there isn't any opportunity to use the long charged lunge, because it almost locks you in a forward moving animation, making it easy to dodge. The only times I personally have success with it is when survivors are stuck between 2 long walls, or just aren't looking behind them.

Hope you find this more useful.

Thats more useful 👍

Bludge23

Honestly, I see no reason to use oni over hillbilly

ThisGuuy83

They just need to increase his turning radius while running and I think he'd be fine. It's a joke trying to hit someone with demon fury. It takes pretty much zero skill to counter it.