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@Raven014 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/751159#Comment_751159
Same with Instablinds, DS, BT, and all other second chance perks? Also Keys? Killers have far fewer of those. It's not like there are perks that reward killers for playing badly.
That is true. I still think they were mostly used toxically. I had no issue with the concept, just execution. That's definitely an argument to be made.
Not true, if a bad killer brings an ebony and never catches anyone, then the mori was wasted, wasn't it? It's the same as bringing an instaheal but losing it to a Franklins...
No, but think about it for higher ranks with those that know how to abuse them to their full. It's not a fun experience. It's not a fun experience for a new killer too, since they have just secured a chase then are expected to do it again... then they experience locker DS's for the first time...
It just seems a little one sided what you're arguing for. Killers take on so much survivor sh*t, especially with all of the second chance perks and items, then they can't have a little fun with one offering? Seems like entitlement to me.
So it sounds to me that expert players get to ruin things for those who need a little which is probably the majority because your not going to tell me that 51% of the survivor player base is rank 1 toxicity professionals because even though I hit rank 1 doesn't mean I am a pro by any means and I play with low ranks 90% of the time and all the insta heal did for us would allow us one more hit when on of made a mistake. So because in the end high toxic people did something punish everyone with that in mind shouldn't ebony moris be nerfed due the high rank toxic killers who only run just to deny survivors points and to taunt and belittle us along with a git gud at end after proxy camping and tunneling the unhooked. Just saying fair is fair.
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@TheALIEN said:
Another survivor main making another one of these threads?
Complaining of the dev’s decision on toning down something that four players could all run and make the game a GGEZ scumfest for the Killer?
Instead of just playing the game and adapting to it, like we all did with the keys&mori?
Xx
Why do so many killer mains get so intensely salty about GGEZ I only ask because all you guys use that as some excuse to Mori every game you go into and to complain about survivors. If survivors stomp you that's you not their items killers have so many things at their disposal that they can counter everything a survivor has same can not be said about other way round.
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@TragicSolitude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/751146#Comment_751146
I'm pretty sure I and some other players have also said on these forums that we don't care about getting a 4k.
Instaheals are OP and definitely need to be changed. Winning a chase just to have someone else run in and bring the survivor from dying to healthy before I can even finish wiping my blade... another player described it as "a kick in the teeth," and I agree with that description. It's not fun. And the higher the ranks I play against, the more I see at least one survivor bringing an instaheal; they're not that rare.
If you honestly didn't care about the 4k then the insta heals wouldn't bother you so much. When I play killer I truly do not care just a hook each and give me my points and if someone insta heals so be it I chase them down again they don't get far most of the time anyway.
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@UlvenDagoth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/751146#Comment_751146
Once again! You are generalizing! Please stop that.
The Devs are on THE GAME'S SIDE! It looks like survivor gets alot of nerfs cause back in the dead it was INSANE! Want me to send you a clip of how it used to be?
Devs are not on Killer or Survivor side! I'm sorry you've seen alot of people being douches, but it's not everyone! If you plated on PC i'd love to meet you in the Fog, but I suppose I can just wish you better games!
(Also, you are using examples of the most extreme Killer mains, Trust me I can find survivors that are the same for when Killers anything, like the person that started this thread that insulted me directly and compared this game to child abuse!)
I understand that maybe they not specifically on one side or the other but it does tend go towards who ever complains the most and that would be the killers. I wish I could run into descent people on this game that play killer but literally every killer I come across say same things and that was not an exaggeration either I have been rank 1 survivor off and on for the past month and a half. I have not seen that many insta heals and the chance we do have them we rarely get to use them on a down survivor most of the time they don't get used or they get lost. I wouldn't say anything at all but I'm the short time I have been on here all I have seen is killer mains trying justify nerfing anything they related to survivors especially if gives them even the tiniest bit of a leg up. I get the killer is the power role but the game shouldn't be so one sided that it's only fun for the killer.
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@UlvenDagoth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/750806#Comment_750806
Hi! Devs are on the GAME'S side not Killer or Survivor. If you can't see why Instaheals that can heal someone to full with a press of a button is bad for gameplay, Then I don't really know if I can say anything that would get through to you!
Also your generalization is rather insulting! I am a Killer main and guess what? I don't want a 4k every time! I know that's a weird thought for you, but i'd RATHER have a fun back and forth game and not a stomp either way!
So you need to calm down and breathe a bit, try and have fun in a GAME that you chose to play! Have fun in the Fog!
If you don't want a 4k then your only person I have ever met read about seen or any other form of knowing someone that has said that cause all I see and hear is if I don't get a 4k survivors are to over powered and are spooned fed everything. It's the case I play both sides on Xbox and yes something's can get annoying on both sides but every time something gotta get nerfed the survivors have to feel it too and it's not like insta heals are that common or that easy to use but I understand killers are apparently the majority vote here.
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I believe the devs may be killer mains folks that would explain the survivors nerf. They also seem to be PC mains cause they don't seem to understand the console struggle. But it's fine we don't need anything because soon enough all the survivor perks that are deemed toxic or too OP will down to the old left for dead status. And before anyone says anything about rework it doesn't matter if you can't get to that stage in the game and even if you do the killers think that it's unfair they didn't get their precious 4k. Then they'll be back on the forums begging for that to be gone as well.
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They may not have put comms in because it's unnecessary work with all the comms in place for people to use why waste man power designing and programming comms in when they don't have to that's man power going towards doing other more important things. Maybe they put perks like bond to help those who don't have friends to chat with. You know they had know about all the chat options when they made the game. Just please stop trying to say comms mean so much because it wasn't built into the game and people have it. Take swf out and all you killers will have to go play other games cause this one will die.
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I play swf all the time and we lose so to speak most of our games we might only get 1 or 2 gens done before a 4k or 3k hatch escape. I honestly have better games solo but I have more fun with swf. We die due to our attachment to each other more often than not and the lack of attachment in solo fairs better. Honestly as a killer I prefer swf groups as they tend to come to me in groups of 2 to be downed. So I don't get what the problem is maybe it's because I am on Xbox and whether or not not swf they can still group up in lobby. So it really wouldn't matter. Either way if you can't stand for a group people working against you with communication maybe you shouldn't play online games at all because very few games disable the ability to communicate outside the it's almost impossible to block all communication. People have have phones with discord and other apps to talk developers can't stop that.
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This would be amazing not sure about the perks though.
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Funny thing is I am already waiting 10+ minutes without dcing or doing any other misdeeds.
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Don't like the hatch closing and spawning elsewhere that is a bit one sided to the killer, having you aura revealed maybe but the the key is fine the way it is.
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@GrootDude said:
I’m on PS4, I keep getting this as survivor, currently waiting on a killer lobby for more testing.
All the time and I am on Xbox one
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@The_Bootie_Gorgon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/728136#Comment_728136
Do you not think the devs have considered this? You have to remember, they have access to metrics we do not see. I would assume they track matchmaking and make tweaks based on those metrics and other factors.
This game has been out way too long for these problems to exist. The was fine just a few weeks ago and now MM is taking forever and most of us who actually have real life friends that would like to play are getting annoyed with the way things have become didn't help they did this with ST dlc dropping and a bunch new wanted to come play and since a good portion are survivors with high friends they disliking the game. I don't know what to do about I think reverting it back until a better solution comes along would be a good option
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@The_Bootie_Gorgon said:
Low level survivors have the option to choose to play SWF. Low level killers do not have an option to not play vs SWF.
How about we revert to the old match making with one change...Killers from rank 20 - 13 are given the option to choose not to be matched against SWF.
Why would new person coming to a game to play with just not play with a friend? That's makes no sense unless of course that dbd community is so exclusive that they don't won't new joins on the game bringing new life into the game and hopefully making wait times shorter. I still think the killer having an option to end a chase to go after a less skilled survivor is more manageable than forcing 3 new survivors dealing with a maxed out red rank killer. There should be a middle ground or something and maybe giving the low rank killer option to not face swf but swf really isn't that over powered as people seem to think it is. It's not that's I don't understand chatting versus not chatting but a unskilled player is still skilled player there is no talking them through a chase or skill checks.
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@Kenshin said:
just use family share when you play with friends. even that is disgusting tho, playing as more experienced player against low lvl killers. the only importent thing for you is your own fun. and now ppl say they gonna derank. i really think you guys should switch the game if you cant handle it. but who cares about the bot who plays killer. IM SURVIVOR MAIN AND YOU HAVE TO THE DANCE FOR ME STUPID KILLER.
It's fair to derank to keep friends on to play with my friends have less than a fourth of the time I have on here it's not fair for them to get slaughtered to appease the egos of killers who have to have a 4k to even remotely consider it a win. I'd rather be with 3 of my friends in the low to mid rank area instead of taking them the mill to feed the red rank try hard killers. I might these red rank killer can tell who is inexperienced and who isn't after few seconds of chase and they choose to take the easy kills which isn't that the same as me going to a rank 20 and looping to no end? To be fair that 20 has the option of breaking chase where are my friends can't do that with a red rank killer.
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I agree I don't want to derank I am fine where I am but of it's choice between playing with friends or alone then it's going to happen and I know I am not the only one who thinks that. Unfortunately for the killer side they'll end up with red survivors in the green and brown ranks and there will be nothing anyone can do about cause technically they'll be that low rank.
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To be fair I have been ranking down to make it more fair to my friends I play with because all but my wife and one other friend has quit due to new match making it's not fair for me to force them to play in the red ranks while they are only rank 15-18. Before anyone says go to kyf because that's not the same. I don't play at red rank killer so there is zero I could teach them.
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I never said anything about farming but you know instead of rushing the game and denying both sides incredible points what's the point of an event if everyone only cares if they get points and even then they deny themselves points with moris just to be toxic. And people shouldn't be punished for playing with friends like everyone here seems to think just because you play with others your somehow the worst of the worst. Can someone explain that cause I have read alot and have no idea why swf is looked down upon so bad. We are a casual group not toxic we don't use flash lights or teabag before anyone says that's why
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@TragicSolitude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/710442#Comment_710442
I've seen more killers who will go easy on struggling survivors than I've seen survivors willing to go easy on struggling killers. And I'm one of those killers that'll go easy on survivors who are obviously below my skill level (which is already really low, btw).
Well I have given a killer that I can tell is having a hard time I let them get hooks free hits and what not. I understand new people on both sides and I play both side I help new survivors when I see them really falling behind but at the same point swf is just that swf no matter how much I can tell my team what to do they can't execute it not to mention I cant always take the chase over for them or do their skill checks for them for most they there to play with friend who has talked the game up to them they just want to have fun. All I was getting at is survivors takes a lot more to accomplish killer has the power roll and they will get hooks here and there and they may even kill a couple but they can get a survivor who new gets bullied camped or tunneled for more than a couple games will uninstall.
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The biggest problem with the swf update is that even though you can protect your new friend it wouldn't matter due to the fact the killer would recognize this and do 1 of 2 things tunnel the person protecting to get them out of the way and then plow through the rest with little to no care about how new they are or they will ignore the protector and go for the easy kills leaving the high rank person alone for the final kill. Either way in the end new survivors coming especially the ST ones are going to dislike the game and leave.