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  • @Tzeentchling9 said:
    Iodine said:

    but they are nerfing Brand new parts but not adjusting tombstone, blinks, why can myers just straight grab and mori you without downing or hooking? why can nurse blink 4 times? sure she staggers but can instantly do 4 more blinks..

    Because it takes Myers ages of not doing anything but stalking and then getting right on the Survivor's ass to perform the mori. The tombstone peice only let's you mori one person per EW3 and the entire tombstone also makes him slow AF.

    It's called balance. Survivors don't need BNPs to counter Myers they can get all the gens done before he pops EW3.

    first off he didn't win the chase to mori? i'm not down so why can he straight grab me from like 6 feet away? second off still walks faster than survivors and has blood lust crutches? 3rd it's not that slow if you stalk close to someone and not a mile away...

  • they all suck lol well besides dance with me, needs longer duration? idk seems meh

  • @ShrimpTwiggs said:
    1.) Face-camping can suck, but it can be punished by working on gens.
    2.) Ruin is used by a lot of killers because, without it, they are easily genrushed. Even then, really good survivors can power through it.
    3. This goes for both sides. While some add-ons, like extra blinks on the nurse, feel unfun to play against, the same can be said for some survivor add-ons, like the brand new part.

    but they are nerfing Brand new parts but not adjusting tombstone, blinks, why can myers just straight grab and mori you without downing or hooking? why can nurse blink 4 times? sure she staggers but can instantly do 4 more blinks..

  • @The_Manlet said:
    No, the effect of Ruin is not super strong. Good survivors hit skill checks in the great zone at least half the time and the ones who aren't good can just gen tap, which is not that much slower than standard repair. Ruin barely makes any difference against good survivor teams. It has a moderate effect on mediocre ones until it gets destroyed 2 minutes in, and a great effect on bad teams. Ruin is a perk that rather than granting the killer power, or removing power from the survivors, just makes things a little harder for the survivors. But with skill they can overcome it. You can't overcome the killer breaking pallets faster or being able to oneshot you after you unhook someone. You can't nullify these things. Ruin is a bad perk. Yet you still need it to have a chance.

    I'll add on to this: Ruin would be weak even if it weren't a hex perk. Even if you couldn't disable it and just had to deal with it, it would only have a serious effect when used by already top tier killers, because they have the power to put pressure on teams.

    which is why camping is dumb, and Ruin needs adjustments sure but how can they make it work better for both teams? Remove Totem- make great skill checks happen anywhere in the line, but in doing so make it last only so long before it wears off? like 5-6-7 minutes? It would help early game then? weakness is duration so good killers would have to be great at ending chases? maybe. that's not a good idea? So try removing duration for number of Generators effected, have 3 gens have Ruin always on them. So it would be assigned to 3 Gens randomly? how else can it be strong but not game breaking?

  • @Tzeentchling9 said:
    Ruin is in every build because it's the only way killers can hope to prevent the gens from all being done in 4 minutes. It is actually quite garbage that relies on luck for Survivors to get the skill checks, is a totem, and relies on Survivors being bad at skill checks.

    you say its bad for the wrong reason, the effect is super strong, the weakness is the totem that's how balance works. Super Strong Effect, RNG Spawn weakness. Remove the Totem then ruin effect needs a nerf.

  • ruin would be fine , the effect is already stupid

  • @Irisora said:

    @The_Manlet said:
    Face camping isn't a thing anymore. You can bait a killer into hitting you by breaking the unhook action and then unhook. With multiple people everyone gets out through body blocking.

    Ruin is actually incredibly underpowered. The fact that it is still absolutely necessary despite this is a testament to how unbalanced the game is.

    Yep, ruin mostly get destroyed after 10-30 sec of the match due to the awful spawns and fast cleansing. All hex perk right now are very bad and needs a rework.

    And as you say face camping isn't in the game anymore.

    @Iodine Face camping was the ability of the killer to prevent unhooking actions.. now you can unhook from multiple sides. What you are saying is just plain camping wich is allowed.

    BBQ and chilli tries to prevent camping so nerfing the perk is not wise. There's nothing bad in the bonus BP also, survivors have WGLF wich gives 100% more BP too. And BBQ can be countered by counting the seconds and moving or by going near the hook.

    About addons and offerings.. Moris was already nerfed and don't need another one. Flashlight are ok as they can only be used occasionally. I can only agree with you that BNP are overpowered but the devs are already looking into it.

    And the clown.. is just another normal killer slightly better than freddy.

    hex ruin is in every build because it's good if it was bad no one would use it. the totem system is bad yes but the effect of ruin is ridiculously strong. yes gen tapping is a thing but it's so slow. and for Camping? so it's okay to ruin the fun for a player that got downed once? and they get death on first hook? you say just bait a hit but you can't with billy or leather face oh and myers. they're played 85% of xbox games. Ive went through a night started at 8pm and finished at 5am with nothing but Myers, leather face and billy. my group went against 1 pig that night. that was it and EACH Leather face who hooked the first person stood on them till death. so why is that allowed ?

  • @Lowbei said:
    Iodine said:

    @Lowbei said:

    none of these issues are real

    they are on xbox

    nope

    i can literally record videos of face camping leather faces

  • @Lowbei said:
    none of these issues are real

    they are on xbox

  • @switch said:
    Added the ability to unhook a survivor from all possible angles. - patch notes 1.8.0 - 26 October 2017
    Before you make stupid statements check first.
    If playing killer is so easy why dont you show us how you 4k every single time against swf team at rank 1 with freedy ? since its soo easy for you.

    Freddy* and i said easy to pip don't need a 4k to pip genus and what do you call a killer that stands next to the person on hook? and if he has a chainsaw or is myers?.....

  • i play killer it's boring easy to pip... and Face camping is still a thing

  • lol yeah seems fishy

  • anyone that camps is a ( input bad word ) just saying get good