Dwight_Fairfield
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@SkeletonDance said:
Looks like Myers rework is coming to live…
This is great. It looks like they've listened to the feedback on what people disliked.
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@Pulsar said:
How would I run Stegull then :(
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I really wanted Chef Dwight 😔 It's actually quite sad that none of the male survivors got a cosmetic.
Congrats to the winners though 👍
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Not to mention any survivor with some common sense will begin running away and making distance the moment they hear the Legion's terror radius come their way after they start frenzy hitting.
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I still see him from time to time, but I am glad its calmed down. I find him pretty boring. Just a budget Huntress and Dredge combo.
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I haven't played it personally as I am on PS5. My opinions are based solely on watching other players, mainly Mikey mains, playing it. This is the stuff I love and have always wanted for him;
- The ability to switch between stalker and pursuer mode
- The infinite stalk pool on survivors
- Giving him enduring and brutal strength base kit
- Base kit tombstone/mori of death hook survivors
- The buff to scratched mirror
- The stalking stinger music returning
All of that is chef's kiss. Perfection. I think most people love all that from what I've seen.
Its the slaughtering strike that is the controversial part. Its so wildly mixed too on the reasons why. Some people think its too clunky, some think its too easily countered by camping pallets, there's the "dash slop" critiques, and then there's those who think it just doesn't feel like Michael Myers.
Personally I would settle for them just going back to the exposed. That combined with the other aforementioned base kit buffs would be great.
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@AcesSpeedo said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3997754#Comment_3997754
A perk doesn't suddenly transform killers into dash killers.
i literally agree? but its not just a big lunge anymore its a full on dash!? it has been implemented into his kit and by definition makes him a dash killer now ?!? maybe we just agree to disagree i guess we can have our opinions lmao!
But that's the logic I can't wrap my head around. If he does the same thing with tier 3 coup lunge then why is it not the same thing just because they gave it to him as base kit? Are the two videos showing two completely different lunges. No.
I know they gave him an extra effect with it in the pallet breaking. That doesn't change that they both do the same lunge. I don't see how anyone could look at those two comparison videos and not say it doesn't look like the same thing. It's a big lunge. They just made it base kit and gave it a new label.
But yeah agree to disagree because I don't know how else to say this without it starting to get repetitive.
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@AcesSpeedo said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3997747#Comment_3997747
i think you misunderstand the meaning of a dash killer. they have built in m2 to go zoom zoom = dash killer
its not strictly assigned to kiillers with wesker double dash or ghoul or houndmaster or demo
just because he swings and it looks like coup doesnt mean it isnt dashslop
I know exactly what a dash killer means. Myers players have been using coup for years and nobody was calling it dash or "dash slop". Just a big lunge. Which is what it is.
But suddenly Bhvr slap a strike label on it, give it to him base kit, and now it's suddenly a dash. No afraid not. That's the whole point that person in the tweet was making. A perk doesn't suddenly transform killers into dash killers.
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@AcesSpeedo said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3997603#Comment_3997603
also the first video is a lunge, extended by the use of perks.
second video is REWORKED myers performing his new DASH.
The first video is the same thing as the second. The only difference is one is done with perks, the second is a base kit ability.
That's the whole point. Slaughtering strike is simply a coup lunge they gave him and made it a special ability. If the first video showed him doing something completely different you would have a point. But it isn't. You're trying to validate your opinion of it being a dash just because they have made it a special ability for him.
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@AcesSpeedo said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3997603#Comment_3997603
ok use the "lunge" that apparently isnt a dash to activate noed then. if its really just a long lunge you should be able to activate noed on impact. i'll wait
Are you trying to move goal posts just because they made this base kit coup lunge a special ability?
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Mikey is my main killer.
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@AcesSpeedo said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/456131/this-is-driving-me-nuts
it's a dash killer bro….you charge your power and dash forward… like chucky, who is also a dash killer
Its a lunge. You can literally do it with coup and/or all shaking thunder while he's in tier 3. There's the proof. -
@XDgamer018 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3994532#Comment_3994532
why not if i might ask?
I really dislike those movies and what they did with the characters.
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I don't want any of the Rob Zombie stuff, but please give us the new Halloween trilogy ones.
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@Coffee2Go said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3994398#Comment_3994398
The whole point of vanity was to not waste perk slots for speed lol.
And having to waste another addon slot to make my scratched mirror to 4.4ms is really sad and miserable for not even having access to his cool new ability.
I would have even settled for undetectable + aura reading + 4.6ms speed when out of chase and in chase i would be okay with 4.4ms speed.
Its really crucial to give michael 4.6ms speed to make him have speed and mobility.
He has no mobility with scratched mirror even with 4.4ms.
And fyi, the whole point of his rework was so he doesnt rely on bloodlust againts high mmr squads and hold his own without PWYF, bloodlust
Bloodlust literally means that the survivor has an upperhand and pitty system gets activated
I really don't understand your complaints. Old scratched mirror had to have bf memo with it just so your tiny tier 1 lunge was less tiny. Yet you're complaining it now needs memorial flower which gives it a considerable speed buff to 4.4m/s base kit.
Vanity mirror you always ran with dead rabbit. Why would you use anything else with it. Both mirror add ons had a necessity add on to accompany it.
The whole point of scratched mirror was for the jump scares. Its a meme build. You're arguing about it like you want it to get 4k's with it. If you like it for the jump scares you can still do that and its more viable on all maps now.
You can mourn vanity mirror all you want. But scratched mirror is currently better than the old version now.
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@Coffee2Go said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3994327#Comment_3994327
No i was saying in the post that if they do a rework of scratched and vanity and combine it in one or have one viable like right now where scratched remains untouched, i was hoping that now scratched gives less reading on aura so 8-12m for 4.6ms, and ability to switch modes atleast do that lunge ability lol
Stalky boi has been playing it on outdoor maps. 4.4m/s movement when paired with the memorial flower, normal lunge, you can now get blood lust with it, and with speed add ons like pwyf etc its actually viable on outdoor maps.
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@Coffee2Go said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3994315#Comment_3994315
Because they confirmed before this new PTB that they want players to use all three modes.
But yeah this is just sad i was hoping if scratched stayed as only mirror that it would allow u to either use 2 or 3 modes not locked to 1 forcing 4.2m and 4.4ms
Yes in general they want you to use all three modes. Not with an add on that is specific for tier 1 only. That would be crazy if you could go to all three modes with 32 meter wall hacks on command.
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@Coffee2Go said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3994306#Comment_3994306
Yeah but does it lock you in the tier 1? Or does it allow you to cycle through all 3 modes?
If you only get tier 1 still and nothing else this is just sad man and pathethic.
4.4m is only viable againts non swfs, and at 55% killrate players.
But with new changes i think mikey might not be my main anymore, it was fun i loved vanity more than anything.
Why would it let you go through all three modes? Its a wall hack tier 1 build. Its still a tier 1 add on only now you can move faster and have normal lunge.
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Stalky boi is saying jump scare Mikey got buffed. Apparently he has normal lunge with it and gets the 4.4m/s movement speed with the memorial flower add on.
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Is this a buff to scratched mirror?
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Haddonfield and some of the Coldwind maps are the only ones that needed this.
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They need to make it so scratched mirror guarantees an indoor map if he has it equipped.
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I am there for the Mikey rework. It looks so good.
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@TheGoone said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3992800#Comment_3992800
Then I guess she can rot with Skullmerchant till then
Yeah. But honestly Twins has been largely ignored since they came into the game. I think they get put on the back burner because they're one of the least popular played killers.
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You rang?
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@TheGoone said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3992781#Comment_3992781
I'm talking about a different rework
I know. But they spent two years on that rework and it all came to nothing. Colossal waste of time. So I don't see them dedicating themselves to another one in the foreseeable future.
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@TheGoone said:
Twins needs to be reworked anyways these changes make it more so needed
The last rework they got was a dumpster fire though. They were made so brainlessly op that almost every aspect of the rework had to be reverted.
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I'm excited for the Mikey rework. As a long time Mikey main I think it looks fantastic.
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I hope they do. They said they have reworked most of his add ons. Most, not all, so maybe the mirror ones are untouched. But they need to make an alteration to them, I think if Myers equips a mirror add on he should get a high chance of getting an indoor map because that's the only way jump scare Mikey works.
The map offering change pretty much killed it. So I hope this is their chance to fix it somehow.
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I would like it so if he equips scratched or vanity mirror he is guaranteed an indoor map. The map offering change killed jump scare Mikey.
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Not at all.
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@Coffee2Go said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3990084#Comment_3990084
Dont get me wrong im so stoked for his new rework i waited for so long for this.
I just wish his addons that were not yet announced will give him far better balanced version of both Pursuer & Stalk.
Same what vanity mirror does right now it gives u kinds balance between tier 1 and tier 3 while locking u at tier 2 but with benefits.
Like i am all about him getting this it will help A crap ton of plays at shack and god loops and pallets.
I hope this is like a whole new unique feel and not some washed chucky + pig hyrbid ambush.
Should still feel snappy like his tier 3.
I loved playing tier 3 which was really fun (i did not use tomb infinite build on that) so tier 3 was really lovely but not viable much at higher mmr but now this new rework in that Pursuer mode he will get noticable buff hopefully equal footing for users that know loops and hug the wall tightly
Remember you can still play tier 3 version if you want if you use the tuft of hair add on. That door is still open for all us nostalgic Mikey players.
That's amazing. They've never done that for a rework killer before. Giving you an option to play the older version.
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@Coffee2Go said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3990067#Comment_3990067
Apart from it being a rework and a recolor of ambush and if they can make michaels one not be controlled in that way since michael should just be given similar effect of his tier 3 lunge in combo of coup perk.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/KYEB6NKI2G7O/theshape-slaughteringstrike.gif
As you can see upon the tester or a dev using the lunge dash ability the movement of him becomes heavier to control which kinda defeats the purpose of his hard earned stalk since it was mentioned in post it will be a bit harder and longer to get it full unlike current tier 1 - 2 - 3
Since now its two modes.
All im asking is to not feel like pigs ambush (no offense to pig players and pig enjoyers) but i dont like playing her because of how her mechanics feel clunky.
I'm sure the whole point is for it to feel unique and not like you're playing like another existing killer. Plus unlike Pig dash, Michael can insta down with this.
On a side note they really shouldn't have used an injured survivor in their gif for this if they wanted to showcase its also an insta down too.
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@jesterkind said:
I mean, it's not that hard to follow.
Myers has an increased lunge in Tier 3 → Myers gets an increased lunge style attack in his equivalent of Tier 3.
This is always how Myers has been designed, I know it's charged like Ambush now but it really is just a more codified version of his increased lunge. I'm not saying you have to like it obviously, it's just fairly straightforward how they came to this idea for his rework.
This 👍️
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@darkwiredheart said:
My only complaint is no more jump scare myers. That was my favorite build to play for kicks.
We don't know that though. The patch notes say they are changing all his add ons. The map offering change already killed scratched mirror. They may have buffed it now.
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@GeneralV said:
Anti-tunneling and anti-slugging both seem pretty good, nice changes overall.
@Dwight_Fairfield your thoughts on Myers, friend?
General my friend, thank you for asking. I am just going to copy pasta what I said in another thread.
As a long, long time Mikey main my first impression is these are awesome.
He gets undetectable base kit, something he always should have had. He is still a creepy stalker to charge up his new ability. He can tombstone death hook survivors. They're still keeping his identity which was my biggest concern that he would lose it.
They have now given him some solid anti loop in his kit. I mean as good as you can give an M1 killer. Faster pallet breaking and endures stuns quicker, while having base kit coup and keeping the fast vault speed.
Obviously I need to see all this in action but I am loving what I am reading.
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As a long, long time Mikey main my first impression is these are awesome.
He gets undetectable base kit, something he always should have had. He is still a creepy stalker to charge up his new ability. He can tombstone death hook survivors. They're still keeping his identity which was my biggest concern.
They have now given him some solid anti loop in his kit. I mean as good as you can give an M1 killer. Faster pallet breaking and endures stuns quicker, while having base kit coup and keeping the fast vault speed.
Obviously I need to see all this in action but I am loving what I am reading.
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Amen. 90% of what I purchase on my survivor bloodwebs I don't use. Colossal waste of BP.
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I am so sorry for your loss. I wish you all the best for the future.
As a Halloween fan I love that you both met playing Michael and Laurie. That's so cute.
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@Moonras2 said:
I played a lot of Myers with the tier 2 stalking addon, dead rabbit, and monitor and abuse. While I find it very fun to try and jump scare people with it, a lot of people have said in the endgame chat that they find it boring to play against. I never played a lot of hit and run play style with it but I imagine that could be moreso boring to those people.
At higher level, where people might play differently, that feeling may become compounded with players. Also add in that people on comms would have a huge advantage over this, as with a lot of play styles. Making it another solo queue nightmare.
Not saying it would be overpowered by any means but if it became more of a common occurrence I could see a lot of people hating it.
I think that's people who just don't like facing stealth killers in general. Pig, Ghostface, Wraith, Chucky and so on can all go undetectable base kit. Not everyone enjoys the jump scare factor and that's fair enough.
There's also the factor of survivors who prefer staying injured for their resilience, dead hard etc. But when you have a stealth killer, staying injured is a massive risk because you get no terror radius warning.
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You think power struggle shouldn't exist? Its very situational.
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Pretty good tier list overall. Though I still feel Haddonfield is in a league of it's own in terms of imbalance
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He's their OG license. Been in the game almost 9 years now. I would say if any license is safe it's him.
And as already mentioned we never lost Bubba when the TCM game came out.
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@Astel said:
Dwight: The Leader
Meg: The Athlete
Steve: The Seagull
Felix: The Constructor
Ace: The Lucky
Ada: The Spy
Aestri/Baermar: The Bardic
Exactly what I was going to say for Dweet.
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Not every survivor is afraid to take a chase.
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Dr. Loomis for Laurie.
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Just please keep him feeling like Michael Myers. He's your og license killer and you nailed the spirit of his character from the movies.
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The Shape gameplay update. I really hope you guys do right by my boy. Please don't let him lose his identity of feeling like Michael Myers.
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@100PercentBPMain said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3983345#Comment_3983345
thankfully you're easy to keep track of
Ahhh thank you. I like to feel like the only Dweet around here lol.
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@TheGoone Thank you. I lose track of community names here.