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fine if only 1 survivor has it
busted af when used by multiple
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@AmpersandUnderscore said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3933049#Comment_3933049
the 4v1 is impossible even for nurse and blight
I'm just gonna leave this here. Most recent official stats, 69% kill rate at the top end.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/6CJPO09ORDTM/1000009368.png
Yeah, really struggling. They're merely defeating their opponents more than twice as often as the survivors are escaping.
these stats are literally useless and serve no purpose for balance talks
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only the case if you are brand new to killer
otherwise you should and often need to tunnel as the 4v1 is impossible even for nurse and blight
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in my opinion fearmonger is like the only good class
too many pallets for the faster break one
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im a killer main just to get that out of the way
- you are facing nerds most likely comp players of some sort with op builds
- you are using bad addons trapper needs his iris
- you have a ######### build build
- you are playing trapper
- you lost because all of the above
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@Cassiopeiae said:
Dredge does NOT need help
dredge is so abysmal
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because they dont care and dont see it as an issue worth fixing as it really only affects the higher level
slop jund is wrong about 90% of the things he talks about but i'm with him on this one
it's a very simple fix
they just dont care lol
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@Jock21 said:
Yeah the way some people were crying "new Chucky scamper" for both the old dog's vault speed and Vecna's Mage Hand just for both of them to end up as 2 mediocre B tier killers was really embarrassing ngl.
Think she;s bugged too snugs lingering hitbox sseems to have vanished
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@tech said:
Almost went against dbd's final boss
facts i'm not playing agasin't that though easy dodge everytime
Kinda glad though my mmr is high enough it put me in his swf lobby
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Dead Dawg isn't as killer sided as people claim You have a godlike main building and multiple safe gens the killer cant defend
Azarovs and Macmilian is actually not balanced at all and every variant but 1 on each is a survivor's dream
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game needs proxy camping at the higher levels
thats why is its ANTI FACECAMP
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lets nerf the new top 5 into b tier so we can get more blights!
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3917660#Comment_3917660
There's theoretical survivor gameplay where you're always next next to a chain of safe tiles and have perfect knowledge of the killer's position, and there's the actual realistic survivor gameplay where RNG exists, dead zones exist, and you're not able to perfectly pre-run.
what dead zones it’s the first chase aand dont lie to me you def use windows of opportunity if you still chose to run to a corner of the map with 1 unsafe pallet that's on you
and while yes rng exists it's not the thing preventing you from lasting more then 30 seconds in your first chase
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i dont understand this camp and tunnel at 5 gens thing how do you go down vs anyone but nurse before 1 gen gets done you literally have every resource available can you not stay alive by just running main building or pre dropping safe pallets for at minimum 40 seconds
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What an emotional display
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i pretty consistently get matched up with people down in central and south america
Lots of west coast California players too
I'm in Atlantic Canada so idk why
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i kinda agree with most expect deathslinger and huntress placements it's not a bad list
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it's also has a cooldown bug or a quiet nerf
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play ghoul they go next
play vecna they go next
play perkless SKULL MERCHANT and they still go next
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Gens would probably unironically be fine if they implemented the new survivor spawn rule system already
make a gen with two people take 60-70s instead of 40
and nerf wire spool socket swivels green tool box
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@beater15 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883954#Comment_3883954
Glicko is just a rating gain/loss adjuster and might also be used in matchmaking queue for some reliability, it really has nothing to do whether a game is 1v1 or not. You should read about it on the wiki page instead of relying on chatGPT to explain it, which clearly it didn't.
I also heard Choy say the same thing chatgpt pretty much I also never use wikipedia
I gotta go so i wont respond as much if at all for a while so have a nice day
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@GentlemanFridge said:
What does 'proper' mean? AFAIK, DbD is in a fairly unique position due to its asymmetry, so I'm really not sure what you mean with 'Proper MMR Rating system meant for a 1V4'.
From what I understand, They didn't even bother to attempt to use something like TrueSkill or develop their own instead they just went with the easiest thing they could do / cheapest
Glicko from what i've read and asked chatgpt is something that you can pretty much copy and paste into games without any effort It's also free so they didn;t have to pay for it
Glicko is not meant for Asyms it's meant for 1v1's and symmetricals
Edit to clarify that im not saying true skill as something they could of used instead but it's something that would most likely work better for DBD
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@TheArbiter said:
I haven't played Wesker in almost two years, but im getting ready for the next 2v8. I seem to remember that if a survivor runs into Wesker who just vaulted a pallet they automatically get hit. Multiple times today I would vault a pallet and the survivor would push past me and vault without getting hit. Am I missing something?
it's been bugged for years it broke shortly after they introduced it and it was never fixed again
the survivor has to do it a certain time so they'd call it a tech but it's just an exploit
but yea there's literally no counterplay to it so i always used lab photo before i realized that wesker actually kinda sucks and stopped playing him
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Budget clown
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@Iron_Cutlass said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3875943#Comment_3875943
Can you please show me this evidence of Tru3 matching up with other big EU streamers bar Hens?
I would but I have more important things to do with my weekend. I refuse to spend hours sifting through VODs to win a virtual argument on the internet, because it's just not an effective use of my time, It's easier to just write a response. :)
Im subbed on YouTube and watch his DBD streams a lot, and he literally never gets matched up with say Otz for example.
Otz lives in Spain. Tru3 lives in the UK.
Something, something region-based matchmaking, something something, too far away to face one another. You get the idea, I dont need to explain it further, Ive explained it before, DBD has grown a lot and has more servers for different regions that didnt have servers before, etc.
Also Otz and Tru3 primarily play Killer, Hens plays a variety of both sides, Hens is more likely to get paired against Tru3 since he plays Survivor more often… this should be obvious.
But his chat tells him all the time so I cant see why.
Not all the time.
Obviously with figure-heads of the DBD community, you will see it, but you dont need to be a figure-head in the community to be a big EU streamer so it isnt even really relevant to the discussion.
As Id say whenever he checks profiles there like at least 30% chance of the guy being a Tourney Player or Comp Player…
…Meanwhile…
…Im pulling these % out of thin air but like I said I watch Tru3's streams a lot and this is just what I observe.
(There is a long list of examples and things I could bring up but BHVR's Forum Rules wouldnt allow me, Ive had this discussion many, many times before, the dead horse has been beaten to dust by now.)
Also by extension, I dont understand why I am required to sift through hours upon hours of VODs to find examples but you can just pull a number out of thin air and it is seen as fine.
Or he could just be the most sniped DBD Streamer so that's why.
Many streamers deal with Stream Sniping… that's just one of the things about Streaming.
Tru3 isnt the most sniped, there is really no evidence to back it up, but Tru3 does bring a lot of attention to the fact that they get Stream Sniped "often" which could result in people wanting to do it for attention seeking.
Quite literally it is a prime example of this being an issue he is causing to himself.
he lives in denmark or some other nordic country from what i've seen from his twitter ads and for you section but i could be wrong but thats besides the point as he gets lots of russians and saudis and every other type of European
i think you just said tru3 goes against big streamers besides hens but you don't have anything to back it you just wanted to claim it
i'm not gonna continue this any more since you obv are not interested so good day
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3876130#Comment_3876130
Do you really think that any semi-decent Survivor would actually need something like "Killer is chasing me, do Gens"? Really?
And your story sounds more like you would have been doing fine without communication. Because your example of communication is really not something which makes SWF stand out.
literally half the posts i see about solo q are survivors complain about them getting chased and their team not doing gens
swf removes that entirely, so yes I do think they need it because otherwise people wouldn't scream my team wont do gens 24/7
these people would greaty greatly benefit from a simple "yea the killer is still chasing me you can sit there" or "He gave up and is heading towards you just run"
this was before the chase and gen ui stuff btw
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yall just coping super hard here lol
when i swfed in a 4 man, we literally had 1 player who was garbage (rip doss) and it didn't matter because we still never lost
we'd be talking about nonsense 24/7 and we'd barley even be trying
The fact is us being able to say "Yea killers chasing me do gens) was more then enough to win us games
Gens would be done in 6 mins or less every time
If Doss wasn't getting chased first, it's almost always be a 3 gen chase while 2 of us slam the other gen in 40 seconds while the other goes for the unhook
Just the fact that we all knew what the killer was doing and where they were was good enough for us to win 90% of our games or at the very least draw and deny the killer victory
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it's a feature
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@Iron_Cutlass said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3875790#Comment_3875790
Explain why Tru3 and Hens get matched up with each other constantly?
First off, Hens has gone on record to explain how flawed MMR is and they dont face each other that much compared to what you are making it out to be. They have made many Twitter posts and videos talking about it.
~ Video from 2 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHk8IcjjSXE
~ More recent example: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/F333aLMozLE
~ Another prime example: https://twitter.com/HensDBD/status/1789650564927594822https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/WL5SZC1YG4TI/screenshot-from-2025-01-24-17-58-08.png
Second off, region-based matchmaking is a thing. Tru3 and Hens are close enough to get connected towards the same servers due to region-based priority. It doesnt always happen, but it does happen.
Along with other comp players.
Half the time people say they face comp teams without it actually being players who are in the DBD Comp scene. None of this is to say "they dont face Comp teams", but moreso "they face far less than you think".
Also even still, Ive faced actual competitive teams and players, in fact a lot of people have. Ive been destroyed by MomoSeven MANY times despite being an average player and very clearly not suppose to be matchmaking with them. Matchmaking focuses on speed over quality and you are just naturally bound to face competitive teams and players, it's not something special, it's just a thing that happens every now and then.
And why the other big popular streamers in EU literally almost never get matched up with them?
They do but if you dont pay attention or watch them that much you can easily miss that.
Plus regions are a very important thing as well. A lot of people are not going to paired against Hens or Tru3 because they are not close enough to their respective regions, it's why I face the same people sometimes multiple times in a row, because region-based matchmaking takes a high priority.
If you wanna call Tru3 bad, etc… Then wouldnt that means Hens is as well?
I dont think Tru3 is that bad, they win most of their games, I do think Tru3 tends to over-inflate issues or what they perceive as issues.
I do think matchmaking is flawed though, and it opens the door for low quality matches where players are paired against other players of lower/higher skill levels instead of trying to put them at an equal skill level most of the time.Can you please show me this evidence of tru3 matching up with other big eu streamers bar hens?
Because Hens is the literal only one i ever see him match up with
iI'm subbed on youtube and watch his DBD streams a lot, and he literally never gets matched up with say Otz for example
I believe his last match vs otz was when he was playing with his ex wife or ex gf and their friends on midwitch in either early 2024 or 2023
And his last game vs ayrun was on eyrie of crows, who was in otz's swf
Where as he goes vs hens multiple times a year and i believe he just went up against him twice in like 1-2 weeks
I cant name a time in recent DBD where he went up against any big creator other than hens
He could and just not know But his chat tells him all the time so i cant see why
And while yes he doesn't face against comp players every game, im not going to pretend like he only goes up against bad survivors
As i'd say whenever he checks profiles theres like at least a 30% chance of the guy being 1v1 tourny player or comp player
And it doesn't help that a majority of comp players from my understanding use Anon Mode so it could be even higher
I'm pulling these % out of thin air but like i said i watch tru3s streams alot and this is just what i observed
Wether or not you want to call the comp players he plays Bad-Mid-Good They still play comp /1v1s and are better than a vast majority of community
Or he could just be the most sniped DBD streamer so thats why
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Keep seeing that MMR isn't real and MMR soft caps you early so everyone is at the same level
So can you explain why Tru3 and Hens get matched up with each other constantly? (along with other comp players)
And why the other big popular streamers in the EU literally almost never get matched up with them?
If you wanna call tru3 bad etc.. Then wouldn't that mean hens is as well? But wouldn't that in turn be you admitting that MMR is in fact real and it works?
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only way to make anti slug not horribly busted and abuseable would be to make it so aurvivor can hook themselves after being slugged if they want
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3875428#Comment_3875428
I just think that saying that the Mage Hand should be buffed is as equally wrong as saying it needs to be "nerfed badly".
Well agree to disagree i guess
Mage hand was fine after the first Nerf they did and devs could have kept the add-ons for it as well and it would of been acceptable
But now after all the additional nerfs it's pretty pitiful considering it has such a long cooldown and esp since you literally waste it holding a pallet if they have the haste magic item on most loops and you dont dispell them
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3875334#Comment_3875334
This is equally as wrong as what OP is saying, lol.
@Topic:
The Mage Hand has the longest Cooldown of all of his abilities (Fly 25 seconds, Flight of the Damned and Dispelling Sphere 35 seconds and Mage Hand 40 seconds). And I think the ability is overall fine, ideally you search Chests for the Interlooper-Item anyway, which makes it easier to deal with the Mage Hand.
How so?
Care to elaborate?
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If anything, it needs a lower cooldown by of like 10 seconds and a buff to it's hold time to be reverted to what it was pre his most recent nerf 😆
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@indieeden7 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3874968#Comment_3874968
Who mocked Tru3 for saying wins should be based around hooks? It's been pretty much UNIVERSALLY agreed upon for years
no it hasn't
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@Langweilig said:
How could you think it was a bug?
It always worked like way and it was pretty obvious, that it was intended that way. Should it get changed for xeno and Sadako? - Yes, but it should stay like it is on the other killers. It is only a disadvantage for Sadako and xeno.
Because chests offerings should not replace killer power spawns and turn some killers literally unplayable
it was not obvious in the slightest, btw
Nothing is with BHVR
Bugs suddenly become features
Features are suddenly declared bugs on a whim
Such a bone headed comment bro
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@Shodan79 said:
I mean TRU doesn't have any skills that apply in the real world. If he need to be a "Big Man" in video games then good for him.
this is just mean and hatful for no reason
the sad thing is it isn't even true lol
he was a graphic design guy before streaming
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it could last forever if the majority of killer perks weren't straight useless
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@AmpersandUnderscore said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3874968#Comment_3874968
They were right to shoot down this suggestion because it's awful.
The only thing people seem to care about more than winning is getting easy games. So if they based MMR on hooks, people would simply try to kill survivors (and win) yet not use hooks to do so, giving them easier games.
Oh look, an excessive slugging meta.
Yea making the CHASE game about hooks instead of kills is awful idea
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First of all the time to make the game about hooks over kills was years ago when MMR first came out
Yall mocked people like tru3 for saying it and here we are
Secondly There is nothing you can do to stop people from giving up in DBD You can only make it as hard as possible
A good start would be to remove self unhook
AND make it so Survivors either get kicked from the game is the have 3 crows for too long when not slugged
You cant stop pallet griefing but you can make it reportable
Also yes i know killers can bodyblock to give a survivor a dc penalty with #2 but i assume that would be fixed if they added it
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no i have fun with using strong perks and builds
chaos shuffle removes that
also killer needs their perks way more then survivor
far far easier to win with 0 survivor perks then 0 killer perks
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@ratcoffee said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3874638#Comment_3874638
newsflash: survivors can only use their own perks
Wow really who woulda known
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@mecca said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3874592#Comment_3874592
Perks is not a solution, I only have 4 perks. Besides, I've had unbreakable before and guess what, it's only 1 time. Killer slugs again and now I have a dead perk. Meanwhile, killer can slug indefinitely. See the problem yet?
killer has 4 perks
yall have 12 total
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3874404#Comment_3874404
Gestures vaguely to every killer perk that activates on a hook. They don't need to buff hooks. You just want all the upside of a mechanic and none of the counterplay from the other side.
Those perks are garbage lol
Pain res worst it's even been
Pop worst it's ever been
Grim is overrated and generally isn't very good
DMS can be baited extremely easily, and you only lose a few seconds doing so
Gen Defense perks arn't worth using anymore
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buff going for hooks then
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Yea maybe flashlight saves required skill and precision before but they're super easy dude
So what base kit tenacity? lol
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gen rush
games over in 3 flat everytime
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because the game has no way of detecting a crash or intentional quit