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Yeah, I think they don't going to do that.... so, how about my topic critics?
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@Master said:
The truth is that BHVR will NEVER go through the trouble of developing two versions of the same game.The devs decided to hide the perks because SWF were able to comunicate the killers perks after they died and their mates still ingame were able to take an unfair advantage out of that. (That has nothing to do with console/PC btw)
Thats why I say its important that we get ingame voice comms, only this way the gap between SWF and soloplayer can be closed properly
This never happen on PC without Discord. The same problem affects Solo players who don't enter Discord on PC. Is this happen a lot on Consoles, why they don't create a method for balance this, and not every players? If ingame voice arrive, well, this will be awesome.... and I agree with you
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@Jack11803 said:
@Hesmart said:
Master said:Even solo players can communicate with each other via the platforms voice chat or messaging system.
If you are really unsure whether the killer cheated, simply take a break, stretch for a minute and wait until the game is over. It really doesnt take too long, unless there is a survivor holding the game hostage hiding in some bush, but that doesnt happen too often
Are you saying about voice chat on console? PC dont have that
Well console does
Yeah, PC don't. But I like playing old school mode, without any comunication set. Just paying atention to the sound of the game and survivor's signals.
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@Alphaphalt said:
Hag can't be blinded at pallets she's too small 4head.What, I blind Hag all the time lol
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Are you saying about voice chat on console? PC dont have thatMaster said:Even solo players can communicate with each other via the platforms voice chat or messaging system.
If you are really unsure whether the killer cheated, simply take a break, stretch for a minute and wait until the game is over. It really doesnt take too long, unless there is a survivor holding the game hostage hiding in some bush, but that doesnt happen too often -
Consider my DC as a protest.TheBean said:@Hesmart said:
I hope people debate coherently about the gameplay, and do not come joking and contempt my concidering. Seeing that you are one of these people, I expect nothing from you. It's like waiting for a main killer to agree with me, it will not happen;It is one thing to be debating / discussing gameplay....
It is another to come here and complain about balance and fairness, when you say you'll disconnect cause YOU think it isn't fair.
Interesting. So you want us to say it is "ok" to ruin the fun / game for 4 others in the match cause you aren't having fun?
Sorry me no stroke you. I will hand you a tissue though.
It is hard to get people to agree with disconnecting in a match cause you refuse to play it out simply cause YOU find it unfair. I'm sure there are others out there like you. You and them can have your pity party together.
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weirdkid5 said:
I mean the Depip Squad will show you even top level Nurses cave to the tactics of smart Survivors.
She isn't impossible. She just requires different gameplay than any other Killer currently has.
I hate when people use top level Killers as an example for what is possible, when it's pretty much a fact that most Survivors in this game are incapable of using evasion tactics outside of looping, which is why they die to Nurses super quick. And now you are quitting the games with Nurses because YOU perceive it to not be fair.
If the Nurse was super OP, they would have done something about her, but she isn't. The devs consider her fair and that's how it is. Even the best Nurses can't keep up with a coordinated gen rush and smart evasion tactics that go beyond "mindgames."
As long as team chatter and the rush maintains its place in the meta, the Nurse should maintain hers as well.
If MOST Survivors in this game can't use evasion tactics, even the top players, so this isn't working, correctly right? If evasion tactics is the ONLY measure against Nurse and even so MOST players can't survive, so this is a broken logic of the game. If that's the mechanics they want for her, then they need to balance that. Further diminish her ability to perceive silent survivors or do something for MOST SURVIVORS can deal with her, for that be BALANCED.
And again, genrush is meta, is part of the main objective of the survivor. It's so funny to read someone complaining about "genrush". Ok, if that's a big problem, slow down the generators, but balance the OP killers.
Like they said, DBD is a Asymmetrical game, killer depend on his own, and survivor depends on others. Isn't this more difficult? -
@xXNurseXx said:
@Hesmart said:
I hope people debate coherently about the gameplay, and do not come joking and contempt my concidering. Seeing that you are one of these people, I expect nothing from you. It's like waiting for a main killer to agree with me, it will not happen;
bro every god nurse like zubatlel or me will agree with you that nurse is complete broken and unbalanced. so what? devs wont nerf her so get used to die against good nurses.
pro tipp: if you cant beat them, join them and enjoy your easy 4ks
You are an exception. Most main killer I know do not want it to be balanced or they think that survivors have many advantages over killer, but they do not.
I play ass survivor, but all I want is fair game for everyone. And I expect devs make something
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I hope people debate coherently about the gameplay, and do not come joking and contempt my concidering. Seeing that you are one of these people, I expect nothing from you. It's like waiting for a main killer to agree with me, it will not happen;
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@Slayer said:
First of all you need to run iron will its just must have perk to break a chase and its good against any killer to not let them know where re you when they cant see you .A killer can deal with all survivors perk. But a survivor had to use the correct perk everytime? At least let us know what killer are we going to face
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I didn't expect nothing from you
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@Attackfrog said:
I didn't read the entire thread, so maybe it's already said, but two things:- Have you tried watching YouTube videos of people playing against nur se? It might help (helped me with a few killers)
- Maybe you are just out matched. No offense meant. I know when I am playing against a very good survivor who knows how to loop and juke that I am probably just out played. I don't practice enough and maybe I am just not good enough to beat him/her, so bottom line is that player is just plain better than I am. Might be the case here.
Yes, I watch youtube videos all the time and it helped me a lot againt killers. I learned how to juke, loop, flash light etc. Everything that helps the survivors you can find in Youtube. But not againt Nurse. There are any video teaching how to beat Nurse, except people saying that the only measure is mind game her. This isn't a tool. Is just a tactic.... ONE tactic that not every Nurse fall, even more so if they are good players.
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@Lateral said:
@Bongbingbing said:
I mean the Devs did tell us to play Nurse or billy if we want to win
For real though, She's my only answer to SWF so I'm slowly becoming a nurse main at this point.
Billy and Nurse are both OP for different reasons:
Billy: OP because hand-held easymode crutch
Nurse: OP because /Skill
One deserves your respect, the other not so much.
I may agree with you. OP Nurse players have skills. But, even skilled survivors can't beat skilled Nurse. Because Nurse don't follow the rules of the game. It had a broken mechanics. See what I mean?
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@redsopine01 said:
Hesmart said:@redsopine01 said:
Suck it up dude I play solo and I've had nurses that have destroyed me and the others all game lol who gives a buck it's a game you have to adapt to outlay a good nurse one being use the fing pallets smartly you have to screw the screen backwards to se her and know the layout playing a good nurse is basicly the true name of the game unless you earn it
How people can be so selfish. If no one cared about being a survivor, there would be no killer, as there would be no game to play. But that's what it is, A GAME, and it has to be good for both sides
Again you will never improve your game unless you play them the more you do the more you understand how top nurses play and thus can learn to adept faster
I'm rank 1... so I've playing this for so long, and my original post still valid.
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@Mister_xD said:
if you want to learn the specific counter plays to certain killers, i suggest you start playing these killers for yourself and see where their strengths and weaknesses are.the nurse is very strong at chasing, but she really sucks at finding. break LoS and hide properly, then the nurse will have a bad time.
however, you do need to be aware that killers can use anti stealth loadouts, so many nurses will try to cover their weakness with that.There you are, broken.
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@Master said:
@Hesmart said:
I'm rank 1 survivor and don't know how to avoid a rank 1 nurse. I'm getting frustrated every time I hear the Nurse's noise in the beginning of the match. Isn't fair. Is unbalanced e NOT FUN at all.Take the second OP killer for a instance: Billy. He can cross the map in seconds and even down you in 1 hit. But he is not broken. We can deal with it. We can drop palets, climb windows to go againt he very powerfull capability. For sure rank 1 Billys win most of the games I join, but he is BALANCED!
Some can say "but you can mind game Nurse". Rank 1 Nurse don't fall for mind games or jukes. The game stops being competitive to be a laboratory of survivor rats. The only chance survivors have is take a noob player with nurse or not enough experience with her.
Enough for me. Everytime I see a prestige or with fancy skin Nurse I'll know that this guy is not joking, and I'll just leave the match.
We have the devs advice to switch roles in such asituation, i.e. you simply play killer.
If you get bored of that too, you switch to another game, they say that civ 5 is quite decentI didn't get the Civ 6 joke yet.
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@twistedmonkey said:
And this is why they removed killer profiles from the lobby.It's a case of deal with it, nurse players can be bad or god like but they are beatable by not playing how you do versus other killers.
Be stealthy, don't use your normal pallet or window dash, change directions while running sporadically and try to escape them as if you try to run a good nurse around you are going down.
I'm not saying about Rank 5 Nurse. I'm talking about very professional rank 1 Nurse. There is no chance, no jukes, no stealthy, no movements can beat a rank 1 Nurse... Isn't competitive, Isn't fair. Is just a lost game.
Rank 1 professional Billy otherwise is balanced. He sure can win most matchs, but is a fair game.
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@TheBean said:
Please stop playing if you feel you need to DC to ruin the game for everyone.
Nurse game is already ruined. Isn't a fair game, so I will DC too
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@tt_ivi_99 said:
Axelson said:@tt_ivi_99 said:
Nurse is exactly what all killers should be like, a force to fear in the eyes of survivors.
When survivors play against her they are not in control of the match, unlike when playing against any other killer. Every killer below Billy tier is weak in this game, Billy and Nurse are a great example of power and they can make matches more even against SWF. They basically are the counter to SWF.
That being said, you just need to play super stealthy, try to be as unpredictable as you can or play SWF because the Nurse is staying as she is right now.
Do you know that don't all the players are swf, right? I play 99,9% of my matches solo, only sometimes (it passes very rare) i play with my friends, the last time i did it was in november. Why solo players have to suffer too because of swf?
Because devs dont want to difference between solo and swf.
I've always thought that killers should have different tiers; tier 1 against solo, tier 2 against 2 SWF and so on...
Finally we are evolving in the discussion! I also think solo players should be split from SWF players. Isn't fair for killers play it againt people using Discord or some #########... the game was draw to not use comunication tools, and I agree! But I play solo and I dont gain nothing for do this.
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@JLew said:
Ya...as a rank1 surv main...nurse is a pain but you just cannot stroll leisurely across open areas...stay low with urban evasion and hope she does not see you...unless her add ons are beast she is workable...unless you are seen...but ive always tried to remember...you are NOT supposed to surviveMore jokes
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@Unnamed_Freak said:
@Hesmart said:
I'm rank 1 survivor and don't know how to avoid a rank 1 nurse. I'm getting frustrated every time I hear the Nurse's noise in the beginning of the match. Isn't fair. Is unbalanced e NOT FUN at all.Take the second OP killer for a instance: Billy. He can cross the map in seconds and even down you in 1 hit. But he is not broken. We can deal with it. We can drop palets, climb windows to go againt he very powerfull capability. For sure rank 1 Billys win most of the games I join, but he is BALANCED!
Some can say "but you can mind game Nurse". Rank 1 Nurse don't fall for mind games or jukes. The game stops being competitive to be a laboratory of survivor rats. The only chance survivors have is take a noob player with nurse or not enough experience with her.
Enough for me. Everytime I see a prestige or with fancy skin Nurse I'll know that this guy is not joking, and I'll just leave the match.
Mate, try to learn how to stealth and how to lose LOS with jukes before complaining here.
Nurse is fine, she's the only killer that can control the match if the player have learned her.
I think you even read my original post. Try again.
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@redsopine01 said:
Suck it up dude I play solo and I've had nurses that have destroyed me and the others all game lol who gives a buck it's a game you have to adapt to outlay a good nurse one being use the fing pallets smartly you have to screw the screen backwards to se her and know the layout playing a good nurse is basicly the true name of the game unless you earn itHow people can be so selfish. If no one cared about being a survivor, there would be no killer, as there would be no game to play. But that's what it is, A GAME, and it has to be good for both sides
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This is funny to ready because you really think this game is draw only for killers fun. This is a game, it should be goog for both sides. And I dont play swf. Im playing alone almost all the time. Should I pay for that?tt_ivi_99 said:Nurse is exactly what all killers should be like, a force to fear in the eyes of survivors.
When survivors play against her they are not in control of the match, unlike when playing against any other killer.
Every killer below Billy tier is weak in this game, Billy and Nurse are a great example of power and they can make matches more even against SWF. They basically are the counter to SWF.
That being said, you just need to play super stealthy, try to be as unpredictable as you can or play SWF because the Nurse is staying as she is right now.
And like a mentioned, Billy is fair. Nurse isnt -
KissyKissy was sacartic too. And you fools fall in the bait
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For dumb comments, yes. Try to focus on the question. Thank you.Do I really have to spell out the word "sarcasm" in every post I use it in so people like you get it? Talk about embarrassing posts lmfao. -
What you mean?Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:Don't wanna face a Nurse? Try out Civ 5, my friend.