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So...we're buffing Judgement and nerfing Knight?

AliceNull AliceNull
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Why? No, seriously, for what reason? Judgement is already shaking out to be a rather strong killer even with the zealous control value at 0.3 seconds, and Knight is barely in the bottom of B- if you're being charitable. Neither of these changes are coming with compensation nerfs or buffs to account for this, either, so, again…why?

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  • pidgeon pidgeon

    The guards always behaved like this to my knowledge I might be schizophrenic though who knows.

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  • AliceNull AliceNull

    @pidgeon said:

    The guards always behaved like this to my knowledge I might be schizophrenic though who knows.

    My bad if thats the normal interaction (I don't see many knights being quite honest with you) but if its all well and normal why is it in the update section alongside another killer getting a straight buff? Not doubting you, its just weird they'd put it there.

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  • Bloodraven Bloodraven

    Whooooa an increase of 0.3 seconds, steady on now, these killer buffs are getting outta hand.

    Honestly dunno why they felt the need to kneecap the Knight further though… guy just doesn't deserve it.

    Also to whoever you are above me, Vigil still viable it just isn't completely broken now for 0 effort.

  • Balrog Balrog

    Calling them buffs and nerfs can oversimplify the intention behind today's changes. For example, the curve allows for more skill expression without it being a dramatic change.

    The Knight change allows for the Guards to phase through a pallet whilst dropped on them, or return the Guard power to the Knight if the pathing around a pallet is greater than 48m. This is a compromise between the phasing and how the power previously would leave the Knight without a power whilst a Guard followed a long path around a dropped pallet.

  • Bloodraven Bloodraven

    @Balrog said:

    Calling them buffs and nerfs can oversimplify the intention behind today's changes. For example, the curve allows for more skill expression without it being a dramatic change.

    The Knight change allows for the Guards to phase through a pallet whilst dropped on them, or return the Guard power to the Knight if the pathing around a pallet is greater than 48m. This is a compromise between the phasing and how the power previously would leave the Knight without a power whilst a Guard followed a long path around a dropped pallet.

    Appreciate the explanation 👍

  • AliceNull AliceNull

    @Balrog said:

    Calling them buffs and nerfs can oversimplify the intention behind today's changes. For example, the curve allows for more skill expression without it being a dramatic change.

    The Knight change allows for the Guards to phase through a pallet whilst dropped on them, or return the Guard power to the Knight if the pathing around a pallet is greater than 48m. This is a compromise between the phasing and how the power previously would leave the Knight without a power whilst a Guard followed a long path around a dropped pallet.

    Thank you for stepping in to give some explicit reasoning behind the changes.

  • Balrog Balrog

    @AliceNull said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4113623#Comment_4113623

    Thank you for stepping in to give some explicit reasoning behind the changes.

    Happy to share, thank you for asking!

  • pidgeon pidgeon

    @AliceNull said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4113598#Comment_4113598

    My bad if thats the normal interaction (I don't see many knights being quite honest with you) but if its all well and normal why is it in the update section alongside another killer getting a straight buff? Not doubting you, its just weird they'd put it there.

    Yeah you could predrop pallets to make guards have a super long path, and stunning guards would just get you injured iirc. I think this change is to stop the Knight player from thinking the guard has a chance of hitting a survivor, instead they just return to the Knight which is pretty nice.

  • pidgeon pidgeon

    @AliceNull said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4113598#Comment_4113598

    My bad if thats the normal interaction (I don't see many knights being quite honest with you) but if its all well and normal why is it in the update section alongside another killer getting a straight buff? Not doubting you, its just weird they'd put it there.

    Apparently I was wrong, according to another post this used to be a bug. (Which is what I was referring to) Then they fixed the bug, and added it back this patch.

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