Killers should get the bloodpoints / ticks when abandoning a match of bots

Honestly I'm a little scared to suggest this because I know there will be the bad actors who take advantage of it, but I think that when an team of survivors abandons, when the killer abandons they should get the bp and ticks for killing them.

In my experience, there have been many times in a game where the survivors have played poorly and let me snowball the game, leading to, say, one person dead, one person on hook, and two people downed. When the last person gets downed, everyone in the match receives the option to abandon, of which the survivors almost always do unless they want the few extra points from struggling (if they even get that considering the final kill mori). If they abandon, those few points are all they miss out on.

However, if the killer actually wants the bp, ticks, and overall credit for the kills, they have to spend a bunch of time going around "cleaning up": finding, picking up, carrying, and hooking survivors, and either waiting for all but one other survivor to die for the final mori or spending time hooking the last survivor as well. It just feels like I'm cleaning up the trash, especially on big maps, while the rest of the players have been able to move on to the next game 2 minutes ago. I think giving the rewards to killers in this situation would make it a lot more streamlined of an experience.

The concern I have with this is that there will be players who will take advantage of it and purposely play to try and make survivors DC until the entire team has left and the killer gets the rewards without even having to properly win the game. What do you guys think?

Comments

  • Killers dont get BP for abandoning? I've never done it but I assumed they did since survivors do (I think?)

    Personally I've always felt you should clean up the mess you made. An extra minute or two to solidify a win isn't that big of an ask.

    The concern I have with this is that there will be players who will take advantage of it and purposely play to try and make survivors DC until the entire team has left and the killer gets the rewards without even having to properly win the game

    There are already people who do this and abandon to smurf.

  • @cogsturning said:

    Killers dont get BP for abandoning? I've never done it but I assumed they did since survivors do (I think?)

    Personally I've always felt you should clean up the mess you made. An extra minute or two to solidify a win isn't that big of an ask.

    The concern I have with this is that there will be players who will take advantage of it and purposely play to try and make survivors DC until the entire team has left and the killer gets the rewards without even having to properly win the game

    There are already people who do this and abandon to smurf.

    Killers keep the BP they earned during the game, but what the OP is referring to is that by abandoning, the killer misses out on the hooking/sacrificing blood points they would have earned from hooking the survivor.

    Personally I think the fact that abandoning counts as a loss is the bigger issue. I don't know how it affects MMR currently, but I think at that point if everyone has left/died, then it should count as a win so it can't be abused.

  • @BlightedDolphin said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4105242#Comment_4105242

    Killers keep the BP they earned during the game, but what the OP is referring to is that by abandoning, the killer misses out on the hooking/sacrificing blood points they would have earned from hooking the survivor.

    Personally I think the fact that abandoning counts as a loss is the bigger issue. I don't know how it affects MMR currently, but I think at that point if everyone has left/died, then it should count as a win so it can't be abused.

    Does it count as a loss? Because doing so on survivor deletes the match from your history entirely. And as far as anyone can tell, bots don't give MMR since they're just empty shells, so the killer gets a 4k and no MMR gain. Hence why it's used for smurfing.

    Again, if you want to slug a whole team you should clean up your mess and get the BP from performing the action. It was your choice to do, and the abandon option is just that—optional. The game will also give you the option if all four people DC at match start too. It probably can't tell the difference between scenarios. It just sees all bots and the option appears, and that whould give killers 4ks just because everyone left 10s in.

  • @cogsturning said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4105455#Comment_4105455

    Does it count as a loss? Because doing so on survivor deletes the match from your history entirely. And as far as anyone can tell, bots don't give MMR since they're just empty shells, so the killer gets a 4k and no MMR gain. Hence why it's used for smurfing.

    Again, if you want to slug a whole team you should clean up your mess and get the BP from performing the action. It was your choice to do, and the abandon option is just that—optional. The game will also give you the option if all four people DC at match start too. It probably can't tell the difference between scenarios. It just sees all bots and the option appears, and that whould give killers 4ks just because everyone left 10s in.

    No it counts as a draw in that situation its a loss for killer if they use the abandon feature where they can abandon after 10 minutes of no gen being finished.

  • @Wezqu said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4105488#Comment_4105488

    No it counts as a draw in that situation its a loss for killer if they use the abandon feature where they can abandon after 10 minutes of no gen being finished.

    How does that look on the stats page? Two random survivors dead and two alive?

    Abd what if the killer had two dead and two alive with the gen one? It shows the dead survivors as alive?

  • @cogsturning said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4105531#Comment_4105531

    How does that look on the stats page? Two random survivors dead and two alive?

    Abd what if the killer had two dead and two alive with the gen one? It shows the dead survivors as alive?

    Abandoned match are not counted in stats so it does not matter how it really is shown.

  • @Wezqu said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4105539#Comment_4105539

    Abandoned match are not counted in stats so it does not matter how it really is shown.

    DCs aren't counted in official stats but I don't recall them ever talking about how abandons count. There are abandons on the survivor side in basically every match killers win. They can't toss out every bit of data.

    And it kinda does matter considering that pesonal stats are the only thing we have to know our own numbers.


  • @Salafur said:

    Should a game be a win for the killer when no survivor escaped and there are only bots alive so the killer can skip the game without losing his bloodpoints?

    asked for the same month ago