Wow they actually did it. They made the game more survivor sided
The tunneling, camping and slugging aren"t the only reason why people are quiting the game. Its also because gens are flying way to fast, the meta is stale and repetetive and the reason why killers are tunneling, camping and slugging is because those are strategies to win And IT DOESN"T ALWAYS MEAN THAT KILLERS ARE ######### JUST BECAUSE OF IT. Killers for example are slugging because cause of the meta or sabo team(sabo teams aren"t often but still) if generators are going to fast then why can"t killers slug? To be clear the upcoming changes for them aren"t that bad But like for killers getting only bloodlust effect and more bloodpoints? like WHY? WHY CAN"T THEY HAVE MORE JUST LIKE IN THE LAST PTB WITHOUT THE PUNISHMENT LIKE WHERE COULD HAVE BASEKIT BARBECUE AND CHILLIE OR POP, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT!? I hate to say it but i feel like that you BHVR are survivor sided. plus in the livestream when you were talking about the maps. the gideon meat plant you had no idea like it is the map with the most slugging. Its becuase its litterally an pallet factory like why can"t we have less pallets but more vaults? And one more thing PLS DO SOMETHING TO THE SURVIVOR META LIKE PERKS ADDONS, ITEMS ETC. (keys, maps, fog viles, flashlights, medkits and toolboxes are fine without addons but the addons need some changes and we can"t forget that there is Genrushing that isn"t capped (the same with healing) and also the stake out and hyperfocus meta. Overall playing killers right now are misserable and if the changes from ptb hits live then its gonna be even worse then ever before.
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Doing gens is a problem. Meta perks are a problem. Healing is a problem. Pallets are a problem. Utterly useless items like maps, keys, and fog vials are a problem.
And you want basekit aura read just because?
Sounds fair.
i am not saying that everything is bad but if you look on anyone from youtube they know what they are talking about for example quietkills or JCglitchmaster. what i meant is that if they want to keep buffing survivors then they should do the same thing for killers they are getting nothing
I don't care what streamers who treat the game like a job think.
at least we can say that survivors (especially with the upcoming changes are gonna be busted while killers get NOTHING
i don"T mind the changes that much but the fact that killers get nothing is awful.
They do it because it's abusable. I can't count how many matches where killers slug and tunnel at 5 gens. Now you get punished for it. Gen speeds are fine they were already nerfed. Do better at creating more pressure.
How much was the gen speeds nerfed? because its still riddicilous
I dont honestly believe that BHVR is purposely survivor sided, but I do believe they are willfully ignorant to the power difference across the killer roster. Some killers simply "play DBD" a lot better than others do, and its part of why people argue about things like this. While a survivor might be thinking about nurse and blight, a killer might be thinking about someone like skull merchant. The wide range of strengths mean that people's perspectives are going to be weighted on which end they're focusing on in their considerations.
Just like how its hard to buff solo queue without buffing SWFs, the same applies to blanket adjustments to the killer side. That said, I feel like thats also a big part of why there's so much pushback about the survey wording, as many of the adjustments to the survivor complaints listed are going to directly affect many killers due to that disparity. Its commonly recognized that punishing SWF is bad because most of them do not exploit the potential of communication, and that the approach should instead be on lifting Solo up to bridge the gap, they even allude to this in the stream, but when something like the incentives for fresh hooks make a perfect scenario for killer specific effects to bridge the gap, its not even a consideration.
Its not so much that they are survivor sided, they just oversimplify the issues many killers face, and its generally done either because they don't account for the variable strengths of the roster, or because they aren't willing to put in the work to do it when the opportunity presents itself. Calling it bias is the alternative to calling it either unintuitive, lazy, or reductionist. The survey issue wouldn't have been such an issue if these things were handled equally, even though its admittedly more work to address for more variables than the static stats survivors deal with outside of perks and items. That said, compromises like grouping killers based on common categories (stealth, ranged, dash ability, whatever prominent factors are shared) and going with that would at least prove those sentimentalities less accurate. Simply put, for all of the people who are upset their side is losing something in the us vs them war, a lot of other people are just disappointed to hear the wording paired with the results. Especially when such a focus is put on player satisfaction being a determining balancing factor.
You sure? Now tunnelers will tunnel on 5 gens because they know its harder to tunnel so they need more time and punished? Hooking one guy twice is more punished now than turbo tunneling survivor on 5 gens only weaker killers are effected by these changes your tunneling blights,nurses and ghouls maybe got very little slap on their wrist but thats all.
Maybe if you spent less time doom-scrolling on YouTube, you'd be less stressed about a proposed update that hasn't even hit PTB yet and may not even hit live
I just wanna say that everything that i am saying is just MY opinion and i am not saying it just because of anyone else on youtube or anywhere else.
And IT DOESN"T ALWAYS MEAN THAT KILLERS ARE ######### JUST BECAUSE OF IT.Sure, but that's true of everything that has ever been nerfed. Just because something is overall a problem for a game does not mean every individual who uses it is a problem.
But like for killers getting only bloodlust effect and more bloodpoints? like WHY?60% kill rate target which, according to their latest worldwide stats, they are slightly above.
WHY CAN"T THEY HAVE MORE JUST LIKE IN THE LAST PTB WITHOUT THE PUNISHMENT LIKE WHERE COULD HAVE BASEKIT BARBECUE AND CHILLIE OR POP, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT!?Because the punishment went hand in hand with the buffs, which no one seemed to get. The more survivors get, the more killers do, works in reverse as well.
I hate to say it but i feel like that you BHVR are survivor sided.As mentioned, they have a 60% KR target. If they were survivor sided that would never stay true.
And one more thing PLS DO SOMETHING TO THE SURVIVOR META LIKE PERKS ADDONS, ITEMS ETC. (keys, maps, fog vilesThe strongest way to use keys was recently nerfed.
And fog vials? The speed at which those were nerfs was like BHVR had come up with their own version of a speed run.