No Lithe changes huh?

Remeber when the devs used to make changes to oversaturated perks? Lithe has been in 99.9% of my games as killer and it is just so freaking annoying man. It needs a subtle change at least bc half the killer roster loses a chase due to Lithe.

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  • Survivors are not allowed to have good perks

  • Pretty sure the community finally agreed on something a while back and told the devs that nerfing things simply and only due to popularity (pick rate) was a terrible way to go.

  • What subtle change do you propose then?

  • Yall just downvote anything that even hints at survivor changes ha!

  • @GuardianoftheCrystal said:

    Yall just downvote anything that even hints at survivor changes ha!

    You get downvoted because your posts are just complaining about something then offer no solution. But no it must be survivor bias.

  • I honestly do not know. My first thought was extend the cooldown slightly. Idk if there are perks that block downed pallets but doubt.

  • @BorisDDAA said:

    What subtle change do you propose then?

    instead of giving haste it should instantly down the survivor xD

  • The perk is not even that bad and has perks that can counter it,

    mindbreaker is good counter all tho killswitched atm

    Languid touch is also another perk that ive seen used and is a great counter to lithe because if you scare a crow before you vault you don't get lithe

    gentic limits can be used on more stealth killers well as they can sneak up and get first hit for free then you are exhausted if they commit to chase.

    Also alot killers have ad ons that cause exhaustion (eg Spring trap, Huntress, Chucky, Ghost Face, Houndmaster and many more)

  • Perks should not be nerfed or buffed based only on pick rate.

  • @Rudjohns said:

    Survivors are not allowed to have good perks

    They're not allowed niche perks, either. Anything the killer can see happening is considered unreasonable.

  • @BorisDDAA said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4020386#Comment_4020386

    You get downvoted because your posts are just complaining about something then offer no solution. But no it must be survivor bias.

    I don’t even think Lithe on its own is a problem. Like don’t get me wrong this perk basically turns any Survivor into a Neanderthal with two brain cells competing for third place but on its own I don’t think it’s problematic. I think the real problem is when it’s combined with perks like Finesse and W.O.O is where it actually becomes a bit of an issue. So no, you don’t need Nerf Lithe you just need to nerf the perks that make Lithe what it is.

  • @TheGoon224 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4020391#Comment_4020391

    I don’t even think Lithe on its own is a problem. Like don’t get me wrong this perk basically turns any Survivor into a Neanderthal with two brain cells competing for third place but on its own I don’t think it’s problematic. I think the real problem is when it’s combined with perks like Finesse and W.O.O is where it actually becomes a bit of an issue. So no, you don’t need Nerf Lithe you just need to nerf the perks that make Lithe what it is.

    Yes. Survivors who run WOO and Lithe are annoying and with the pallet density update even more. But they're not good at looping. Deadhard and Sprint burst are way stronger for decent players anyway.

  • @GuardianoftheCrystal said:

    Remeber when the devs used to make changes to oversaturated perks? Lithe has been in 99.9% of my games as killer and it is just so freaking annoying man. It needs a subtle change at least bc half the killer roster loses a chase due to Lithe.

    Just because a perk is popular does not mean it's busted. Lithe isn't even the best exhaustion, thats Sprint Burst.

  • Why is Lithe a problem? It exists for years and it's not even good on some few maps and it can be countered quited easily by any exhaustion add-on/perk.

  • Lithe isn't even the best exhaustion perk. SB and DH are both far better.

  • @CosmicScarab said:

    Lithe isn't even the best exhaustion perk. SB and DH are both far better.

    I’m pretty sure dramaturgy is even better than Lithe because that perk is basically just old dead hard.

  • @ratcoffee said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4020385#Comment_4020385

    instead of giving haste it should instantly down the survivor xD

    Sounds like something a killer main would say. lol Lithe isn't even that good. You have to vault to get what? 3 seconds of haste? Plus theres a huge cooldown for exhaustion perks. I find them overrated. Using them makes you lazy when learning survivor I think.

  • @Colt45m said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4020400#Comment_4020400

    Sounds like something a killer main would say. lol Lithe isn't even that good. You have to vault to get what? 3 seconds of haste? Plus theres a huge cooldown for exhaustion perks. I find them overrated. Using them makes you lazy when learning survivor I think.

    I was trying to make a joke sorry if it wasn't clear

  • What about nerfing corrupt, pain res, POP or something else that helps the killers?

    Those killer mains really don't want surviviors to have decent perks.

    Run exhaustion perks or addons if perks are a problem to you.

  • Perks in DBD are exactlyyyyy like cards in Magic: The Gathering (MTG). The pool of good cards is extremely small. Some of them are niche, some of them have synergy, some of them are must-haves, and some of them are “junk” (meaning they serve a general purpose). But most cards are simply bad.

    Since DBD perks represent this, only a small amount of perks will be used. Exhaustion perks, for the most part, are guaranteed to work. We want guarantees in MTG, and we want guarantees in DBD.

    Once the pool of good perks widens, then there will be more variety.

  • @vol4r said:

    What about nerfing corrupt, pain res, POP or something else that helps the killers?

    Those killer mains really don't want surviviors to have decent perks.

    Run exhaustion perks or addons if perks are a problem to you.

    Those perks aren't that bad. What really needs nerfed in my opinion is some of the hex perks particularly devour hope. Pretty stupid it has build in tombstone when you're at 0 hooks. Plus three effects. Really?

  • @Colt45m said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4020844#Comment_4020844

    Those perks aren't that bad. What really needs nerfed in my opinion is some of the hex perks particularly devour hope. Pretty stupid it has build in tombstone when you're at 0 hooks. Plus three effects. Really?

    I've got thousands of hours and I was moried from devour maybe 2-3 times in general. You just cleanse the totem, unhook last second or unhook near the killer ;p its extremely easy to play against

  • @vol4r said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4021184#Comment_4021184

    I've got thousands of hours and I was moried from devour maybe 2-3 times in general. You just cleanse the totem, unhook last second or unhook near the killer ;p its extremely easy to play against

    Hats off to you for avoiding it. lol My team never wants to look for totems everytime i play.