Is AFK Crows disabled or people already found a way to bypass it?
Just had a match that 2 survs were already out, there was this Jane trying to do gens and I was not letting her and no sign of the 4th surv.
I was letting Jane on the floor from time to time to check the progress of the 4 remaining gens and they were left untouched.
This scenario extended for 5 minutes because after 2 I've decided to stress test the AFK Crows and didn't got a single notification.
The only explanation I have is that the 4th surv was interacting with a Hex totem and letting go before completing it, which still is a flaw of the system.
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Honestly it sounds like they're tuned properly.
Crows are theoretically meant to flag survivors who could make a valid play but are choosing not to. It sounds like you might just be trying to weaponize them for a 4K which is not their intent.
You mentioned you were patrolling gens, downing the Jane repeatedly but not hooking her - playing for hatch or trying to avoid you are valid plays there. You mentioned you were letting the Jane on the floor - how was she getting up? Presumably the other player was coming in for a save if it happened more than once, yes?
I was picking her up to avoid a bleed out.
The match finished with me letting Jane go (because she was at least playing doing gens), but after she left for some reason I've found the 4th surv standing still and he didn't tried to escape, but he was close to a Hex and this detail is the reason I've mentioned cleansing totems and stopping to avoid AFK Crows.
After fnaf update and issues with crows, it seems…. They maybe fixed it?
I saw only one person with crows in all matches I can remember now
If by fixing they made it useless again, then yes they fixed.
This was suppose to prevent excessive hiding and this match of mine shows it (unless the totem scenario is true, which just means they have to tune it).
Idk, not sure game in current state can be balanced even around this moment
Crows got nerfed because prior ones were apperently working too good because like even not doing gens for 15seconds would give first crow and then not long after 2nd one even if you went to repair.
But i think the system is flawed since people can just hide and there is no literal warning aura for killer
They made afk Crows extremely long to get now
You start getting crows after 2 minutes. And aside from chase (which apparently doesn't apply here), or gens (which takes several seconds of working on, but you claim wasn't being done), basically every other "bypass" requires completing a task.
So they could reset the 2 minute timer by opening a chest or cleansing a totem (which are limited and irreversible actions), but simply touching a hex doesn't reset the afk timer unless they break it completely. Finishing healing a health state does too, in case they actually picked up Jane at any point.
Yeah it seems that way. I played a match recently where survivors 3-genned themselves badly (I was not trying to force them into it) and didn’t touch gens for at least 5 minutes, By the time I finally found someone, they had accumulated only one crow. There’s no way people are getting crows after only 2 minutes.
The system went from the system being way too punishing to effectively useless. I really don’t understand how such a simple solution could be so complicated to implement.
So BHVR did the classic BHVR behavior (😏): they are unable to do a simple thing like find a middle term.
If something is a 10 they go all the way to 1 instead of 5.
Same thing with AFK Crows now. They were too effective and now are useless.
Also in theory they need to totally cleanse a totem to avoid the crows, but who guarantees that this is working as intended and you can indeed stop cleansing a totem multiple times to avoid the crows?
Thanks guys.😁
It's basically takes like 8 mins to get crows now I believe
If survivors are moving at all (even if it's moving back and forth in a small line), it takes 8.5 minutes before they get their first crow, and 12.5 minutes before they get their 3rd crow.
And opening a chest completely resets AFK points. So a survivor can hide for over 16 minutes, if they open 1 chest, and they won't get any crows the entire time.
I would honestly settle for the effectivness be at 8 even because all it needed was to not be that tight timing.
Like when i play my build with michael (its not tombstone)
The 2 survivor left always hide infinitly and dont do any gens
God damn it!
It's indeed useless now. One of the QoL additions to the game and it's already pointless in less than 6 months.
I had two people hiding during a 3gen recently and they just would not come out. One of them did eventually get crows. It took some time though. If I'm in the situation I usually just present myself to the killer. Dragging it on like that is excruciatingly boring. Who wants to just creep around for 10 minutes?
The previous rework was horrendous though. I never get crows and I got them several times. It was embarrassing showing up to a gen with them. The right option is somewhere in the middle of what they've done.
So Killer can trap survivors in corners again least for 12 mins this was a terrible nerfing crows that long