Which is the weakest base killer currently?

TheEdgeGamer

By base killer, I mean no add-ons or perks. In the comments describe what you would do to buff them?

YaiPa

Wraith without add ons is the worst for sure. Super slow even when cloaked, and super visible. At least Legion gets a free hit.

Ghoste

Clown is the weakest killer imo. The ones you listed at least have some form of tracking, mobility, or insta-down potential. Clown has none of those, and his power is lackluster even in chases where it is supposed to shine.

CL4P_TRAP_ER

Legion without perks would be like playing a regular killer with no abilities. Just make it so legion's double deep wound hit lowers the timer without his add-ons. Or give him no stun if he ends Frenzy himself. There's unfortunately not much they can do for him.

Gibberish

Freddy-style major rework.

Awakey

Clown.

@Gibberish said:

Freddy-style major rework.

I think @GrootDude has something to say about that.

GrootDude

Where is Clown?

GrootDude

@Gibberish said:

Freddy-style major rework.

Leatherface is my main and he doesn’t need a rework, his add ons need looked at though.

Dr_Trauts

Clown

BloodyBunny

Wraith hes bad at stealth without addons but it would be easy to. Buff him just make bone clapper part of his base kit and he would be decent

Raven014

Either Legion or Clown.

Trapper can actually do well at higher ranks, it just requires planning.

Leatherface can do well for similar reasons.

Wraith has some trouble, but can still get the drop on some people.

Clown has only chase potential, but no stalling potential, making him very weak.

Legion cannot down people with their power when every other killer can. This is ludicrous.

Mister_xD

he needs some major buffs - not a rework though.

i think his base power can be made very deadly, with the right buffs to it.

here my suggestions:

his chainsaw run is faster. he should start at 110% mms and end at 150% mms.

he should not be slowed down when canceling his chainsaw.

his movement speed wile holding the chainsaw should be 105%

maybe by default a faster charge time aswell.

and the option to cancel your chainsaw run with M1, which will work like when you missed.

im sure there could be more things added, but i cant think of any more right now...

GrootDude

@Mister_xD said:

he needs some major buffs - not a rework though.

i think his base power can be made very deadly, with the right buffs to it.

here my suggestions:

his chainsaw run is faster. he should start at 110% mms and end at 150% mms.

he should not be slowed down when canceling his chainsaw.

his movement speed wile holding the chainsaw should be 105%

maybe by default a faster charge time aswell.

and the option to cancel your chainsaw run with M1, which will work like when you missed.

im sure there could be more things added, but i cant think of any more right now...

I approve these changes, make me even more deadly. 😈

Mister_xD

@GrootDude said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/752955#Comment_752955

I approve these changes, make me even more deadly. 😈

i was actually thinking of @ ing you to hear your opinions on possible leatherface changes xD

but when i saw you were already in here, i deceded not to. dont wanna notification spam ya after all <3

GrootDude

@Mister_xD said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/752959#Comment_752959

i was actually thinking of @ ing you to hear your opinions on possible leatherface changes xD

but when i saw you were already in here, i deceded not to. dont wanna notification spam ya after all <3

@me anytime:)

I’m always willing to hear LF suggestions (even if I think he isn’t weak) :D

RIP_Legion

Clown base is abysmal, no exhaustion jugs makes him very weak.

NuclearBurrito

@NuclearBurrito said:

No not a full on rework. As fun as that sounds, it's not the best idea considering that he's always going to have a chainsaw.

These changes all go together:

• Change Bubba's MS to 92% up from 87.5% while charging his chainsaw. This is the same as Billy
• Bubba no longer gets stunned when hitting a non-survivor object, he just keeps going anyways. This will go through pallets but he can still be stunned if it's dropped directly on top of him.
• Movement speed during his rampage is increased to 125%
• Charge time is increased to 2.35 seconds (up from 2.1 seconds) for reference Billy's is 2.5 seconds. Basically beasts marks is now basekit.
• His rampage is changed to 3 seconds flat down from 3.26. This is a mostly side grade as it means if they jump through a window you aren't punished for as long. The distance he travels is the same as now with the speed increase

Addon changes:

• Chili/Award winning Chili - Moderately/Considerably (10/15%) increase the rampage duration. No longer effects object penalty because that's not a thing. (because these add-ons do nothing now)
• Carburettor Tuning Guide - Now ultra rare. Values increased to match new rarity: Decreases the charge time by 20%, Decreases the cool-down by 20%, Reduces the sound range by 40% (because it's the wrong rarity now and he needs ultra rares)
• Light chassis - Now ultra rare. Slightly increase your movement speed while charging your chainsaw (up to 95%) and you may now cancel the rampage at any time. (Object penalty no longer exists and he needs a 2nd ultra rare)
• Depth Gauge Rake - Now very rare. Decrease the rampage duration by 10%. Each time you hit a survivor with your chainsaw extend the duration by 1 second. (Same as Light chassis minus the ultra rare part)

@Yamaoka

So glad I finished my Killer fixes. Now I can pull out a thread for any weak Killer as needed <3

Creepingcam1070

Wraith is only good with addons.

at least Legion can still win with no addons.

ahandfulofrain

@TheEdgeGamer said:

By base killer, I mean no add-ons or perks. In the comments describe what you would do to buff them?

Hard to tell between him and Wraith

WTBacon

Poor Bubba is so add-on dependant.

cralo

You dare put Trapper and Legion but not Clown?

You poor fool...