Regarding Legion
With there dlc drop in December, more people have been disconnecting due to his drop, the reason why is they state they have "No Counter" but yet they cannot find a counter because they disconnect when its them
I am only posting this because I can fix the issues with Disconnecting, for a short while, or at least try to
The Killer Legion has No Recovery, meaning you MUST have full focus on the killers movements during the frenzy, especially if they have franks mix-tape.
Along with there release more and more people have been saying "Delete Legion", thought this will only make the solution worse than it already is, they can be reworked but it could either lead to the same situation we are currently in or we will have players crying OP around every corner.
But this is where it re-arises, Disconnecting shows "Hey, I cannot continue this match due to -insert reason-" but now people have turned it into "Hey, I cannot continue this match due to being unable to learn the -insert killer name- ability
Now the finale of this post, this killer is a distraction killer, they prevent generators from being touched for a short time, giving Legion the time to down and hook survivors if in the right hands, yes they can vault pallets and windows but you can still loop legion, its just not as easy as you think
So if you DC against a killer for a being incapable of countering the power, try to learn it in the survivor perspective
If you actually listened and are willing to do this task
If you don't care, then try to
Comments
I posted this on another thread but it belongs here as well.
Let me ask you a question: How would you feel if there was a survivor that can throw the same "super save" pallet over and over again everytime it's destroyed? There is no counter to that, right? Legion is the same.
You jump a window? He jumps as well.
You throw a pallet? He jumps over it too.
You 360 him? He has no cooldown.
You try to play ninja? He finds you anyway.
All of this was made so that he could stab one person and go after many others without having any problem, that's fine. But his power can down you, therefore It can be abused. It's not like Nurse because Nurse can be juked and mindgamed, unlike Legion.
In my oppinion he shouldnt be able to down people with his power and he should have 115% movement speed, that's all he needs to be balanced.
@tt_ivi_99 that would make them high tier, but you can still loop them like I said, its just really f*cking hard, legion can be juked and mindgamed, Juking legion in the frenzy is the definition of a pain in the ass, but if they miss once, believe me, they will become a helicopter of stabs, mindgaming Legion can still work and is, decently easy if you try to break the chase when they frenzy, stay away from a location with one exit and entrance, that is what I call "Legions home" and will always result in a down or deep wound
Dude it's nearly impossible to break the chase when they frenzy. If you do it's because they chose to go after someone else(which isn't the problem with them) or they really suck at watching where you go. If Legion decides they want you down there's barely anything you can do about it. Toss in FMT and it's just about impossible.
@Hoodedfengm1n
I've played this character since It was released and I also have played against him.
Nurse is the most powerful killer in the game but she still has a virtual counter, walls, you have to break line of sight. Legion doesnt have any virtual way to counter him.
What you said about tte "helicopter", that's just an awful player, just like weak Nurses missing a hit because of a 360, still no virtual counter play.
I dont know what you mean about those "Legions Home".
If they are loops: You want me to stay out of the only defense survivors have against a killer? If I run in straight line they'll get me too soon.
If they are not loops: Why would I go to a loop? They can just jump over anything they like.
Also, I dont see a problem with him being a high tier killer, I just want a freaking virtual counter to him.
@ClogWench They cannot see scratch marks, so depending on when they begin the frenzy, you can still break the chase
Breaking chase isn't as easy as breaking line of sight. If they see you and Frenz towards you, they're moving fast enough that you have barely any time after breaking LoS to hide and even if you do, a killer with any amount of skill will likely be able to find you pretty fast. It's just not a realistic counterplay.
They don't mainly dc because they lose. In fact, it's easy to do a 4 man escape. The issue is that even if you manage to 4 man escape, it doesn't make fun. Versing Legion is unfun, the chase is unfun, stealthing is unfun and holding M1 Genrushing is unfun.
mclean confirmed on his own stream that legion will get changes after the new DLC dropped. they will even stop working on freddy (poor guy) to solve the problem with legion and the disconnects he causes.
Idk if you know this but nurses on legion is damn near impossible without an aura counter perk even if you manage to juke them, Bc of deep wound you can’t go far.
So those that don’t need nurses are good legions, Bc they’re going to find you while mending anyways, and those who lose the chases after frenzy have it for that exactly.
So not only are you forced as a survivor to no real mind game play due to frenzy and them being on your ass, but even if you manage to get out of sight they have nurses to fix that due to deep wound.
You cant go far without possibly giving away your position, and you can’t wait for them to leave to mend Bc they’re searching the area.
rank 20-5 you might can get away with that kind of stuff but red ranks most definetly not. To say otherwise is selling killers with skill short.
You should go up against real legion mains with skill . It’s f’d. I know Bc I don’t dc, and see why so many do.
So you wanted a non dc opinion here it is.
The only real counter is everyone breaking up and doing gens to gen rush.
Bc as far as chases go against skilled legions GG
Mending deep wounds isn't seen by Nurses Calling
No? You’re sure?
Indeed. Mending is not considered healing.
Ignore that I've quoted the wrong comment, I'm on mobile and it literally will not let me delete this and has it saved as a draft.
And no, it's not shown by Nurses. Neither is Snap Out of It or Wake Up anymore. Only standard healing is shown. Nurses is actually a huge waste on Legion if people just arent healing.
Hey I just realized something. Can't you counter Killer Instinct's survivor reveal with Empathy? If you see someone get deep wounds in the HUD quickly spin for the aura and run the other way for a few moments.
Nah Killers Instinct doesn't reveal your aura, it has like a pulsing red circle around you that just follows you
that’s a relief, but still can’t go anywhere without possibly giving away your position from losing them during frenzy exhaust, and still have to mend so. You really just have to count on them messing up hard and scurrying off.
I thought it was nurses Bc I see it on a lot of them. My mistake 😅
Bloodhound maybe? I see a lot of that one too on their builds.
good to know though. Thanks guys!
@ClogWench You failed to understand my point. If you see someone get deep wounded Empathy show you how close they are to you. (Provided they are healthy before the frenzy, which they should be since most Legions run Thanatophobia) This gives you the warning of whether to run or not. You'll never be seen by KI if you avoid the TR to begin with.
I see what you mean now. Still wouldn't say that counters it. Unless theres someone between you and the person hit, the killer doesn't necessarily have reason to go in your direction. Plus half the problem with Legion is people NOT using KI and just tunnelling one person without them having any means of escape.
It’s okay! Thank you I’m glad that’s cleared up for me :) you’ve been helpful.